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I pitty the poor people who bought a Leaf Recently.
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They would have to be losing money on them at that price
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The new price positions it more accurately in the market, being significantly cheaper than the Volt which while being too expensive as well, is the far superior option. Needing a 15amp power outlet is the deal breaker for the Leaf for so many of its target market (ie inner city types with no off street parking)
Also, its yet another import to have its price tag cut recently, as per my other thread. |
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I dont even understand why anyone would buy one in Australia when our electricity predominantly comes from coal or gas. Just buy a gas car. Imagine if it took off really quick, we wouldnt have the electricity to meet the needs anyway, we barely cope in the summer now at times. If we had cheap nuclear power it may be a different story, but we wont see that as it appears to be a political hot potato due tmostly to the publics perception of nuclear power and ignorance of the modern reactors.
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Nice for the person looking to buy one, terrible for whoever bought one recently.
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Can go comparing it to a Volt, different style of car really.
None of this will get going until we are forced to or the gov starts buying them in bulk.
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Ouch
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I've driven one for a few days. if you can get over the styling their quite fun around the city. Fun burning off at the lights to dead silence.
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Blue Blood
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I don't pity anyone that bought these.
No one in their right mind would buy a car like this. The name itself should turn any sensible person away.
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There were 11 electric cars in total sold in Australia last month. 11 !. And of those 11 i'll bet most of them were bought by fleets trying to look green.
Hardly even seems worth putting them on the market cause clearly no one wants an electric vehicle. |
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If I had some crappy 30min commute to work in peak hour then what is the point in owning a GT again? Thats the point. I would happily own one of these for the commute and then have a toy for the weekend if it suited.
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Um .. Where I work we have the Mitsi electric car.. The range is hopeless and is trailered home often..Costing more just to look green..
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It's all well and good to be green but if you want to charge that sort of money they could at least look good.
Almost all these hybrids/electric cars look like **** and cost a fortune. Even if it fell out of a helicopter and survived the fall I wouldn't be caught dead in one even if it were free ![]() |
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I would atleast make sure it did the return trip to work !!
Thats where I would charge it..
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OK and how much is Telsta? Atleast the Leaf is attainable for most average people. AFAIK its good for 150kms per charge @ full power.
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"Exhaust shifting"...instead of the tailpipe, it comes out of a power station in someone elses back yard far away from yuppie-land...
Hybrids like the Prius and electric cars have to look "different"...how else will everyone know what you're driving, for christs sake!! Look at the hybrids like the Camry Hybrid and the Honda Civic Hybrid...jesus, you could be driving a normal car...how are you supposed to let everyone know how green you are if your car looks like everyone elses?? Studies were done a long time back when the Prius came out, and they showed that people not only wanted to drive a hybrid or electric car...more importantly they wanted to be seen to be driving one...a kind of "look at me and how green I am and you are not!" philosophy... ![]() |
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Catch the bus. That's what I do. I wouldn't be seen dead in a car like this.
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EVs will happen, its just waiting for everyone to jump.
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Reality bites and when the battery is new a realistic range driven in a normal manner is probably circa 80-90 km's. The real problems if you do a bit of research on how lithium ion batteries performacne degrades with age is that after a few years its quite likely the range will decay to about half that...or about 40-50 km's. Have a look how long Nissan warrant the batteries for.... and compare that to Toyota's 8 year warranty of their nickel metal hydride batteries...that'll give you the clue as to the problems down the track with this vehicle. Its butt ugly looks don't help either. At least the Volt can be driven when the battery is depleted and its smart looks don't do its chances any harm. When they finally get more realistic with the price of that, it may start to get some traction on the sales charts. |
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They were training Nissan mechanics at my TAFE, but wouldn't include it as part of our training as auto electricians.
I feel sorry for the poor bastard poking around 600V with his screwdriver. |
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In a "normal" car there might be a 12 volts and a few amps floating around to give you a bit of a boot...but in the average electric car there are many hundreds of volts and also several hundred amps...and that won't just give you a tingle... |
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Battery switch is the way to go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbd7L...e_gdata_player If more brands get involved and the infrastructure can be rolled out fast and comprehensively enough this could be the way of the future. |
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Yep love to have a battery where the people charging me for changing it tell me when to do it. You buy the car, Ill buy the shares.
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Well Ive seen Brisbane city council stickered Leafs getting around a bit lately so they would be the first adpoters if it proves to be worth while.
If it cant work in the cities then it has buckly's anywhere else. Its going to be interesting and you have to start somewhere.
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