NSW: New laws make touching mobile phones while driving illegal - Page 2

XR6T0Y · 20-10-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by robbyj

if i was pulled over to the side of the road on a call, and they pinged me i would be absolutely fuming! your doing the right thing by pulling over, what difference does keys in the ignition make?

i had to pick up my phone the other day to check the clock as i was in a school zone, still had 2 minutes until the school time was over (so i slowed down of course) but that would have been a nasty fine and hard to explain.

They get you because you are still technically in control of a motor vehicle while the ignition is on

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

and why are police exempt ? if it's unsafe it's unsafe for all. they may argue they are trained to do it safely, then where can the same training be done by the general public. putting on a uniform doesn't make them magically able to use a phone safely while driving

Police are exempt for many reasons. One being is, they need more access to communication tools. Using a CB is only an open channel to certain things. They use phones for other important things. When I was at my accident, the GD officer was using his phone to call the in charge officer.
Not to mention they are trained. Simple as that

Jim Goose · 20-10-2012, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6T0Y

They get you because you are still technically in control of a motor vehicle while the ignition is on

In the same way as sleeping drunk in your car with the keys in the ignition...
(or even sitting in your car drunk with keys in there)

XR6T0Y · 20-10-2012, 01:13 PM

They class it as, if the keys are in the ignition, you are in control. No matter if you are drunk, drugged, phones etc

falconnut · 20-10-2012, 01:16 PM

stupid excuse to get more revenue

pottery beige · 20-10-2012, 01:20 PM

even more reason why i go out of my way to break every little nanny state bs law they introduce..

i feel much the better for it..

falconnut · 20-10-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

even more reason why i go out of my way to break every little nanny state bs law they introduce..

i feel much the better for it..

Exactly this.

NSW is NOT QLD

VIC, QLD = Nanny state

NSW = Nobody gives a **** state

XR6T0Y · 20-10-2012, 01:33 PM

Oh trust me, I do NOT agree with it either. But one of my mates got fined while pulled over, car in neutral (manual) handbrake on, while on the phone

tranquilized · 20-10-2012, 02:13 PM

What about something like an iPod? Are you allowed to change the music your listening to in the car or is that illegal as well?

robbyj · 20-10-2012, 02:23 PM

That just does my head in. When i get pulled over i like to play dumb, in this case however i reckon i would get abusive and tell the copper to use some common sense. (would make things worse but might make them think about it later)

FGII-XR6 · 20-10-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6T0Y

They get you because you are still technically in control of a motor vehicle while the ignition is on

Police are exempt for many reasons. One being is, they need more access to communication tools. Using a CB is only an open channel to certain things. They use phones for other important things. When I was at my accident, the GD officer was using his phone to call the in charge officer.
Not to mention they are trained. Simple as that

thats my point if cops can be trained to use phones safely why can't others who need a phone for their job be trained???

mike_nofx · 20-10-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

thats my point if cops can be trained to use phones safely why can't others who need a phone for their job be trained???

What about a trained race car driver. Can he race on the road? He is trained.
Or a trained and licenced gun owner. Can he carry it on his belt like a copper?

Jim Goose · 20-10-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by au3xr6

thats my point if cops can be trained to use phones safely why can't others who need a phone for their job be trained???

Ah... your job involves life and death situations?.... chasing criminals? .....

Im sure everyone "needs" to use their phones. Just like texting... they all "need" to text while driving.

FGII-XR6 · 20-10-2012, 08:13 PM

most of the stuff cops use there phones for is general stuff not life and death. if it was only life and death stuff they would hardly ever have to use them and your texting comment is poorly thought out even cops cant text while driving. all I'm saying is with other forms of communications readily available they should rarely have to use phones while driving they just use them because they can
cops aren't magically safer because of their job or uniform. if using a phone is dangerous why should they use them ? dangerous is dangerous nothing changes that

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Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Ah... your job involves life and death situations?.... chasing criminals? .....

Im sure everyone "needs" to use their phones. Just like texting... they all "need" to text while driving.

mcnews · 20-10-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnout

Some poor souls in Qld have been fined for sitting in their car on the side of the road, talking on the phone. When approached they have had the keys still in the ignition...... and 'bingo' $333.00 on the spot.

That is what you get when you have brainless robots masquerading as coppers. They all have to be brain dead automatons to get anywhere in the force (farce) these days.

falconnut · 21-10-2012, 08:04 PM

i got a Jabra Drive for $60, pretty damn good.

thanks

graham7773 · 22-10-2012, 05:36 PM

This subject saddens me as it seems there are a number of people who just do not give a stuff about other road users. There is a heap of evidence that using anything but your car controls while driving ie stereo, phone, makeup, Maccas, even ciggy smoking can and does cause deaths and injuries on a daily basis. The one that stands out was the fool who was adjusting his car radio, looked down to find the control he needed and killed 4 (or more) teenagers. He was sent to gaol of course but that did not bring back the lost family members. When people learn to be responsible on the road maybe the penalties will no longer be needed but I'm not holding my breath. A member on these forums said he was too busy to be pulling over for phone and text. I wonder what he would be saying if someone with the same ideas put him in hospital while answering a text message?

**Burnout** · 22-10-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by blueoval

Political correctness will make it illegal for a driver entering a vehicle for fear of a crash. Ridiculous

Shav, please stop preempting our law makers, you are starting to sound like you are making suggestions!

aussie muscle · 23-10-2012, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Burnout

Some poor souls in Qld have been fined for sitting in their car on the side of the road, talking on the phone. When approached they have had the keys still in the ignition...... and 'bingo' $333.00 on the spot.

i reckon that falls into the category of abuse of the law. trying to do the right thing and get done. it's bad for PR. my nephew got done for this...in a car park!

Smoke Pursuit · 23-10-2012, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011G6E

Thank christ for the Bluetooth connectivity in the G6E we have then...

I do agree though...can it really not wait five minutes to pull over somewhere and answer it or wait until later and ring back...?

Problem is for many people their cars are their offices. I spend alot of time on the road and if I had to pull up everytime someone called me then Id spend most of the time parked up at roadhouses. I typically dont make outgoing calls in the car, only answer it.