who dictates classic car prices and the like...

iamdeath · 11-01-2008, 02:24 PM

is it the genuine collectors and car gurus or is it idiots who think because a neat version of there rusted hulk sells for x theres has to be worth at least 2/3 of x..
ppl like this are the reason i had to pay decent money to put my *** in a neat xf falcon...
opinions people!!

Dave_au · 11-01-2008, 02:26 PM

Its what the market is willing to pay.

Obviously you were willing to pay, as you put it, decent money to put yourself in a neat XF, so it's people like you who also drive up prices :P

4Vman · 11-01-2008, 02:27 PM

Id hardly call an XF a "classic collectable..."
Market forces determine price, also having allot of disposible income/asset lying around helps.
Allot of people want a piece of Bathurst history in their garage, these people are prepared to pay big money.. the rest get dragged along for the ride.

iamdeath · 11-01-2008, 02:27 PM

fair call chief but if i didnt pay i didnt get.....get my rant???lol..

Kryton · 11-01-2008, 02:29 PM

theres a market for XF's?
how much did you pay for it and do you have any pics?

iamdeath · 11-01-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

Id hardly call an XF a "classic collectable..."

nowhere have i said an xf is a classic collectable....but the fact that older versions are pulling big cash makes my ol gin bus xf a pricey item...my point is why are ppl thinking they can just whack anyold price on a heap...

iamdeath · 11-01-2008, 02:31 PM

yep there is a market for xf due to the fact all early x series are going skyward in price...i paid 1700 for my 1 owner stocker....too much in my opinion but i wanted so i paid....yep have a few pics..

DoreSlamR · 11-01-2008, 02:32 PM

You should still be able to get a pretty straight XF for under $5000, they are getting harder to find and thats what increases the prices of these cars, the rarer they are obviously they're gonna be worth more. Also as these rarer cars like XW's XY's etc etc go up in price the market shifts to the next car for people to 'do up'.

Hell one day EA's might be the next car that everyone wants ;)

4Vman · 11-01-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by iamdeath

nowhere have i said an xf is a classic collectable....but the fact that older versions are pulling big cash makes my ol gin bus xf a pricey item...my point is why are ppl thinking they can just whack anyold price on a heap...

I don't begrudge anyone asking whatever they like for their car, its the buyers who pay what they think is fair, nobody puts a gun to their head and forces them to pay it...

Kryton · 11-01-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by iamdeath

too much in my opinion but i wanted so i paid....yep have a few pics..

theres your answer.
it was too much IYO but you still bought it anyway.
on the other hand though the owner might have a genuine reason that it was $1700. not knowing any details, he might have put brand new tyres on it, redone the head or engine etc etc etc so in his books if he's just spent $1700 then your basically just paying for the work thats been done and you got a free car. not over priced after all.

Tropicsnude · 11-01-2008, 02:36 PM

People are always within their rights to whack any old price they like on any old heap they might have.... However, It is the market that will dictate the price.
Never let prices of vehicles for sale be an indication of the actual value of that vehicle, as it's only when the vehicle sells that its true value is known.
Quite simply.... Something is always worth whatever someone is prepared to pay for it.
i.e. It is the market that will dictate the price.
Obviously XF's are worth a little more than you originally thought, as you paid more than you originally expected ;-)

Bullitt68 · 11-01-2008, 02:37 PM

The ones most responsible are the tossers willing to pay stupid amounts of money to give prestige to their purchase.

4Vman · 11-01-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by iamdeath

yep there is a market for xf due to the fact all early x series are going skyward in price...i paid 1700 for my 1 owner stocker....too much in my opinion but i wanted so i paid....yep have a few pics..

You're worried about paying $1700 for an XF...? :yeees:

Like i said, the buyers ultimately determine what gets paid... if a car is advertised to expensive it won't sell, if you want the car but don't like the price negotiate, or move on..

iamdeath · 11-01-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

You're woried about paying $1700 for an XF...? :yeees:

Like i said, the buyers ultimately determine what gets paid...

yeah maybe i expected alot more for less,but i payed and im happy...but just started this due to the amount of overpriced cars for sale all over latley,wanted to gauge some opinions..
cheers

||| · 11-01-2008, 02:42 PM

xf prices are on the rise and it hurts us all. nice concourse examples are heading out of the reach of blue collar enthusiats. i'd hate to see the price a low km S-Pac would bring.

the e series will be the next ones to move so im getting in while i can. hope the economy stays strong

T3ts50 · 11-01-2008, 02:42 PM

Isnt the going rate for an XF between $1,000 to $2,000 anways.

Was that $1,700 including roadworthy. If so I dont think you paid to much.

4Vman · 11-01-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by |||

xf prices are on the rise and it hurts us all. nice concourse examples are heading out of the reach of blue collar enthusiats. i'd hate to see the price a low km S-Pac would bring.

the e series will be the next ones to move so im getting in while i can. hope the economy stays strong

Don't forget these cars were 12-15K new... and they're no where near that yet, so were hardly talking big $$ in any mans language.

Justin@ · 11-01-2008, 02:45 PM

A lot of the problem is that people only want the cars that have had all the work done to them. If you paid that much for an xf then you really didnt look hard enough, i can get straight rust free xf's for under $700. Its just that they are grandpa spec and need a tidy up.

plext · 11-01-2008, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by |||

xf prices are on the rise and it hurts us all. nice concourse examples are heading out of the reach of blue collar enthusiats. i'd hate to see the price a low km S-Pac would bring.

the e series will be the next ones to move so im getting in while i can. hope the economy stays strong

Best laugh I've had in a while.

Thanks.

4Vman · 11-01-2008, 04:24 PM

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Best laugh I've had in a while.

Thanks.

I better go snap up an XF and an E series quickly for my collection before they "go through the roof", they'll look right at home next to the XYGT..!

Nostalgia · 11-01-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

I better go snap up an XF and an E series quickly for my collection before they "go through the roof", they'll look right at home next to the XYGT..!

I got a 88 EA "S" 5 Speed with only 151,000 kms if youre keen.

||| · 11-01-2008, 04:31 PM

the 3.9L EAs are the only ones worth watching at the moment. just like the early XBs these are the rare ones that will stand out from the pack in 20 years or so because they have a different engine configuration. transmissions of course are another key area but the three speed vs the four speed auto shouldnt make too much difference

Nostalgia · 11-01-2008, 04:32 PM

I gotta go and have a beer or several

BENT_8 · 11-01-2008, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

I better go snap up an XF and an E series quickly for my collection before they "go through the roof", they'll look right at home next to the XYGT..!

Knock back an ED Sprint would you?

Surely a 90's musclecar...

BENT_8 · 11-01-2008, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by |||

the 3.9L EAs are the only ones worth watching at the moment. just like the early XBs these are the rare ones that will stand out from the pack in 20 years or so because they have a different engine configuration. transmissions of course are another key area but the three speed vs the four speed auto shouldnt make too much difference

I hope your takin the p...
They only made em in 3.2l and 3.9l the former being rarer than the later and hardly worth having anyway.

4Vman · 11-01-2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by |||

the 3.9L EAs are the only ones worth watching at the moment. just like the early XBs these are the rare ones that will stand out from the pack in 20 years or so because they have a different engine configuration.

stop it my sides are aching!

4Vman · 11-01-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

Knock back an ED Sprint would you?

Surely a 90's musclecar...

ED what? not even close...

The only E series id get remotely excited about are the EB/L GT's.. and even then its a stretch.

||| · 11-01-2008, 04:45 PM

the brock eas would be a solid investment now that the man has passed on

rip brock the peoples champion always and forever

BENT_8 · 11-01-2008, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

ED what? not even close...

The only E series id get remotely excited about are the EB/L GT's.. and even then its a stretch.

Well i must say that surprises me and i'm serious coz i thought you'd like the no frills 200kw Sprint as opposed to the plastic look 136 piece body kit as fitted to both those GT's

4Vman · 11-01-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by |||

the brock eas would be a solid investment now that the man has passed on

rip brock the peoples champion always and forever

"solid investment" and "car" are 2 words that should rarely be used together..... certainly not for anything manufactured after 1978... or missing GT or GTHO in its title...
The brock hype has subsided now, and before anyone jumps down my throat think about what Solid investment really means in terms of gains year after year, cars are certainly low on my list of potential solid investments....