Bracks to resign - Page 4

Blue Oval Mopar Man · 28-07-2007, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Watergate !

Ahhhhhhh...... NO ! you need water to have a watergate !

Seems we have just a "Gate" !

joolz · 28-07-2007, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ea_silver_ghia

I have never been done by a speed camera, but it's the principle why I hate the things. For someone to get a fine of a few hundred dollars for doing 103 in a 100 zone is very rough, particularly with car speedometers having a 10% margin of error. The speed cameras have also been found to have inaccuracies, the biggest example of this being a woman who proved her Datsun couldn't go anywhere near the speed she was supposedly caught doing. They aren't reliable at all, and it's all about revenue.

I can't say I'm going to miss Bracks. When he was voted in over Kennett, I thought it would be good for the state because Kennett wasn't great either. According to Kennett, the state of Victoria ended at the Melbourne suburbs. While new buildings were popping up all over Melbourne, the country was missing out completely. Coming from the country, I know this first hand. Roads were constantly getting patched up, but were rarely resurfaced. There were patchup jobs on top of patchup jobs. While Bracks has been a little bit better for the country, he still didn't do enough for it. The fact is, I'd like to see the day when a politician comes into power with the general public's welfare being his number 1 priority. As it is now, the number 1 priority is greed.

Ok so for those that didnt like Kennet, I was also from the bush (Western Vic) If Melbourne wasnt on the map for overseas investors do you think they would see Horsham or even Bendigo!! Now seeing what Kennet inherited and what Bracks inherited we all know who had the most money to throw around with a booming housing market, maybe thats why Bracks increased the stamp duty and taxes on housing!! Im definatley not sad to see him and his maybe boyfriend follow him but im really worried whats to replace them. A former failed in debt labour govenments treasurer Mr Brumby, possibly deputy premier a minister that cant get a train to run on time and finally a possible treasurer that cant keep private police files private. Hey but dont worry " Ill LOOK INTO IT"!!!!!

Blue Oval Mopar Man · 28-07-2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by EAadam

Lets hope it comes in three's. Bracks, Thwaites and drumroll please............................... Its time to go, COWARD. oops i meant HOWARD.

Here you sit behind a computer screen calling people names and you think he is the coward !

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rodderz · 28-07-2007, 12:36 AM

I'm not into politics but it doesn't seem a characteristic of a polly to quit, let alone 2 on the same day

As for the water issue this should of been addressed 20 years ago, all these new housing estates are popping up with population booms and we are still relying on water catchments that were designed for us 50 or so years ago

Nostalgia · 28-07-2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Oval Mopar Man

Here you sit behind a computer screen calling people names and you think he is the coward !

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With good reason too. I aint gonna get into a fight over this. Been there done that on e-series.

robjg33 · 28-07-2007, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Actually when he beat Kennett they didnt...
Its history now but its a commonly held belief that most people only voted for bracks to scare Kennett, not actually oust him.. no one actually wanted bracks in, they just wanted to scare Kennett into going a bit easier....
The problem was too many people actually voted for him but for the wrong reasons...

yes that is why he was elected in 2002 with the highest majority ever :togo:
oh and 2006 3 highest

joolz · 28-07-2007, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by robjg33

yes that is why he was elected in 2002 with the highest majority ever :togo:
oh and 2006 3 highest

Yes Bracks was the "accidental Premier" he wasnt meant to win. But after he won Kennet bowed out of poiltics so really who would vote for Doyle and Ted when you had a Premier throwing cash around and spending beyond OUR means. Thats why we are back in DEBT with so many BROKEN promises.

Nostalgia · 28-07-2007, 01:04 AM

Bracks has alot to answer for. His offsider Theo Theonopaulos should resign too. He knows why.

MethodX · 28-07-2007, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kenaz

Bring back Jeff!

No he is too depressed
Please not jeff !!!

ED Classic · 28-07-2007, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by robjg33

yes that is why he was elected in 2002 with the highest majority ever :togo:
oh and 2006 3 highest

No when he beat Kennet it was an accident as 4 V said. It was the 3 independents that nailed Kennetts coffin which is how close that could have been. See what happened to Russell Savage last election after he sided with Bracks then was with Bracks in stcking the Toxic dump in the food capital of Vic :togo: Atleast during Kennetts time Kennett would decide what needed closing to make a better and richer state (or should I say fix the mess) and pay out reduntant employees, but with Bracksy companies just decide to leave Victoria without incentive, Heinz, Arnotts, Wool Mill, Blunstone, etc

Lumpen Proletariat · 28-07-2007, 01:36 AM

Interesting to see if this has been prompted by the 'Or Else' veiled threat made by the Fed's a few days ago against Vic labor for backing out of the Murray Water Scheme ?

Lumpy

schmidty · 28-07-2007, 03:20 AM

Can we have Jeff back?

We need another mover and shaker who gets in and makes things happen instead of just talking about how good they are and what they are planning.

Blue Oval Mopar Man · 28-07-2007, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by EAadam

With good reason too. I aint gonna get into a fight over this. Been there done that on e-series.

Ohhhh, you have a good reason, I guess that makes it ok then !

**DJM83** · 28-07-2007, 09:41 AM

John Brumby gone aswell

XCSEDAN · 28-07-2007, 11:18 AM

THIS IS THE BEST NEWS I'VE HEARD SINCE HE WENT INTO PARLIMENT!!!!
WICKEEEED

Full Spectrum · 28-07-2007, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SpoolMan

So the people who used the Tulla freeway for the last 25 years for free, were happy to start paying a toll...

The whole of Australia is having water problems blame Brack's for that too and speed camera's gee he has left a very bad legacy..

We always blame the last government for the present day mistakes this is politics.

Politics and religion you can debate this for 1000 years its always a no win situation..

Since them tolls we have not used the tulla, We used to be able to get on it and drive can't remember the street but it was the one you could drive straight to Ford dealers and to the children's hospital in min, Now to miss the toll you need to get off at bell street.. And my brother was involved in a accident in January and we had to get there from his place in hillside, We had 2 options make the trip the long way down ballarat road, Or make a left next to his house and hit the tulla knowing it has tolls but we will have him there faster then the ambulance would take to get him. So after i tried to find out as i have never used tolls before how do i go about paying them etc, Explained my situation to them, They got nasty with me for using it without paying or purchasing a daily pass, I got mad as i explained the situation to them and said for F sake i was in a emergency it's not like i can stop and say hang on i need a e-tag before i run you to emergency

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And water should have been dealt with back as far as 97, It was then the weather was starting to really change to dry, I remember the early 90's football was wet 70% of the time, Come 97 onwards it was so rare to have rain, If they had the eyes on back then or before we might be in a better position now.

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Originally Posted by charliewool

Mark, Yes it IS a no-win arguement!.... Freeways, tollways, speed-cameras, hoon laws, smoking bans, survailance in every public used area (1984 cum true)
Damn sure either party would be pretty similar! (revenue IS revenue)

However, The water problem is an entirely different issue!... Bracks & Thwaites have had 3 years MINIMUM with being continually briefed, informed, advised., coerced, prompted.. almost BEGGED by experts in water sustainability that the water crisis was just THAT! .. A CRISIS! Head in the sand Bracks , Thwaites, Skinner of Melbourne Water... the lot of em are to blame for NOT heeding the warnings & predictions... Mark my words (no pun intended mate)... Water has been this pairs downfall....

Speed cameras with new technology will always become more frequent and more advanced to the point we don't see them,
We have had tolls for years.
Hoon laws is great if removing your car from under you because you are a tool isn't great then someone will die if they get to confidant, I can think of many cars right now in my area that need to be removed from many drivers.
I love the smoking ban i enjoy my meal without the side order of passive smoking

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Surveillance is everywhere, When we get like the U.S then worry, But with people today and what they get away with surveillance might be the key into getting them, If you really want total privacy it's in the house because step outside and always someone is watching you.

But on water maybe they had something they thought was better? Not for one part but the whole?.

robjg33 · 28-07-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by joolz

Yes Bracks was the "accidental Premier" he wasnt meant to win. But after he won Kennet bowed out of poiltics so really who would vote for Doyle and Ted when you had a Premier throwing cash around and spending beyond OUR means. Thats why we are back in DEBT with so many BROKEN promises.

JGK bowed some 6 months later then came Napthine

id love to know where you get your info from Premier throwing cash around and spending beyond OUR means im sure most people are unhappy to have schools gettingfixed hospitals fixed more police stations price equalisation to country areas on electricity roads being built rail lines reopened the list goes on

how do you over spend and keep a budget surplus for 8 years
oh thats howards gift isnt it
the same howard how cut $350 milion out of the health care agreement
we keep on about the toll road well lets see at the time the money markets were down
drought and bushfires were costing $2 million a day and just for good measure
your mate Jeff sold off the public transport system one of the operaters said here take the keys back and walked away
so what should they have done just said badluck and cripple Melbourne and left some 1200 out of work
i can tell you the choice was made easier when businesses were asked toll it or put it off untill 2015 they were saying we arnt happy but just build it weve been waiting for 30 years

robjg33 · 28-07-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EAadam

Mate, i totally agree with everything you said. Bloody SPOT ON.

wasnt it howard who said all we can do is pray for rain?

T_Terror · 28-07-2007, 06:36 PM

What a great day for Victoria!

This was completely unexpected, but very welcome!

Hopefully this throws Labor out for the next election so we can finally get rid of them.

flappist · 28-07-2007, 06:53 PM

When you are a true believer your leader can do no wrong and the opposition can do no right. You take all comments against your true messiah personally because an attack against (insert bastard here) is an attack against truth justice and all that is warm and fluffy and also an attack against YOU.

You have as much chance of convincing a labor stooge that Bracks was a goose or a Liberal stooge that Howard is a goose as you have of convincing a holden troll that fords are better or a V8 zealot that T6s are better.

I, personally, am not convinced that this happened for "family" or "water" reasons. I suspect that there is something else that has triggered it.

Time will tell. We had the Fitzgerald enquiry after Joh resigned, I wonder what the future holds...........

Full Spectrum · 28-07-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

When you are a true believer your leader can do no wrong and the opposition can do no right. You take all comments against your true messiah personally because an attack against (insert bastard here) is an attack against truth justice and all that is warm and fluffy and also an attack against YOU.

You have as much chance of convincing a labor stooge that Bracks was a goose or a Liberal stooge that Howard is a goose as you have of convincing a holden troll that fords are better or a V8 zealot that T6s are better.

I, personally, am not convinced that this happened for "family" or "water" reasons. I suspect that there is something else that has triggered it.

Time will tell. We had the Fitzgerald enquiry after Joh resigned, I wonder what the future holds...........

Still the blind liberal i see

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