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Old 05-11-2005, 10:32 AM   #31
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Totaly agree Bindi.
Not like it use to be.......just a fad these days it seems.
I feel for the ex fella, but really, he will move on and look back and with a huge dept and think how much of a dick he was. If I owned the BMW, you would love to pay back the bloke, but these days it seems to hurt an individual more by sueing them through the courts. As for taking it out on the car instead of the fella...........you can replace/fix a car, but can't replace extreme pshyical damage to ones body, that will last a life time.
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:43 AM   #32
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BINDI SO WROTE:-
"His" denotes ownership...

I feel very strongly about this issue. People are breaking up at an incredible rate. Marriage is not working for us, and we're all getting more violent, angry and downright nasty about it.

Yes, and one of the reasons is that marriage has become 'marketed', those who are not truely committed go the throws...

If that's his ex wife, and she sleeps with someone else, it is no longer any of his business. It has nothing to do with him. She is no longer with him. He has no right to be jealous or angry.

Whilst true, sometimes a partner will dangle a string keeping the other on emotional tenderhooks, often for many reasons, the one being fished is liable to an outburst, this level of outburst depends on the individual and the circumstances.

Finding your wife in bed with another is for some 'pretty hard to manage'.




This month's Men's Health has an article about marriage and our options as a society. Has anyone else read it? Because he's almost saying what I have been saying for a few years now (kinda spooky lol).

What are the 'options' discussed? I see no reason for academic 'Relationship Certificates' or that sort of defacto license.


Jealousy and possession have no place in a relationship. There are two people involved, and societal standards have dictated marital "bliss" for too many years. I say we do should start to do things differently... who says we should be monogamous? Who says we should get married? Who says we should claim ownership of someone else, isn't that emotional abuse?!


I agree, people should not marry if they have within themselves a desire or thoughts of other people. The churches etc are part of the problem, its too easy to 'get married' and it for many is 'the thing that is done', and those partners often do not, - think deep enough first.

I agree jealousy and possession should have no place, this reality applies particularly if the persons 'are not too committed to each other'. The reverse of this is that some marry simply to 'police' the relationship if you will, and that is the plain wrong thing to do. Do NOT rush marriage.

Bindi, you say; 'who says we should be monogamous?' No one really, except that often, those who marry for all the wrong reasons do just that to achieve police level enforcement if you will, against straying. Simply, do not marry if you have feelings for an ex or potential other.

IF on the other hand you are not married, but are in a relationship, you should both understand that relationships parameters and should be as open and honest as possible, about who and where you stray whilst remaining respectful to the partner in that process. Communicate with the primary partner perhaps the hot detail. This all depends on the pair.


When 'being in love and love per se' ends, often over years, it is best to let the person go, deal with the trauma and grief and move on, taking time before re-entering a new relationship. This time-out for most, I'd suggest, is vital. Going into a new relationship immediately can mean the same un-realised mistakes and behavioural problems re-occurring, you really do need time to process the ended relationship and to better yourself, you owe yourself that much at least.

I'd tend to remember the good, regret the bad, and if you *really* loved the person to begin with, you must take a deep-breath and set them free, you are afterall not really wanting to make them miserable. I for one cannot stand crying women, again let them go.


Sure, anger and hurt are all part of the process. Take no personal offence that your partner wants out, sometimes love just goes that way. I myself have had to let a lady go, I loved her enough to let her go, I take comfort knowing she is safe and has bettered me as a person in our time and we do remain friends. One should not in the end-game generally reveal 'personal' details about a relationship to mates, so as to create 'ridicule' or 'crude-entertainment' to that persons detriment.

Love them, but do set them free.
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:49 AM   #33
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Just the one question Keepleft! Did you have to search afar to find a marital bed with Euro Standard Triangles as standard equipment? :
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:55 AM   #34
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Just the one question Keepleft! Did you have to search afar to find a marital bed with Euro Standard Triangles as standard equipment? :
Im not sure the triangle would be the right equipment.

Correct safety equipment should be the following.

1 x Men at work sign
3 x witches hat around protrusion
4 x witches hat around hole
1 x Greg... who will be leaning on his shovel giving advice during the session
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Need triangles if one of you breaks down half way through..


Possibly a "slippery when wet" sign too???
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Old 05-11-2005, 11:59 AM   #36
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Im not sure the triangle would be the right equipment.

Correct safety equipment should be the following.

1 x Men at work sign
3 x witches hat around protrusion
4 x witches hat around hole
1 x Greg... who will be leaning on his shovel giving advice during the session
Ah you've tapped into that of ultimate suburban fantasies! A night in with the girl you love and your mates around to watch!!
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Old 05-11-2005, 12:05 PM   #37
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You guys arent safe at all!

After completing a JSA on the area you will need more signage, being "Hard Helmet Area", "Concealed Driveway", "No entry-wrong way go back", and if the workers are low to the work area there will have to be some Load Limit restrictions too
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RED EL: - Yeah good one. I was thinking a LOVE TRIANGLE!

SOURBASTARD: - I like the men at work sign, some of the more attractive sex certainly have 'many', not in any of my experiences but...

NB and OT lesson: NEVER terminate a child by a lady you genuinely love by pressure, pressuring her that 'now is not the time', 'work', and 'what will family think' and like argument - does not add up to appropriateness. You will regret seriously that move. A lady that goes through this dramatic event on spurious grounds *for you* will surely set herself free. You too will come to realise your loss, bloody horrible, be very careful.

That said, I do remain for a 'womans right to choose', as much as I hate the whole thing.
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SOURBASTARD: - I like the men at work sign, some of the more attractive sex certainly have 'many', not in any of my experiences but...
We are talking about women right?
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Sourbastard, yes, some women have many men working on them......

I know I know...
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Sourbastard, yes, some women have many men working on them......

I know I know...
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What are the 'options' discussed? I see no reason for academic 'Relationship Certificates' or that sort of defacto license.

Bindi, you say; 'who says we should be monogamous?' No one really, except that often, those who marry for all the wrong reasons do just that to achieve police level enforcement if you will, against straying. Simply, do not marry if you have feelings for an ex or potential other.

IF on the other hand you are not married, but are in a relationship, you should both understand that relationships parameters and should be as open and honest as possible, about who and where you stray whilst remaining respectful to the partner in that process. Communicate with the primary partner perhaps the hot detail. This all depends on the pair.
Hey, wow... I agree on most points!

I will find the article I mentioned if you are interested and give you a rundown via PM perhaps.

The problem with marriage is that you start off crazy about each other, and think there is not going to be anyone else in your life who you will feel this way about, EVER. It's like a blindness. There is now a common word for this period, it's called Limerance and lasts around 6-24 months according to research.

It's after this time when things cool down, you get into a routine and discover things that you didn't notice before. Like the way he leaves the toothpaste tube lid off. Or the way she never checks the oil. Or the way he never replaces the toilet paper. Or the way she cleans the house just in case someone drops by to visit.

The little things turn into big things, each blames the other, and the anger and resentment builds then BANG.

People don't talk enough. They set limits on the other's behaviour by guilt or emotional blackmail. "You make me so angry when you leave your dirty socks on the floor" for example - nobody's making the person feel anything they don't want to feel. It is the person's issue, they can choose to feel angry or choose to feel calm.

Anyway, I'm getting a bit too OT and I'm sure I've said enough.

I like the sign "Hard Helmet Area" lmfao!!! :

And for most men, wouldn't the sign be "Speed Hump Ahead"???!!!
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And for most men, wouldn't the sign be "Speed Hump Ahead"???!!!

Most of the more educated of us , just hope to hell its "U-Turn Permitted"!
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Nah you guys want "Access All Areas"... :
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Nah you guys want "Access All Areas"... :
damn right he does.....

you two will make a beautiful couple.
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Red and I... I can see it now...

AAAAHHHHH!!! SHOOT ME IN THE HEAD, RUN ME OVER, SCRATCH OUT MY EYES - ANYTHING TO GET RID OF THE IMAGES!!! PLEASE DEAR GOD!!!
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imagine the children.
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please no, for the love of everything good and proper lets stop here
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Red and I... I can see it now...
I sure as hell cant!

Red surrounds himself with burning triangles, sleeps with one eye open, a loaded shottie by his bed!
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I've been sleeping with someone elses wife for 8 years... House, cars, 3 kids and he still wont sign the divorce papers... I know we could get it sorted but I don't really care.
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he gets a new car and she goes to jail, purfect ending
i guess someone is gettn a M3 engine and box chaep
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I've been sleeping with someone elses wife for 8 years... House, cars, 3 kids and he still wont sign the divorce papers... I know we could get it sorted but I don't really care.
You just wanna keep banging her without the responsibility?!
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You just wanna keep banging her without the responsibility?!
HA...! That feeling left me when we had our first kid... Just for the record though... They'd been separated for 2.5 years when I came along... Honestly your worship...
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So Bluefreak - to clarify, you've been sleeping with her 8 years, and they had been seperated or 'on the rocks' two years prior to the eight?

Do you honestly love the lady? Would you give your life for her?

Some folk are reluctant to end the marriage officially, perhaps with time.

Do you get along with his kids? Are you prepared to accept them? Children are generally a woman's first love, be assured.

Society is filled with stories of hideous step-fathers, don't be one of them.

Is the husband moving on or just fighting to keep his family, or other? Concerns of a love-triangle here, this is not suited to emergency roadway use:-)
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Concerns of a love-triangle here, this is not suited to emergency roadway use:-)
Love triangles are easy.

A rhombus of hatred, now they take some hard work to maintain.
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So Bluefreak - to clarify, you've been sleeping with her 8 years, and they had been seperated or 'on the rocks' two years prior to the eight?

Do you honestly love the lady? Would you give your life for her?

Some folk are reluctant to end the marriage officially, perhaps with time.

Do you get along with his kids? Are you prepared to accept them? Children are generally a woman's first love, be assured.

Society is filled with stories of hideous step-fathers, don't be one of them.

Is the husband moving on or just fighting to keep his family, or other? Concerns of a love-triangle here, this is not suited to emergency roadway use:-)
8 years? I'm thinking they are in love
Oh, and I think you will find there HIS KIDS.
Why are you intent on play "Dr Ruth"?? Geez, he was having a laugh at himself.. Get a bloody sense of humour for god sakes! :
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