VFACTS - July 2024

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by prydey

Getting back to car sales, I have noticed more and more Cupra models in recent times.

Initially I thought it was another cheap Chinese marque but soon discovered it was neither cheap nor Chinese.

Yet another member of VAG.

Started as subsidiary of SEAT or something but is now it's own brand.

For the price, I'm surprised how many I see around. Have others noticed similar in other states?

Was interested in the Cupra Born even though I hate VAG with a passion,

It weighs about as much as my old 7 series, which is a 5.1M long luxo barge,

How you can make a Golf sized hatch weigh that much is hilarious.

Have seen a few on the road, they look good

But it's 1900kg and under powered, with an expensive price tag.

I think for me I'll be waiting for a Tesla Model 2 to come along

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by kevino

Wouldn’t Maverick and Bronco not cannabilise Ranger Everest sales thus throwing the Thailand factory under the bus?

Ford Australia was actively looking at getting at least one of those vehicles a few years back
just as supplier shortages were becoming a continual problem but nothing eventuated.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by prydey

Yeah, there seems to be a lot of overlap with most of the VAG cars. Got to wonder how they can make it work but I guess each brand is essentially a separate business.

I guess the separate brands are seen as incremental sales, looks like over 300/mth for Cupra brand

[kevino]

Originally Posted by prydey

Yeah, there seems to be a lot of overlap with most of the VAG cars. Got to wonder how they can make it work but I guess each brand is essentially a separate business.

Perhaps they get (government) build subsidies in the different countries these are built.
VAG Germany Mexico S Africa
Cupra -Spain (?)
Skoda- Czech Republic

[kevino]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Was interested in the Cupra Born even though I hate VAG with a passion,

It weighs about as much as my old 7 series, which is a 5.1M long luxo barge,

How you can make a Golf sized hatch weigh that much is hilarious.

Have seen a few on the road, they look good

But it's 1900kg and under powered, with an expensive price tag.

I think for me I'll be waiting for a Tesla Model 2 to come along

Renault Megane E tech
1600kg

Waits for flames about French cars

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by prydey

Yeah, there seems to be a lot of overlap with most of the VAG cars. Got to wonder how they can make it work but I guess each brand is essentially a separate business.

And yet, Ford struggle to make vehicles with the steering wheel on either side, or see value in pursuing more volume from vehicles that would easily sell outside of the US market. Both aspects are a mere formailty to the likes of Toyota, Hyundai, Kia, BMW, Mercedes-Benz, the entire VAG group, Mazda.............................................

Originally Posted by kevino

Perhaps they get (government) build subsidies in the different countries these are built.
VAG Germany Mexico S Africa
Cupra -Spain (?)
Skoda- Czech Republic

Correct.