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Old 09-08-2022, 09:22 AM   #1
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planning a road trip with my Learner daughter from Vic into NSW. Can someone please confirm that the Vic permit conditions stay with her? ie that she can drive at the posted limit on the freeway, not the NSW restricted speeds? that's hot to interpret this statement, right?

https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boati...icence-holders

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When driving in NSW, you must stay below the speed limit shown on road signs and the speed limit that applies to your licence at home.
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planning a road trip with my Learner daughter from Vic into NSW. Can someone please confirm that the Vic permit conditions stay with her? ie that she can drive at the posted limit on the freeway, not the NSW restricted speeds? that's hot to interpret this statement, right?

https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boati...icence-holders



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Yep, Vic license holders can drive at their speed limits.
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You sure?
In SA you dont need to carry your licence on you whilst driving, in NSW you do.
I got pinged for it in NSW and when I explained the difference in rules I got told when Im in NSW, NSW rules apply.
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I think that's the case generally, but the web site mentions speed specifically as I quoted above, which is why I wanted to check. I think a phone call may be in order
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In SA you dont need to carry your licence on you whilst driving, in NSW you do.
I got pinged for it in NSW and when I explained the difference in rules I got told when Im in NSW, NSW rules apply.
Positive. Red P platers with a NSW License must not go above 90kmh. If you have an interstate license you can drive at that states P plate limits in NSW.

If you don't carry your (interstate) license with you how do they know that you actually have a license................. not to mention if you crash there's no ID so where do they send the body?
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Re the NSW rules for visiting L platers :
When driving in NSW, you must stay below the speed limit shown on road signs and the speed limit that applies to your licence at home.

Thats all you need to know I suspect.
By the way I hardly have my wallet/license with me in the car nowadays, on the mobile.
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Re the NSW rules for visiting L platers :
When driving in NSW, you must stay below the speed limit shown on road signs and the speed limit that applies to your licence at home.

Thats all you need to know I suspect.
By the way I hardly have my wallet/license with me in the car nowadays, on the mobile.
I always have my ID on me, mostly because my cute baby face and being carded when I try buy beer.

Then VicRoads took it off me, so now the only form of ID I have is my expired passport

ALWAYS have ID on you, unless you're going out to purposely do something wrong then leave it and your phone(s) at home
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planning a road trip with my Learner daughter from Vic into NSW. Can someone please confirm that the Vic permit conditions stay with her? ie that she can drive at the posted limit on the freeway, not the NSW restricted speeds? that's hot to interpret this statement, right?

https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boati...icence-holders



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she has to abide by the laws of the State in which she is driving - full stop
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Positive. Red P platers with a NSW License must not go above 90kmh. If you have an interstate license you can drive at that states P plate limits in NSW.

If you don't carry your (interstate) license with you how do they know that you actually have a license................. not to mention if you crash there's no ID so where do they send the body?
In SA you have 24hrs to present to a Police station with it.
Where would they send a passengers body if they we're killed in an accident too or do passengers have to carry ID if in a car in NSW in case of an accident?
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she has to abide by the laws of the State in which she is driving - full stop
So if shes in a 110 zone, holding a vic license restricted to 100 in NSW where its 90 for L platers its 90?
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she has to abide by the laws of the State in which she is driving - full stop
Not quite. If a red P plater with a Vic license drives in NSW they can drive at 110kmh on a Freeway whereas a NSW P Plater must only do 90kmh.

This is ACT/NSW but you get the idea. url]https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6024181/one-state-but-two-different-sets-of-rules-for-p-platers-from-act-and-nsw/[/url]

In both NSW and the ACT, ACT P-platers

can go the posted speed limit even up to 110km/h
can have a carload of their friends under age 21 at anytime
can drive a high-powered car
can tow a trailer weighing less than 750kg
can use a hands-free mobile phone
will not necessarily lose their licence if caught speeding

Whereas NSW P-platers in NSW

cannot exceed 90km/h on their red Ps and 100km/h on their green Ps
cannot drive a high powered car cannot carry more than one under-21-year-old friend between 11pm and 5am
cannot tow trailers weighing more than 250kg
cannot use a mobile phone at all unless parked
will automatically lose their licence for speeding (if caught once on red Ps and twice on green Ps)
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In SA you have 24hrs to present to a Police station with it.
Where would they send a passengers body if they we're killed in an accident too or do passengers have to carry ID if in a car in NSW in case of an accident?
Non argument. Common sense says you carry your license.

Lets say that you're involved in an accident that's not your fault and the other driver involved is in car belonging to someone else.
They can't give you their details as they don't have their license with them. Would you take their word when they give you their name and address and that they really do have a current license and will show to a Police station later.

Which Police station and how would you explain it to your insurance company
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Not quite. If a red P plater with a Vic license drives in NSW they can drive at 110kmh on a Freeway whereas a NSW P Plater must only do 90kmh.

This is ACT/NSW but you get the idea. url]https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6024181/one-state-but-two-different-sets-of-rules-for-p-platers-from-act-and-nsw/[/url]

In both NSW and the ACT, ACT P-platers

can go the posted speed limit even up to 110km/h
can have a carload of their friends under age 21 at anytime
can drive a high-powered car
can tow a trailer weighing less than 750kg
can use a hands-free mobile phone
will not necessarily lose their licence if caught speeding

Whereas NSW P-platers in NSW

cannot exceed 90km/h on their red Ps and 100km/h on their green Ps
cannot drive a high powered car cannot carry more than one under-21-year-old friend between 11pm and 5am
cannot tow trailers weighing more than 250kg
cannot use a mobile phone at all unless parked
will automatically lose their licence for speeding (if caught once on red Ps and twice on green Ps)

I agree with Trevor 57 comment, we talking about a learners permit not a licence holder.
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planning a road trip with my Learner daughter from Vic into NSW. Can someone please confirm that the Vic permit conditions stay with her? ie that she can drive at the posted limit on the freeway, not the NSW restricted speeds? that's hot to interpret this statement, right?

https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boati...icence-holders

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Why don't you just ring NSW police as I'm quite sure they will tell you the requirements for Vic learners permit speed conditions in NSW.
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I agree with Trevor 57 comment, we talking about a learners permit not a licence holder.
OK try this page then...........

https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boati...eas%20visitors.


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When driving in NSW, you must stay below the speed limit shown on road signs and the speed limit that applies to your licence at home."


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Why don't you just ring NSW police as I'm quite sure they will tell you the requirements for Vic learners permit speed conditions in NSW.
Ring a HP office, general duties probably wouldn't know.
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Non argument. Common sense says you carry your license.

Lets say that you're involved in an accident that's not your fault and the other driver involved is in car belonging to someone else.
They can't give you their details as they don't have their license with them. Would you take their word when they give you their name and address and that they really do have a current license and will show to a Police station later.

Which Police station and how would you explain it to your insurance company
Not about common sense, the question was about laws from different states and how they apply interstate.
I was simply highlighting that what applies in one state can differ from another which is what the question asked eluded to.
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To the OP, if you want legal advice either ring the police as suggested or call a solicitor/lawyer/barrister that specialises in traffic law.

The thread is now closed. I don't want some learner or P plater to read this and think that they are OK when they possibly will not be.
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