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Old 25-07-2013, 09:43 AM   #1
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Keep a close eye on your speed when you are driving in Brisbane's east – the area has been revealed as a hot spot for speed cameras.

Nearly 3700 approved mobile speed camera sites exist in Queensland and nearly 250 are located in Brisbane, according to data released by the Queensland government.

See the full list

Old Cleveland Road has the dubious honour of boasting the city's most approved speed camera sites, with 19 along a 22km stretch which winds through Wellington Point, Camp Hill, Carina and Carindale.

Mount Cotton Road on the city's outskirts follows closely behind with 15 sites and nearby Mt Gravatt-Capalaba Road has nine.
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Other densely populated roads include Wynnum Road, with 13 approved sites, and Lytton Road in the inner east with 10.

Closer to the inner city, Kingsford Smith Drive has seven approved sites while Kelvin Grove Road has six.

Centre for Accident Research and Road Safety Queensland researcher David Soole said the sites were not necessarily home to active cameras but had been targeted as approved sites based on crash data.

"There is a list of areas that have been identified as problematic areas and then there is a random scheduling process to choose within those sites where speed cameras will be every day," he said.

Mr Soole denied the number of sites was excessive or a form of government revenue raising.

"There is always that complaint; the fundamental issue with public perception is there is an inappropriate belief speeding isn't as dangerous as the research and evidence continually proves it is," he said.

"The evidence is really, really clear that speeding takes you longer to brake and you hit things harder. The skill of the driver has nothing to do with it."

Queensland police minister Jack Dempsey said he would like to see no speeding fines issued in the state.

"Speed cameras can be anywhere, anytime, often in blackspot areas," he said.

"At the end of the day, no-one has to get a speeding ticket. They are an optional fine."

Mr Soole said mobile speed camera sites were not designed to trick people but rather to slow them down.

"Speed cameras aren't the be all and end all, we need the optimal mix of fixed and mobile speed cameras and point-to-point cameras in slowing people down," he said.

Elsewhere in the state Queensland's longest and most notorious stretch of road, the Bruce Highway, has 430 approved mobile speed camera sites, or one every four kilometres.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/quee...#ixzz2a0eEOELR

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Old 25-07-2013, 10:00 AM   #2
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Keep a close eye on your speed when you are driving in Brisbane's east – the area has been revealed as a hot spot for speed cameras.

Nearly 3700 approved mobile speed camera sites exist in Queensland and nearly 250 are located in Brisbane, according to data released by the Queensland government.

See the full list

Old Cleveland Road has the dubious honour of boasting the city's most approved speed camera sites, with 19 along a 22km stretch which winds through Wellington Point, Camp Hill, Carina and Carindale.

Mount Cotton Road on the city's outskirts follows closely behind with 15 sites and nearby Mt Gravatt-Capalaba Road has nine.
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Other densely populated roads include Wynnum Road, with 13 approved sites, and Lytton Road in the inner east with 10.

Closer to the inner city, Kingsford Smith Drive has seven approved sites while Kelvin Grove Road has six.

Centre for Accident Research and Road Safety Queensland researcher David Soole said the sites were not necessarily home to active cameras but had been targeted as approved sites based on crash data.

"There is a list of areas that have been identified as problematic areas and then there is a random scheduling process to choose within those sites where speed cameras will be every day," he said.

Mr Soole denied the number of sites was excessive or a form of government revenue raising.

"There is always that complaint; the fundamental issue with public perception is there is an inappropriate belief speeding isn't as dangerous as the research and evidence continually proves it is," he said.

"The evidence is really, really clear that speeding takes you longer to brake and you hit things harder. The skill of the driver has nothing to do with it."

Queensland police minister Jack Dempsey said he would like to see no speeding fines issued in the state.

"Speed cameras can be anywhere, anytime, often in blackspot areas," he said.

"At the end of the day, no-one has to get a speeding ticket. They are an optional fine."

Mr Soole said mobile speed camera sites were not designed to trick people but rather to slow them down.

"Speed cameras aren't the be all and end all, we need the optimal mix of fixed and mobile speed cameras and point-to-point cameras in slowing people down," he said.

Elsewhere in the state Queensland's longest and most notorious stretch of road, the Bruce Highway, has 430 approved mobile speed camera sites, or one every four kilometres.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/quee...#ixzz2a0eEOELR
Same old propaganda.

The skill of the driver makes no difference.

The drone who is concentrating on their speedo half asleep at the wheel doing 90 in a 100 zone and does not see the problem until they are on top of it and therefore hits it at 90km/h is safe while the hoon who is doing 120 in a 100 zone, sees the problem and takes evasive action immediately slowing only to 20km/h for the collision is in terrible danger.

The quality of the vehicle is also something that is always left out.
Sticky tyres and performance brakes tend to stop a LOT more quickly than $40 donuts and tin discs or drums.
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Old 25-07-2013, 10:27 AM   #3
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Sorry Flappist but please accept that this is the usual post response from you too

The idea is to make people drive at no more than the posted limit, not an unreasonable idea surely?
It's one of the thousands of priorities of govt. or as you call them 'govco'.

So by your statement 'hoons' (speeders) statistically have fewer accidents with less damage/injuries?

We all like to think we're better drivers (and smarter too) than the person next to us but reality is they are thinking exactly the same. Which of them is right?
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Old 25-07-2013, 10:37 AM   #4
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Sorry Flappist but please accept that this is the usual post response from you too

The idea is to make people drive at no more than the posted limit, not an unreasonable idea surely?
It's one of the thousands of priorities of govt. or as you call them 'govco'.

So by your statement 'hoons' (speeders) statistically have fewer accidents with less damage/injuries?

We all like to think we're better drivers (and smarter too) than the person next to us but reality is they are thinking exactly the same. Which of them is right?
A highway patrol officer can see the difference between a hoon driving irresponsibly @ 120 kph, and another driver driving safely to the conditions, however above the posted arbitrary "maximum speed set for the worst conditions that stretch of road may see" A camera does not.

Of course said HWP officer is more expensive and less efficient at collecting revenue than a camera, so in a business sense, a poor solution. Hence Govco.

This is the issue of "usual posts" like yours - camera have replaced for the most part good, constructive policing.
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Old 25-07-2013, 10:43 AM   #5
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sorry but the HWP cop will still book them so what's the difference?

Instead try telling the 'but I'm a safe driver' story in court, it'd get a chuckle

or maybe try not blaming someone else, or something else, for you being booked for speeding?
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sorry but the HWP cop will still book them so what's the difference?

Instead try telling the 'but I'm a safe driver' story in court, it'd get a chuckle

or maybe try not blaming someone else, or something else, for you being booked for speeding?
Seriously? HWP Police putting out 100's of speeding tickets for 3-6 kph over the limit?

They just don't do it, unless you are driving like a dill or are significantly over.

Why? because they genuinely care about safety, not revenue. But don't let the real issues get in the way of a simplistic answer that makes money.
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Old 25-07-2013, 10:56 AM   #7
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we had been talking about 120 in a 100 zone my friend, check Flappist's post
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we had been talking about 120 in a 100 zone my friend, check Flappist's post
Never run up over the posted speed limit?
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I swear i read one of these threads a day with the same outcome always....

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If you don't speed you won't get caught eh..... im waiting for these model citizens to arrive any second.
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yes my thoughts exactly its getting old......hopefully in before THE LOCK (PLEASE LOCK!!!!!)
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Cops love Old Cleveland Road, Carina. Just between Stanky and Orana Streets.

Another spot on that same road is just east of the Chandler Sports complex on the west-bound direction.

However, the road where I see a speed van almost every time I use it is Mount Gravatt-Capalaba Road, going through Wishart.
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I don't get these arguments. Speeding is speeding whether you're a hoon or a good driver. A camera will book both for the same offence. Now if you were to get pulled over by a HWP then you'll get a speeding ticket and maybe some extra ones if you were driving dangerously as well.

This post was just about extra speed camera locations, not about whether speeding is ok or not.

To the OP, thanks for the info.
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I swear i read one of these threads a day with the same outcome always....

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I agree, these "Brisbane Speed Camera Crisis" threads by csv8 are pointless. There are speed cameras in every state, Brisbane has had more than enough coverage.
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I wonder why Europe has a lower death rate, when most speed zones see 40+km/h over the limit all the time.
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Sorry Flappist but please accept that this is the usual post response from you too

The idea is to make people drive at no more than the posted limit, not an unreasonable idea surely?
It's one of the thousands of priorities of govt. or as you call them 'govco'.

So by your statement 'hoons' (speeders) statistically have fewer accidents with less damage/injuries?

We all like to think we're better drivers (and smarter too) than the person next to us but reality is they are thinking exactly the same. Which of them is right?
Yes it is my usual response.

The idea is to make people drive at no more than the posted limit is without doubt one of the most close minded stupid naive thinking possible.

The world is not a white paper on an academics desk.

The only way a head on collision can happen is if a vehicle is on the wrong side of the road. The less time spent on the wrong side of the road the less chance of a potentially fatal collision yet you would like people to spend more time on the wrond side of the road wile overtaking unless of course you believe that no one should overtake and just dawdle along in a line when ever they are travelling.

As far as the "hoon" comment, well my information comes from actual HP Police who attend accidents and enforce road rules. The point made is that "hoons" (not the ACA hoon showband) are usually difficult to catch as they are very aware of their suroundings and see the patrols before they are in range whereas the "drones" have no idea what is going on around them. "hoons" also do not appear in most of the fatals.

Before you go into ACA mode, the "hoon" about which I speak is the driver who travels at 110-130 on the highway and might hit 140-150 overtaking a line of traffic not the doof doofs who hang around maccas and street race at the lights.

"We all like to think we are better drivers but we are not, we are all the same".

No what you actually mean is

"I am a crap driver and am normal so all other normal people must be a crap drivers therefore anyone who thinks they are better than me is not normal to the point of delusional".

It comes back to the real world.

If rabid enforcement of speed limits was actually a valid solution to the issue of road safety then:

Victoria would have a much much lower road toll than all the other states.
NT would have a HUGE road toll much higher than all the other states combined.
German Autobahns would look like war zones.
UK would have hardly any road deaths at all.

So what is your reasons as to why none of this is true?
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yeah thanks for that

A nice made up misquote of me here..."We all like to think we are better drivers but we are not, we are all the same".
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Seriously? HWP Police putting out 100's of speeding tickets for 3-6 kph over the limit?

They just don't do it, unless you are driving like a dill or are significantly over.

Why? because they genuinely care about safety, not revenue. But don't let the real issues get in the way of a simplistic answer that makes money.
That is the biggest load of CRAP! I have ever heard. The only thing HWP Police are interested in is making their quotas (speeding tickets and other infringments) for the month. Fact.
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What I dislike more than extra speed cameras is a new proposal to reduce speed limits. I heard today from my state member that a road in my local area is being looked at for a reduction to 60. There's been enough limit reductions already and this will be another opportunity to collect revenue from unsuspecting motorists.
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Knowing how easy it is to exceed the limit & how expensive it can be when booked is enough to keep me inside the law. I also know from past experience that speeding leaves me exhausted & somewhat frazzled, always worrying who's watching or what's around the bend. Why bother. There's this inherent belief in Aus that sitting just above the limit is acceptable....it's a boosheet belief! We should ignore these threads in future. Just keep speeding folks & enjoy looking over your shoulder!
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That is the biggest load of CRAP! I have ever heard. The only thing HWP Police are interested in is making their quotas (speeding tickets and other infringments) for the month. Fact.
If that is the biggest load of crap you have ever read then you haven't read enough threads on here
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So by your statement 'hoons' (speeders) statistically have fewer accidents with less damage/injuries?
Actually that is true, there have been studies that showed that drivers who regularly travel at speeds greater than the average are shown to be less likely to be involved in accidents.
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I travel those roads quite regularly, and in reality they do need to be doing something, maybe not speed cameras though.

I have no issue with stepping over the speed limit when conditions allow it, and on those roads, when you get a good run at the lights, you often find the traffic moving as a whole 10-15 km over the limit, and shock horror no mass fatalities.

But there does always seem to be a minority that have to zip in and out of traffic going even quicker than everyone else. These are the drivers that should be targeted.
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How many people are going to use the Brisbane tollways now they know
that the 60 kph limit is strictly enforced in dynamic speed limit situations..
Should do wonders for revenue....not.
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The list posted by Brisbane Times is nice but would be better with pictorial evidence of where they actually are on the road.

Got a nice picture in the mail last night and where I got pinged I don't think the plod in the car should have been sitting there as he looked like a car visiting the house he was sitting in front of.
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