Environmentally-backwards Australia becoming an “automotive third world," Volkswagen claims

[Franco Cozzo]

Environmentally-backwards Australia becoming an “automotive third world," Volkswagen claims

Local emissions regulations – or lack thereof – are making it increasingly difficult for manufacturers to import new electrified models.

"As a consequence, other countries are even now receiving Volkswagen’s range of relatively affordable [electric vehicles], while the date of commencement for Australia’s roll-out is increasingly uncertain. Already Australia is missing the latest and most efficient conventional engines because of its appalling petrol quality, which remains among the most sulphurous in the OECD."

https://www.caradvice.com.au/935217/...swagen-claims/

The irony of charlatans like VW lecturing someone on environmental concerns is worth a laugh given they're responsible for one of the largest enviro-scams in modern history.

But this is a good point about our terrible quality fuel, this is something you could fix through amendments to Australian Standards, surely that's a 'low hanging fruit' measure you could easily implement and then use for a positive PR campaign?

[roKWiz]

[DJM83]

Australia has always been a back water.

We get watered down models with lesser spec than other countries, so in that aspect they are right.

[Sprintey]

At least we treat monkeys nicely.

[CyberWasp]

[IanC]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

https://www.caradvice.com.au/935217/...swagen-claims/

But this is a good point about our terrible quality fuel, this is something you could fix through amendments to Australian Standards, surely that's a 'low hanging fruit' measure you could easily implement and then use for a positive PR campaign?

Premium fuel is available if you want to pay for it. Most folk don't. Better fuel would be higher priced.

[M&Ms]

Pot calling the kettle black there.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by IanC

Premium fuel is available if you want to pay for it. Most folk don't. Better fuel would be higher priced.

Premium fuel should really only be a few cents more per litre, not 15-20c/L like it is.
It does not cost 15% more to produce.

[CyberWasp]

Why do companies need to wait for the Government to set standards?
There is nothing stopping a company bringing in Engines or Fuels that exceed the minimum standard set by the government.
A proper switched on company, would see this an opportunity to market it as a point of differentiation between its competitors, to its advantage.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by IanC

Premium fuel is available if you want to pay for it. Most folk don't. Better fuel would be higher priced.

It's not the octane rating, it's the sulfur content of the fuel which is still high regardless if it's premium or not.

Though they should remove 91 from sale, Mazda gives us crippled engines because of our love for using 91.

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Why do companies need to wait for the Government to set standards?
There is nothing stopping a company bringing in Engines or Fuels that exceed the minimum standard set by the government.
A proper switched on company, would see this an opportunity to market it as a point of differentiation between its competitors, to its advantage.

If there's no infrastructure to support it, IE they bring in newer engine technology that needs low sulfur fuels there'll be issues with warranty claims.

[GO FURTHER]

Even our 98 RON is 5 times worse in Sulphur content than other countries.

[DRU842]

VW pushing for GovCo subsidies anyone?

[csv8]

XR Martin premium diesel is only 2cl more than truck diesel. But 98 is 20cl more ??? greed ?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by csv8

XR Martin premium diesel is only 2cl more than truck diesel. But 98 is 20cl more ??? greed ?

What's the difference between premium diesel and truck diesel? Aside from the 2 cpl

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by XR Martin

Premium fuel should really only be a few cents more per litre, not 15-20c/L like it is.
It does not cost 15% more to produce.

Like with many things, that's what we have been 'conditioned' to pay.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

What's the difference between premium diesel and truck diesel? Aside from the 2 cpl

Apparently nothing.

I'm told that the discounted truck diesel is actually identical to the regular stuff however the fact they use high volume pumps and buy tons more than a car per fill means you get a little bit of a discount.

Not sure how true that is.

[cycle myth]

The amount of noise in multiple issues means not a lot of response here.

Pressure to build petrol refineries for better quality fuel (means better engines and health improvements with improved air quality.

But - most oil companies are pulling out of local production and won't want to spend

The Government motivating electric cars won't help the business case for petrol refinery plant investment

Many of the power grids won't take large volumes of electric cars drawing power

The same issue restricts solar panels putting power into the grid so there also needs some investment in clean, reliable electricity generation

AND and probably most pivotal the government still doesn't have comfort on a good way to recover any loss tax revenue from fuel excise for electric cars replacing petrol cars.

(so the frogurt is also cursed )

So unless a clear stance on improved plant investment, clean electricity sources and electrical infrastructure with a good revenue model it looks like we'll be driving a lot more VW's spewing out stuff we don't want to breathe.

[Ben73]

I have seen a few examples of VW virtue signalling lately. I guess they're trying to make up for crimes against humanity for who know how long? 1937 probably.

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by Ben73

I have seen a few examples of VW virtue signalling lately. I guess they're trying to make up for crimes against humanity for who know how long? 1937 probably.

I can’t see any VW advertising re the Slave labour they used in the 1940’s

But Hey Australia’s backwards 👍

Go figure.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by IanC

Premium fuel is available if you want to pay for it. Most folk don't. Better fuel would be higher priced.

It costs 2-3 c per litre to make 95, over 91. They charge 15-20 c a litre as nothing more than a con to make profit.

Nothing but a scam. The sooner we ditch 91 and make 95 the new base fuel the better. Hard to see anyone going to be unable to afford an extra 2-3 c per litre. Can save that by shopping around and finding the lowest price servo if they really need to.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

What's the difference between premium diesel and truck diesel? Aside from the 2 cpl

Don't get premium here.
There's 2 diesels available here regular diesel and winter mix heading into colder months.

[ratter]

To make the most out of direct injection engines a stratified charge should be used, but this requires a Nox converter to be fitted and our fuel would damage one of these

[Sprintey]

My fav part of "that" part of the internet:

http://greyfalcon.us/restored/JOSEF%20ANDREAS%20EPP.htm

omega diskus, claimed here to be built by skoda '43-'45. Of course it might be a bit hard to adequately verify this....

[Ben73]

Jeep has 2 unreliable cars go viral on the internet and is known for expensive parts and everyone in Australia is like "lOl yOu oWn a jEeP, iT MuSt sPeNd mOrE TiMe iN ThE WoRkShOp tHaN On tHe rOaD" and the sales take a nose dive.

VW literately kills people by gassing them to death, are unreliable and also have expensive parts and their sales hardly even dip in Australia. This country is weird.

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by cycle myth

AND and probably most pivotal the government still doesn't have comfort on a good way to recover any loss tax revenue from fuel excise for electric cars replacing petrol cars.

.

The simplest way is to change registration to a kilometre based system, instead of weight or cylinder count depending on state.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

The simplest way is to change registration to a kilometre based system, instead of weight or cylinder count depending on state.

Yep, Vic Government is introducing a per km tax for EV's to be paid at time of registration renewal...so it's starting.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Ben73

Jeep has 2 unreliable cars go viral on the internet and is known for expensive parts and everyone in Australia is like "lOl yOu oWn a jEeP, iT MuSt sPeNd mOrE TiMe iN ThE WoRkShOp tHaN On tHe rOaD" and the sales take a nose dive.

VW literately kills people by gassing them to death, are unreliable and also have expensive parts and their sales hardly even dip in Australia. This country is weird.

Sales of VW hardly dipped anywhere. I guess no one really cared.

[xxx000]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Don't get premium here.
There's 2 diesels available here regular diesel and winter mix heading into colder months.

premium diesel is available where i fill up
2c per litre price difference to regular diesel

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

The simplest way is to change registration to a kilometre based system, instead of weight or cylinder count depending on state.

Not fair for people who live regional as they travel further than metropolitan Melbourne residents - they're basically being punished for living away from Melbourne.

I'm against the idea, I live regional

[ratter]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Not fair for people who live regional as they travel further than metropolitan Melbourne residents - they're basically being punished for living away from Melbourne.

I'm against the idea, I live regional

then you do more wear and tear to the roads