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Mot Adv-NSW
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Bernd Felsche at 'aus.cars' newgroup has issued these links for perusal. This is a highway so is not to full autobahn standard. Still, beats some of our best:-)
Here's a page of pictures showing a new highway a little before it opened to the public in Germany. It's a federal highway being used as an Autobahn placebo so it's designed to carry a lot of traffic. http://www.b6n-online.de/0_11_BA72_ende.htm Width-wise, it's the same cross-section as a narrow Autobahn but it doesn't have full-length barriers at the edge. Construction being finished includes the median barrier. Overpasses, etc are also shown as well as sweeping bends, etc. A novel technique used in surfacing is "compact asphalt" where a hot binding layer is put down immediately before the bitumen. This is supposed to dramatically reduce surface cracking due to thermal expansion/contraction and slows the development of wheel ruts. It also halves the amount of bitumen that's needed for the top surface. This is a set of piccies from an opening of a new section of that highway: http://www.b6n-online.de/3_1_2fest06_nach.htm And another section: http://www.b6n-online.de/freigabe_81.htm Note the crappy Police cars!
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I may be wrong but isn't called hotmix here!
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Mot Adv-NSW
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Domestically, hotmix is used as a generic name but will have technical differences, both in substance and mix.
I will say however, and mildly OT, beware of 'stone mastic asphalt' in relation to adhesion. Often used on our country roads, yet owing safety issues identified OS is speed limited to 50km/h in places like Ireland. This form of construction is suspect and the Europeans are removing it owing an increase in crashes on the type of surface. Our state GovCo's are aware of the problem, some inventories are been undertaken as to where it has been used . . . This is not NZ source chip-seal as used here. |
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Crappy police cars? Not a Merc fan are you?
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4 lane dual carriage way should be the absolute minimum for the vast majority of the Bruce Highway.
I'm not a fan of the big barriers between the different directions of the road (a shallow ditch with small trees / shrubs would be ideal), but it is better than a white line. While I'm working on my wish-list, I'll add to it a realistic speed limit Maybe all those speeding fines will eventually contribute to superior roads to stop people dying. Panda
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The German autobahns (freeways) have the lowest fatality rate of any roads in Germany, although most rural portions have only an 130-km/h (81-mph) advisory speed limit. No surprise that in the U.S. also, freeways are the fastest, safest, and most fuel-efficient of all highways!
Pity Australia can't have one. We'd have "safe" drivers doing 60km/h on it, shouting out of their Toyota Crown, "Slow down you whippersnaps", but I wouldn't hear them as I'd already be 500m ahead. Pity really. |
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We simply should NOT be able to achieve a crossover crash on a median divided road. Where one eventuates as a result of the road having no barrier in the median, such is actionable negligence in my view. (With many variables naturally enough). Quote:
A jurisdiction COULD adopt speed derestriction (//) on a per length of road basis on remote asphalt two-lane highways with good side view without impacting overall network safety. The key national roads do need attention though before such a move.
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Its a nice road, perhaps they could lay some of that at Calder Park for there return road.
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Very interesting. Good to see the types of materials they use can produce very significant engineering results interms of life cycle for the surfaces.
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If memory is good I think Qld just removed some stone mastic from around Federal...to many prangs especially in the wet.
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Nice but there are a lot of competing priorities - health, education. Spare a thought for the railways who are mostly operating on 19th century infrastructure. On the other hand if they got rid of one level of government in this most overgoverned country in the world there'd be money left over from all those redundant public servants and pollies to pay for these roads. Personally I'm not so troubled by the roads themselves, or even the cars, as the declining driver standards I've noticed over 35 years on the roads. As Uranium Death says, even with roads like this there are too many drivers who wouldn't know how to use them. Driver education first.....
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Sure, but in those days many jurisdictions had no absolute speed limit out of towns, so folk generally tended to behave better to one another.
Improved roads and vehicles have seen the road-toll drop worldwide over the period since.
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i like how they open the road with drag racing parties! Wouldnt happen here in Braxville.
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Mot Adv-NSW
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Still to find a cheese-cutted motorcyclist, you know - a head here, a sliced hand, arm, leg there, a boot over in the water catchment,- that sort of thing, now in my ghoulish efforts to do so find, I chased in GB, now - the UK Highways Agency parapet people tell me that in over 32 years of use they are yet to see an incidence of this. I have seen a motorcyclist killed-plonked next to such a barrier, but suspect first being under the wheel of the B-Double will have done him in first?? M/C's represent 2.3 of total registrations in my state, but lets be generous and lie and say they represent 8%, now that would just about give m/c's arout 18% of all road travel at a given time. Still a minority road user, and really - we simply must engineer for the majority road vehicle user, - cars et al; who often you know take great delight when unexpectedly crossing bushy medians to only then loom out in front of motorcyclists and cars riding/driving in the other direction whilst wearing big - wide grins, they have a choice; 'avoid' the car with grinning driver or hit it. When they hit, often other immediate and following traffic then hits that scene, further adding to the joyous event. NB - Paramedic brother is a BMW 1000 daily rider - I have inviting him to drive into the wire-rope section I had advocated installed following a crossover back in 1997 at Ourimbah on the NSW F3 after threatening action following a fatal. He refuses my invitaton to slide into it, despite my assurances that all will be well, stuffed if I know why?? Make no mistake 'medians' will get the stuff, or jersey or W-beam, the sides of the roads I am not so concerned; 'lengths' of sides at critical points - yes sure, but not full-length, as I advocate for mongrel medians. Motocyclists who cannot sleep at night owing nighmares of wire-rope barrier and bad dairy products best not drive in Europe, particularly Sweden, bad cheese, bad, bad, bad cheese.
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ORDER FORD AUSTRALIA PART NO: AM6U7J19G329AA. This is a European-UN/AS3790B Spec safety-warning triangle used to give advanced warning to approaching traffic of a vehicle breakdown, or crash scene (to prevent secondary). Stow in the boot area. See your Ford dealer for this $35.95 safety item & when you buy a new Ford, please insist on it! See Page 83, part 4.4.1 http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...eSafePart4.pdf Last edited by Keepleft; 27-09-2006 at 02:44 AM. |
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