Ah look who it is :D

[Paris Hilton]

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/for...owtopic=110099

Second poster :

[Woz]

Good to see we're not the only ones who've gotta deal with him.

[Peuty]

Why can;t he just leave us all alone.

Goes in with guns blazing in a thread about a fatal car accident and not once offers his condolences.

I can't handle it.

[Falcon Coupe]

I think he's an autobot, an annoying one.

[Gammaboy]

Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I think he's an autobot, an annoying one.

Which one? Bumblebee?

I liked the Decepticons better....

[fairmont1998]

Beware the triangle

[seano14]

i think whoever he is, he must have seen a shipment of 594,000 hazard warning triangles and purchased the lot for $100,000. he is now thinking of desperate ways to flog them off

No? oh well, was worth a try lol

[Blue Oval Mopar Man]

I tend to agree that the old triangel angle is a bit out of whack! Not only does he target everyone about the hidden special supernatural powers of said humble safety device, he also seems to think that he is a leading legal advisor with a god given right to bombard us with legalities and law speak at the drop of a hat!!!

While I do see he is trying to be helpfull , I tend to think he could tone it down just a little bit ! :

[BA_Turbs]

Is the triangle thing serious?

The problem with typing/writing/texting is that it does not convey tone, therefore I can't tell if its sarcastic or not. I'm guessing from the comments above he's 100% serious about the dangers of owning a non-UN spec safety triangle?

Am I as dangerous as Al Queda and the Talban combined because I don't own one? Will safety triangles prevent tinea? How long does it take a safety triangle (UN spec), on medium heat, to cook a 800 gram lamb roast?

In case it hasn't come across this time, I am being sarcastic. :voldar02:

[biomechanic]

That man has the charisma of a pickle.

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by biomechanic

That man has the charisma of a pickle.

Thats a bit out of line!...........a pickle is far more useful than given credit for. Its a vegetable thats crunchy and tasty as well as being so juicy. SO realy its a food and drink in one (as Ray Romano once said)

[HTCURRY]

hehe...this thread is a bit harsh. I know lots of ppl arent too happy with him, and im not to keen on his "triangle campaign", BUT you do have to admit, he is serious about the cause. I guess that says something for determination...

[Thunder]

I have no problems with the guy, nor have any issues with him, and i absolutley think his effort into road safety is tops!............i just love the humor around this forum with the tri-angle.

[Keepleft]

[QUOTE=BA_Turbs]Is the triangle thing serious?

Greetings: As an item of road safety advocacy, yes, absolutely.


The problem with typing/writing/texting is that it does not convey tone, therefore I can't tell if its sarcastic or not.

My signature advocates that you carry a SINGLE warning triangle in your vehicles boot area, but is topically 'branded'. Here, at the Ford forums, I advocate the genuine Ford item, this I think you will agree is appropriate. Elsewhere on other motoring (and general) forums, I advocate in my signatures other 'generic' brands complying with UN/ECE 27R, - IF that motor-brand does not carry the UN/ECE item. Example GM/H AUS.

Now, to clarify a little further about myself since this has been raised: I am a motorist's advocate in NSW, RTA have been calling me this since around 1983. Mostly I deal with this state - in for example, its efforts at reducing the impacts of certain extremist Victorian like 'road safety measures'.

I was raised in a solid legal family (the old man was a National Court Judge and QC), have worked in managerial and the office construction business, communications, administration, stockbroking, and as a barristers clerk in my early days, advertising, ADF advocacy and so on. Tend not to live one job for life, I guess many here do not either?

Yes, I am very political (AAFI Dobell 1996) as most anything to do with roads and transport invariably is. I will work with most any political side to achieve a positive outcome that benefits us as roads users' collectively, if this means a fight with the likes of Scruby, so be it, but sometimes we might reach common value.

On the quite, I fight for money (funding) for specific road projects, deal with certain road design guidelines in advocacy for their betterment (example median barrier and associated parapet), write driver manual texts for such ranging from New York State, AUS, NZ, middle east, pacific and asia, often relating to the use of vehicle lighting in regards to applicable legal standards, crash scenes and the like where I have expertise. A mini AA if you like, that said I will target this lot if needed. You might recall NRMA's push for additional fixed speed cameras on the F3 by then CEO Carter. I took personal offence at this proposal as I had worked closely with the chap who had the original Ourimbah camera fixed. Campaign succesful, he is gone and this was a good outcome for all.

I am in the end a driver, very Germanic at heart in my road safety leanings, teachings, experience - and one who accepts such German 'speed allowances' as given, - and slowly work for that adoption with *all* necessary measures being undertaken.

Normally, I keep a very low profile professionally and do things on the quite. I attend regulation reviews, - with much joy road crashes that I've often come across (too many kilometres per year-'exposure'), attend the sick and dying, and to put it simply: do every thing I possibly can in ways you will never know or hear about to improve our lot on the roads, I can tell you there are MANY people employed in agencies who would like to be much, much tougher in nasty little ways. My personal communications bills run into the hundreds per month, have done for years. Bit by bit things change for the better, and positive change takes time as you wean agency employees around, undoing damage that academia often implant in their training.

In dealing with government departments I keep such information private and confidential. In dealing on this front, I use the services of individuals with expertise in their chosen fields as needed to achieve a desirable outcome. You might recall the M7 thread, or the front fog light thread. Such are posted deliberately by me to gain feedback that I can use as 'directive' in targetted advocacy. I do mention this forum and its feedback to government employees, should a subject matter be raised.

Forums and the opinions expressed here, are simply not acknowledged otherwise. REM, you are voters.


I'm guessing from the comments above he's 100% serious about the dangers of owning a non-UN spec safety triangle?
Yes, AS I advocate that you break you bank balance and destroy your mortgage and marriage by buying the Ford warning triangle at its $58 retail (this price needs to come down-and will) price, I can or should, only advocate such IF I can put demonstrable faith in the STANDARD to which it is built. It is just a signature, not an attack on the family, your pet dog or the Commonwealth Treasury.

By experience over the last 40 years, places like Germany, France and Italy, and by my own emergency scene experience, have seen the ongoing development/improvement of the inital 'EEC' warning triangle (and Germany's old K standard), these have now improved in all engineering and photometric respects to the current, to take into account their use on the high-speed environments of Europe, speeds which would see most Aussies break down and cry should and when they experience them first hand:-)

NOW, on the other side, non-standard, OR Australian Standard 3790 items - are simply in all parameter respects, demonstrably 'second best' to that which I suggest. I cannot and should not and will not advocate second best - as seriously, doing so, puts your life and on-road property at risk. The Ford item is made in Finland by Hella. A generic Hella Australia part number is '2901' for this!

The Mitsubishi Australia triangle ($20 retail), is UN/ECE standard and is also made in Finland. Both these two domestic companies have tried the Australian Standard units, have tried lesser units like LED types, and have decided that the UN item really is the safest item to use having regard 'longevity'. It is 'accepted' under the AS in any case.

I DO expect the AS3790 to eventually only accept the United Nations/Euro standard, this is Commonwealth desire. Eventually we *will* mandate one per passenger car, on a new market basis initially.

You need to be able to rely on the 'quality' of the item to do its job. In the past, I've had to place quite frankly 'junk' - to do an urgent job, only to have the stupid thing blow out of alignment or over - putting the scene at danger. I've had sand-filled U.S sourced Australian Standard 3790 items blow out of alignment then needing bricks to weigh em down! Frankly, the UN/Euro item has the best performing night reflectors, an excellent daytime inner triangle, the Ford items 'spidery' legs resist wind buffetting.

THIS does NOT stop you using other means as well to alert aproaching traffic, but the advocacy is a 'minimum standard' that you should have at hand in your vehicle. The idea is to never ever have to use it, but we know lifes not quite like that.

Those in government, do not accept it is appropriate to have folk running back in heavy rain or fog, or on clear roads after a crash - in dangerous attempts at slowing aproaching traffic down. ALL of us ARE legally liable for making crash scenes safe where we are mobile to do so.

The warning triangle is to be used with any functioning hazard warning lights, and supplements them, but can do the job alone should they be knocked out. See my Signature weblink.

This item I advocate in my signature in motoring forums is just one very small, but important part, to be done before this nation ever gets higher speed limits, 'changes' are 'collective for a positive outcome', and it does not end there, here, I work elsewhere.

You will see in my signature link, a reference to a safety 'vest' or shirt, indeed this year sees Germany, Italy, France now mandating that such *must* be worn at the road side. Yes, even the likes of Tori of group would then be obliged to throw one on. Visibility is important, in my texts I've not 'mandated' such, but do suggest it.

My signature is NOT to offend ANYONE, but should only be accepted as advocacy. I don't care if folk can't tolerate me (and I've not played hard ball here ever), but please don't let that blind your judgement of the advocated item because of me. Try it out, really do so.

Finally, it is my position that IF I need information in relation to any of the vehicles I drive, including the Ford, that I will do so here. It IS a two-way street here. I spend much more time reading posts, than making them, be well assured.

* The driver manuals teach 'placement' etc, that they 'actually exist'.
* The standard of the equipment, will be the worlds best.
I just hope you never get to use the thing really. (AND I've not started on the first aid kit, extinguisher advocacy-later -2012).

[MYVYSS]

OMG you type to much.....You lost me at GREETINGS

[Keepleft]

[QUOTE=MYVYSS]OMG you type to much.....You lost me at GREETINGS
Make an effort, I've broken it up by paragraph to help 'explain':-)

[paulvdb]

[QUOTE=Keepleft]

Originally Posted by MYVYSS

OMG you type to much.....You lost me at GREETINGS
Make an effort, I've broken it up by paragraph to help 'explain':-)

Yes - but to be friendly you are rather verbose. Perhaps that's your legal background in which you have no real problems writing an essay just to say yes or no.

I think we can all see your substantial interest in good quality safety triangles, but you MUST surely agree that safety triangles are rather secondary to Aussies learning how to drive properly - and therefore the passion that you put into safety triangles would be better directed into highlighting consistent government idiocy in supporting PC ideas rather than genuine road safety.

[Sourbastard]

heres my contribution