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AU Falcon Man
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I know this has been covered a million times but some of the main things have never been answered, I changed my AU3 Forte cluster to a AU3 Fairmont Ghia Cluster today, all working great, only thing is that i dont have a trip meter as the high series have it in the climate control? and havn't wired up the individual door ajar and the washer fluid senser
all the tec docs around give basic instruction on upgrading a series 1 and just say change this these pins, not very easy to understand the instructions for series 1 are pretty much the same for 2/3 with one of the wires changing colour but all pin locations staying the same The following wires need to be moved around, in order for the Mid/High Cluster to function correctly, 1. The Park Lamp Dial (+ Positive) Illumination needs to be moved from Pin 13 to Pin 2. - Brown 2. The Dial Negative Dimmer Illumination needs to be moved from Pin 21 to Pin 3. - Light Blue / Red 3. The ABS Warning Lamp Wire needs to be moved from Pin 8 to Pin 23 - Orange/Black 4. The R.H. Side Indicator wire needs to be moved from Pin 19 to Pin 26 - Green / Light Blue (Series 1 is White / Light Blue) (Using the Photo Below) The Pin numbers start from bottom right and go in a U shape to the top right spread over the 2 connections, so a total of 28 pins one connection has 8 pins (that does not exist on base model wiring) and the other has 20 pins this photos is of the back of a AU3 Fairmont Ghia Cluster with a AU3 Forte Wiring loom, with the pins removed from the connection ![]()
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AU Falcon Man
Join Date: Jun 2007
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correction... i do have a trip meter, but no dte...
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DTE will be found on the left hand side of the climate control display.
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On a Forte? Don't think so. In fact I'm pretty sure you won't even find CC display.
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Yeah, all AU Falcons came with DTE, however, the Fairlane and the T-Series except T3TE had it displayed in the centre console along with the climate control and fuel usage displays. The Forte, XR and T3TE all had it on the dash cluster.
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The Monty
Join Date: Oct 2007
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also all fairmonts had it on the climate control, all series
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AU Falcon Man
Join Date: Jun 2007
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so mine being a forte with a ghia cluster, it no longer displays dte, still beeps when low on fuel. i wonder how harrd it would be to wire up the climate contol screen (just to display fuel usage etc.)
just had a look at the wiring diagram of the cluster and the nothing special the there... just door open wires etc...
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im sorry for hijacking the thread mate ive got an au2 futura does this mean i could use the au2 monty cluster, as i crave the oil and volts metres?
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Yep, that is correct, either 'mont or XR cluster will go in, just need to change pin locations etc according to diagram, and then either get Ford to disable the Rad and Washer level lights or connect the sensors
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i have a line on an XR cluster & am keen to do this |
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Ok, ive got an AU series 1 forte, and i plugged in a series 3 fairlane cluster and everything worked minus seperate door open function, the illumination and the dimming function.
In the docs on here and on ford mods it says that you have to change your oil pressure swith to a sensor, yet i get oil pressure reading on the gauge. Guy that i bought it off used to work for ford a told me that all the AU oil senders where the same, just on low series when the voltage reaches a certain point it switches the oil warning light on. Is this corect? seems to be the case with my 99 au anyway. |
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I know this has been covered a million times but some of the main things have never been answered, I changed my AU3 Forte cluster to a AU3 Fairmont Ghia Cluster today, all working great, only thing is that i dont have a trip meter as the high series have it in the climate control? and havn't wired up the individual door ajar and the washer fluid senser
all the tec docs around give basic instruction on upgrading a series 1 and just say change this these pins, not very easy to understand the instructions for series 1 are pretty much the same for 2/3 with one of the wires changing colour but all pin locations staying the same The following wires need to be moved around, in order for the Mid/High Cluster to function correctly, 1. The Park Lamp Dial (+ Positive) Illumination needs to be moved from Pin 13 to Pin 2. - Brown 2. The Dial Negative Dimmer Illumination needs to be moved from Pin 21 to Pin 3. - Light Blue / Red 3. The ABS Warning Lamp Wire needs to be moved from Pin 8 to Pin 23 - Orange/Black 4. The R.H. Side Indicator wire needs to be moved from Pin 19 to Pin 26 - Green / Light Blue (Series 1 is White / Light Blue) (Using the Photo Below) The Pin numbers start from bottom right and go in a U shape to the top right spread over the 2 connections, so a total of 28 pins one connection has 8 pins (that does not exist on base model wiring) and the other has 20 pins this photos is of the back of a AU3 Fairmont Ghia Cluster with a AU3 Forte Wiring loom, with the pins removed from the connection ![]()
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did you heatshrink them yet?
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Thanks for your comments as I have done this job, it does help. UK
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Starter Motor
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just wondering do you SWAP the pins over or move them into new position and remove other wires
also do i need the second connector for the cluster? i have an au2 2001 with base cluster and replacing with a fairmont/fairlane cluster and need help. photos of before and after would be a huge help |
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This is what I did with some pics. Its not a full how to however. Mine was an AUII low to high series. http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11319816 UK
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Starter Motor
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aha now i got it am going to do it tonight see how i go
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Starter Motor
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yes it is in and workin just gotta get radiator coolant low light to stop flashin
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AU Falcon Man
Join Date: Jun 2007
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One annoying thing i about a high series cluster and low series dash it you lose you DTE, but it still beeps at 80kms to empty every time you start the car etc you just cant reset it (you have to wait for it to finish beeping, which feels like 5 minutes)... the fix for that is to fit a high series dash ![]() Cheers Cam
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jul 2011
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dont really want dte anyway
the low washer level light disappears but not the low coolant level light. a sensor needs to be fitted in the car somewhere to stop it |
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you can download a doc with all the required pinouts from my server http://www.hunterit.net/cluster.doc
if you are using a S2 or 3 cluster don't change the oil sender
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AU Falcon Man
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"Layin Frame"
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Did you get the low coolant light off mate as i have the same prob and cant get rid of it????
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jul 2011
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i went and bought new coolant bottle and sensor and fitted it in had to do bit of homemade wiring cause didnt have the plug
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"Layin Frame"
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Where did you tap in the wiring???
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