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BA Ford Falcon 14-03-2015 12:00 PM

Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
Hey guys, looking at buying a project car very soon, really wanting a Barra probably a Barra 195 as i can get one for cheap of a mate, how would i go with ECU / Wiring? putting engine in is easy part but once i put it in it will have custom exhaust etc. what will happen to the ECU will it start? will it run on limp mode? ive only ever engine converted old v8's that dont have ECU nor a big wiring loom. hoping i can put it in a start the thing but i highly doubt it.

Cheers :D

Raptor 14-03-2015 02:38 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
Have a read of this, the guy is putting a turbo Barra into a 66 Mustang;

http://www.boostedford.com/#!car-wiring/c14z4



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Sioso 14-03-2015 03:10 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
I hope you're putting it in a mk1 Escort...............

Xauterus 14-03-2015 05:09 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11382891

2011G6E 14-03-2015 10:04 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor (Post 5350524)
Have a read of this, the guy is putting a turbo Barra into a 66 Mustang;

http://www.boostedford.com/#!car-wiring/c14z4



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Now that's a project I could really get into...after all, every man and his dog does the easy thing and just chucks a V8 in them. Nice to see something different for a change.

Stefan 15-03-2015 07:54 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
I've mentioned it a few times and struggle to understand why a 6T is not being slotted into loads of XYs or any other x series falcon.

If kits where available I'd do one tomorrow...unfortunately my pockets are not deep enough to allow me to do the first...

AussieCJ7 15-03-2015 08:58 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
A Barra XR6T into a XM or XP coupe has been high on my list for a while but finding a decent coupe at reasonable $$$ is almost a dream now

XP6 16-03-2015 11:14 AM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
They dont fit in our earlybirds easily, on paper it sounds good... grab yourself a tape measure and you'll soon find out!
The engine will physically fit in the bay but will put the weight way too far forward, shocky towers and bracing will need to disappear... bonnet will have clearance issues.
To make it fit the motor will need to be set back into the firewall a good 100mm and still lose the towers and bracing, a IFS to get rid of the drag link... hello IVC rego!

Not saying it cant be done it can, but getting it passed for street use will be a PITA

Vesper Martini 16-03-2015 01:03 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
Its a pretty big engine Physically, just look at the space taken up in that Mustang or even the XE falcon.
I guess it would depend on where it ends up

Raptor 16-03-2015 03:37 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bevsta007 (Post 5351712)
Its a pretty big engine Physically...

YUP!

See Barra vs Windsor below :lol

https://www.fordforums.com.au/photos..._WindsorV8.jpg

Franco Cozzo 16-03-2015 03:57 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
How tall roughly is the Barra?

malazn mafia 16-03-2015 09:39 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptor (Post 5351812)
YUP!

See Barra vs Windsor below :lol

image

Geez the Barra looks like a train engine and the Windsor looks like a 4cyl next to it..

XP6 16-03-2015 09:59 PM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Damo (Post 5351824)
How tall roughly is the Barra?

About 850ish cant remember exactly was long time ago, the rear of the motor is fine for height(minus the earlybird strut tower braces)its the front... Ford definitely shoe horned these puppys under the FG bonnet!

Burningrubber92 21-03-2025 05:47 AM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
So anyone able to give me a decent description of what wirings I have to splice in order to splice ba loom into EF gli falcon. Have looked over the diagrams of both EF and BA, to which I get lost and uncertain on what wires to go where if that makes sense

gmw67 21-03-2025 07:28 AM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Burningrubber92 (Post 6955828)
So anyone able to give me a decent description of what wirings I have to splice in order to splice ba loom into EF gli falcon. Have looked over the diagrams of both EF and BA, to which I get lost and uncertain on what wires to go where if that makes sense

If you are on facebook there are several Barra conversion pages and loom makers

EBSXR6 21-03-2025 07:55 AM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
Many years ago a mate put an Intech into an XY.
Changed the steering column and got the smart lock working.
Hooked it up to a close ratio Toploader.
One of the big headaches was the Intake manfold which had to be cut and welded.

Burningrubber92 21-03-2025 08:27 AM

Re: Engine Conversion (Barra into Project Car)
 
True that and have had no luck as no one wants to give me any advice on the looms as I eventually want to start making them for people but am stuck between an EF wiring color coded index from pin out 1 to 103 and a ba wiring color coded index from a BA 1 to however many.

The bit I’m struggling with is yeah I’ve matched up the injector wires from EF to BA

Example

Ef injector 1 pin out 75 (tan)

To splice to

BA injector 1 pin out A14 (brown)


EF injector 2 pin out 101 (White)

To splice to

BA injector 2 pin out A07 (White).


Am I doing it correctly or


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