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Old 29-10-2011, 07:38 PM   #31
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Old 29-10-2011, 07:41 PM   #32
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Old 29-10-2011, 07:43 PM   #33
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Old 29-10-2011, 07:48 PM   #34
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Here is the proof on the 202 powered FC holden. With dyno figures.

http://youtu.be/ZwCbK9s8jxw


http://youtu.be/yqCjwgQasCg
well there ya go! so why don't they do something like a vk? vl's are becoming.....yawn....

now for some ford xflow action....200xflow

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Old 30-10-2011, 01:14 AM   #35
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heard of a couple of Maatouk's built VLs run much higher then 34 pound
of boost...
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Old 30-10-2011, 03:49 AM   #36
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What if its just got 34lb injectors and he got confused?
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Old 30-10-2011, 07:53 AM   #37
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Why does 34 psi seem impossible to you guys ? There's plenty of stock motors on YouTube pumping that sort of boost pressure there's an fj20 and a 1/2jzs doing that

I think vl god runs something in the 40 psi range
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Old 30-10-2011, 08:37 AM   #38
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RB30's really are an impressive engine. I just hate it how holden put them in a commodore! LOL!
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Old 30-10-2011, 09:01 AM   #39
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34lbs??? I run 42lbs every day in my xr6t and have never had any reliability issues - in my tyres!
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RB30's really are an impressive engine. I just hate it how holden put them in a commodore! LOL!
I'm sure Holden do too, it nearly sent them broke with the currency shift.....


It's not the 34 psi bit I have a problem with, I have a good idea how much money it costs to run a reliable
10 second quarter in a car, pretty sure that time and the trap speed (+130 mph) necessitates a parachute,
a reliable drive line, well set up suspension and really good rubber....
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Old 30-10-2011, 09:19 AM   #41
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I'm sure Holden do too, it nearly sent them broke with the currency shift.....


It's not the 34 psi bit I have a problem with, I have a good idea how much money it costs to run a reliable
10 second quarter in a car, pretty sure that time and the trap speed (+130 mph) necessitates a parachute,
a reliable drive line, well set up suspension and really good rubber....
140MPH at calder for a chute.
A mate of mine runs a yellow VL turbo (is there any other color???)
He drives it to the track, runs 9.8's and drives it home. On mickey Thompson street E/T's Radials. No problems and no dramma's.
Today's 8's are yesterdays 10's. A 10 Second car is not "that fast" anymore.
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Old 30-10-2011, 09:47 AM   #42
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a 10-sec car is still fast, but i think these days less and less people are impressed.

you can run just as good a number if not better on a MT ET Street as you can on a slick. i have talked to alot of Radial racers and alot of them 60' better than us and we use a full slick.
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Old 30-10-2011, 10:13 AM   #43
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Turbo engines can vary there power levels by boost or how the pedal is planted...
It's NOT like the engine is running full power all the time...
So a 700 h.p or so engine can last a long time..
Engines with high power / boost levels generally run lower compression which
helps durability ...
They develop sooo much mid range RPM torque that on the street high RPM is NOT required...
There's plenty of Mustangs in U.S with over 100,000 MILES on engine before a turbo is fitted and still keep going if tuned and serviced right...
As said hook up is the key to good times....
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Old 30-10-2011, 10:28 AM   #44
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There's plenty of Mustangs in U.S with over 100,000 MILES on engine before a turbo is fitted and still keep going if tuned and serviced right...
Theres plenty of old TD42 nissan diesel motor that have well over 400,000Ks and get turbos and massive boost and still go , well alot harder than they done n/a

Theres mention about manual boost controllers, last i heard they arent allowed in the cabin or now even at all
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Old 30-10-2011, 11:09 AM   #45
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Guy at work has a street registered vx that runs mid 8's
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I'm sure Holden do too, it nearly sent them broke with the currency shift.....


It's not the 34 psi bit I have a problem with, I have a good idea how much money it costs to run a reliable
10 second quarter in a car, pretty sure that time and the trap speed (+130 mph) necessitates a parachute,
a reliable drive line, well set up suspension and really good rubber....
Most vl's in 10's run stuffed rear shock standard rear springs (sometimes country pack ) and 90/10's with stock front springs or lows couldnt get more budget than that. Most run ET streets. you can easily fit 15inch 26x10 slick under a vl with standard springs untubbed.

To further this point there a quite a few VL's that have run 9's in full street trim with leather interiors and 19/20 inch rims with street tyres. Rajabs harlequin Calais comes to mind ran a 9.8 in that setup like 6 or 7 years ago

Most of the time reliability is all in tune big boost high HP doesnt kill motors....

Here's another manual vl running stock bottom end and stock r33 5spd 10.45 @134mph 385rwkw on pump fuel dont say stock motors arent any good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvXESxmzXks
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Hey guys.

A bloke at work just sold his VX V8 ute and got a VL turbo with the batman kit for 15k i think.
Anyway, I asked him how it goes, he said it does 10's on 14 pound boost but will run all day every day on 34 pounds! It's a manual with not a great deal of room for decent slicks.

Your thoughts? Is he full of it?
34lb? Did this bloke at your place of employment buy this thing from Roger Cordia or something?
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Old 30-10-2011, 02:05 PM   #49
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Old 30-10-2011, 02:12 PM   #50
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A guy at my work also has a vl it's a streeter and has gone 10.03 at Calder with boost i'n the 30 somethings i can't remember as I'm not into commodores there's a vid on full boost of it. I'll ask Monday. I can't see why people find it so hard to believe. And running 10 s i'n a street car isn't nothing it's very stout, it's just that it's more common now days
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Old 30-10-2011, 11:06 PM   #51
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Its not impossible , specially if it came from Matouks stables ...

He probably means it can handle 34psi all day @ the track no problems , which is spot on . I know of plenty of turbo cars running 30+psi @ the track all day . Without issue .
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Old 31-10-2011, 11:20 AM   #52
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sooo what its an 8sec Commy... now is it FULLY street registered and ADR compliant in 8sec trim...... more to street rego than just a sticker.......
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sooo what its an 8sec Commy... now is it FULLY street registered and ADR compliant in 8sec trim...... more to street rego than just a sticker.......
no reason it can't be done. hopefully by the end of the year we will get into the 7's with the Capri.
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Old 08-11-2011, 05:24 PM   #54
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if it could run 34 all day every day it would be running it..
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Old 11-11-2011, 01:22 AM   #55
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A lot of guys putting built motors into their Skylines these days are running with a series 2 RB30 block, as their RB25s are only good for about 400rwhp before they're on borrowed time. Forged RB30 short block with RB25 head and GT35 turbo will make between 500-550rwhp with bucketloads of torque and gets a Skyline into the 10s easily. VL weighs about the same, so I don't see why it seems so hard to fathom. Not a cheap exercise, but if old mate's bought himself a 10 second car for $15k, he's done alright. Of course, this being a Ford forum and all, not most people's cup of tea.
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A lot of guys putting built motors into their Skylines these days are running with a series 2 RB30 block, as their RB25s are only good for about 400rwhp before they're on borrowed time.
Not true.. RB25 can handle more...


Mate runs an rb25 bottom end still and has for the past 7+yrs with his setup
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Old 14-11-2011, 04:47 PM   #57
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I suppose it's like our efi 5.0 blocks. Some people can run 500 at the crank for ever, but others run less power and split the block in no time.

I'm no expert on Skylines (or anything for that matter) but after spending a lot of time discussing a build for a mate with a very reputable engine builder over here, he left me under the impression that if you go over 400rwhp, then you're pushing your luck.
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Old 14-11-2011, 06:32 PM   #58
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Come on guys stop talking about vl's making me upset lol.I know a bloke in town who has a XR falcon sedan 393clevo makes close to 730hp at the engine,untubbed and runs low 10 second quarters full street rego.Standard width XY 9inch.This thing revs hard too with cast iron 4V's.
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Old 22-11-2011, 09:45 PM   #59
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Mates VL Street car. No gauges on the bonnet inter-cooler doesn't bulge out the front bumper under bonnet looks totally stock including low mount XR6 turbo, turbo (that's right he needed the most important part of the motor to come from a FORD) come to think of it the motor came from Nissan.
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