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Peter Car
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Long service leave is extra leave you get after 7 years of service, fully paid. Here after 7 years you need permission or justification to use, not so after 10 years.
I just passed my 10 years last month. |
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Superannuation is where you employer, whoever that may be, puts away 9% of your pay into a superannuation fund. When you retire at 65 (0r 60?) you can withdraw this money. It is more complicated than that, but that is basically it.
Then we also have an aged pension that is paid by the Government from our taxes. Long service leave is as Bossxr8 has said. Extra fully paid leave above your normal holidays. It is a bonus for staying with the same employer for 10 years or more. |
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Superannuation (aka super) in Australia = 401(k) in USA. We don't really have an equivalent for SS.
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Ok, I think we are on the same page now. Yes, in the US a 401K is a retirement fund you can choose to participate in at many employers. This is where you can choose to have a certain percentage of your pay directed to a retirement account, before your pay is taxed. Yes, you can start taking distribution of these funds around age 65, though I am not exactly sure if that age is accurate.
We get weeks of vacation pay based on years of service. Maximum is after 20 years at Ford, this earns you 5 weeks of vacation. Right now I am at 4 1/2 weeks (Been at Ford 17 years). Actually, two of those weeks are "personal time" where you can take the time one day off at a time, the rest are regular vacation weeks. You have to have two weeks available for the annual 2 week shutdown period. You receive additional vacation time at 5 years, 10 years, 15 years, and max at 20 years. I think you start with 2 weeks at 5 years. Steve
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Is 401k compulsory? 9% Superannuation contributions are mandatory in Australia, but you can voluntarily contribute above that. All contributions are taxed at a much reduced rate, but you are not supposed to be able to access that until you reach retirement age - previously and currently 65, but due to go up to 67 in a few years time. However there are duress conditions where people can apply to APRA to access their superannuation funds before retirement (loan foreclosure, illness, death etc)
The money is generally placed in a managed investment portfolio and as such it's value is dependent on market conditions. I know quite a few people that were planning to retire late in 2008 but could not because of the GFC slashing the value of their superannuation payout. Nearly all I know have elected to stay in the workforce until the economy, and the value of their 'super', recovers. Out of curiosity, Australia has some very heavily regulated OH&S (Occupational Health anbd Safety) laws that apply to all workplaces in the country. These laws add substantial burecratric and cost overheads to any major project, but have resulted in major reductions to injury and death counts over the years. Such laws include maximum lifting weights, muscle pressures, operating machinery, working with hazardous materials etc. Are there similar applicable laws such as these in the US? Lukeyson
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Luke, these lines from my above post will answer the question about compulsory participation...
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Yes, many American's 401K's were wiped out due to the crash of the economy due to where that money was invested. We have OSHA; Occupational Safety and Health Administration. They also regulate health and safety laws in the US. They will drop in occasionally as well for a spot inspection. However, due to the nature of repetitive assembly line work, there is just no way to get around the repetitive work injuries. There are "torque bars" on many of the guns used to run in screws and bolts that counter the torquing action of the gun as it secures the fastener. There are balancers that suspend the heavier guns at work level so that the worker doesn't have to deal with the full weight of the gun all day long. There are many ergonomic practices in place on the line for many things, however it is the shear number of repetitions of the exact same motions that eat at your body. One way to experience this is to perform this action: Go to your garage or work bench, wherever you have a typical hammer that you use at home. Now, hold it in your hand the way you normally would. Now extend your arm with the hammer straight out in front of you, hold it there for a 2 count, then raise it upward to a 45 degree angle, then back in front of you again, then put it back down to your side. Do this slowly, and do it 500 times, always with the same arm. Then tomorrow, do it another 500 times with the same arm. Oh, you also have to walk 20 feet as you do this, then walk back 20 feet to start again, each time. (When I work a 350 vehicle shift this 20 feet in both directions works out to 2.65 miles a day.) I don't know how many assembly lines build 500 vehicles a shift, if any, but then again you are not performing the 8 other operations that would be on your job either, all done 350 - 400 times a day. Hey, that hammer isn't so heavy, is it? :evil3: If anyone does the above exercise I believe when you start the second day the repetitive injury potential will be pretty well understood. It really is hard to explain to anyone that has not worked on an assembly line. It's not a real hard task, it is doing 8 things exactly the same way 400 times a day, 2,000 times a week. Steve
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Anybody try my work example above yet???
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Yes.
Well in a different way. I'm a geologist and I spend my time in the field panning and logging samples. We'll drill between 200-400 metres in a day, which is 150-300 samples. Each sample has to: 1. Be panned to wash off clay and test for heavy mineral (takes 2 minutes) 2. Logged according to washability, colour, grain size, lithology, heavy mineral percentage. 3. Samples which are good have to go to the lab. 4. Standard and duplicate samples have to be collected (QAQC) 5. After the hole is drilled, between 500-750 kg of sand has to be shovelled back down the hole, raked over, and made pretty. And then at the end of the day I get a helicopter ride back to the camp, where I listen to people whinging about not having any ham, when we're 400km from the nearest shop. So yeah I understand your pain. But I actually love my job. So yeah, I'm certifiable. |
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Sort of Steve. Every day at work I must carry timber for customers to be cut. While the amounts vary, it is usually MDF skirting boards, and for examples sake, let's say it's a mid size board, at the standard length of 5.4 meters. 90x19 single bevelled. Let's say I have to carry 10 every 10 minutes to the cross saw 30 metres from my work station. Cut. Travel back with cut pieces and load. As averages go I would do this every 10 minutes, 10 boards, all day. On my shoulder. I'm skinny and have next to 0 muscle mass. After a year I feel stronger, as well as physically depleted. My shoulder has permanent rash and cuts from the weight of the timber, as well as not as much movement as I used to have. And it's only been 1.5 years there! Imagine 30!
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There was an E8 Lincoln Flagship Sedan slated for 2012, but I haven't heard anymore about it. It could be. Hey guys, you know what repetition is. I am talking about anyone that does not have a job that involves repetition. Rocks and timber is rough work! Steve
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Where are all the doubters now?
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While others spun their stories and put on a brave face, Ford has meticulously but deliberately set to work. They have put together the business plans for each model, and went to market with that product on its merits. GRWD may not have been a priority, but as the world economy improves and Ford get's all its ducks in a row, well then we will see what the Falcon can do....globally...
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Those guys are also speculating that Ford might build Falcon in the US and export to Oz. At the outset, not ideal for us.
But what if the Falcon based Lincoln is actually a revival of the LWB model, that was apparently fully designed during FG development but not rolled out? I think Oz could swallow importing an LWB FG from the US if it meant we kept SWB production - although the relevance to a Wagon replacement is cloudy. You could assume that ADR approval would be valid across both variants if the basics were the same, and that parts and servicing would already be in place. With LH engineering also applicable to SWB versions, that might open up export opportunities for the performance models out of Australia in to LWB markets. So either Oz becomes SWB build only for both RHD and LHD, or Oz becomes RHD build only for both SWB and LWB. Those are my two takes on it. Given Ford Oz's success at the top end of the model spectrum in '09, it makes me wonder if they might be well served to provide for additional poducts at (or above) that level - and I mean G6ET here. I've often thought that Ford really needed a 'Premium' brand in Australia. Given the commonality of parts and components, it could be a good time to bring the Lincoln brand to Australia on the back of a US Built LWB Falcon - assuming the Lincoln guys really can make a difference to perceived quality. Remember that it's the LWB Commodore that is being presented for US Cop Car duty. A LWB Falcon based Continental 'Interceptor' fits that mould too. Lukeyson
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Also makes you start to wonder what Burela really was talking about when he was suggesting AWD was on the horizon?
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1. I don't see Australian's identifying with a Lincoln. (after all Holdens big selling point is that they're Australian*) 2. Are we big enough to support another brand? Other than that, US support on the Falcon can mean great things.
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True. Certainly bringing Cadillac into the country has been problematic. And Lincoln is not perceived to be as up market as Cadillac in the US - a preconception that Australia may well not suffer. With Ford selling off it's 'outsourced' prestige brands, it's left with a bit of a hole here in Australia in that market.
But were we big enough for Lexus? Are we big enough to bring back Nissan's Infinity brand which I've heard is rumoured to be happening? Are we big enough to bring over all those new Chinese brands? I tend to think that one of the reasons that people are moving to European brands is the snob factor - something that a Cadillac or Lincoln product portfolio could cater too. Whether the US brands are snobbish enough is the real question. But the other positive - if they are doing the development work to fit the 3.5 Ecoboost in the US, Australia would get a free kick in that regard, although I too don't want to see the end of engine production in Australia. Suddenly Burela's decision to keep the I6 for a few more years now looks like a piece of genius in that he now has someone else doing the expensive R&D work for him - what the heck was the previous guy thinking? Lukeyson
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Wow.
Photoshopped or real? This seems deserving of a new thread, it's almost buried in here. http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11284553 Lukeyson
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http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/12/s...ps-production/
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http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/14/r...-company-ceos/
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Awesome
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http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Ford-S....html?x=0&.v=1
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At our plant where we build the Econoline (E-series) full sized van we still have not heard what our next vehicle will be. We have been getting some good fleet orders and have also had some customers come back to the brand. The company is looking at an increase in line speed next year, which means even more units to be built. I believe production is supposed to end in 2015, but sometimes I hear sooner.
Of course there are plenty of rumors going around the plant, but they are just that. I did see some pictures of the new Transit and it has some subtle Econoline touches to it. I am thinking that is to give it a little more American look to it for our market, to make it more acceptable in appearance to Americans, otherwise it looked too much like the Dodge Sprinter, which is a rebadged Mercedes. I haven't been hearing anything about GRWD. It's almost too quiet, which could mean they are intentionally not talking about it, but that is purely my own speculation. As for EcoBoost engines, you ain't seen nothing yet! Steve
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More to JPFS1 post.
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