LS1 Gen III in an XY??

[nugget378]

Originally Posted by agony

oh well if that wont do maybe have to try it in the other car then see if that can do the job, after all it has a ford in a ford now but that was not always the case, orginally it was setup with a blown injected 502 in it but I listened to people and took it out and replaced it with a ford

Im sure you did the right thing._2:

[agony]

Originally Posted by nugget378

Im sure you did the right thing._2:

not sure there mate, maybe read the rest of my post and come up with your own conclusion to what I think was the right thing :

[351ciofgrunt]

If you're okay with someone sticking a holden motor into the XY FALCON!! then i challenge the fact you're a ford fan at all...i agree that you might be a car enthusiast but you're not a ford fan if that sits okay with you... out:

we've obviously got different levels of blue oval hardcoreness here....as for me i'm a die hard blue oval fan that just cant handle even the thought of a holden motor anywhere near a ford...


i wont even go into the fact that you're driving a VL commodore and are on a ford forum....that one just boggles the mind :

[big_pete]

Originally Posted by 351ciofgrunt

If you're okay with someone sticking a holden motor into the XY FALCON!! then i challenge the fact you're a ford fan at all...i agree that you might be a car enthusiast but you're not a ford fan if that sits okay with you... out:

we've obviously got different levels of blue oval hardcoreness here....as for me i'm a die hard blue oval fan that just cant handle even the thought of a holden motor anywhere near a ford...

can i ask why? why is it succ a bad thing to put a chev in a ford?
hot rodders have been doing it for years
the LS1's ase good engines, or are you one of those narrow minded 'if its a holden its instantly s***' kinda people.

personally i like this car, its different, built with a purpose in mind and he justified his reasons for going with the LS1.

[Daniel351]

hate to say it but about that Mustang With the Skyline Engine ahhh Has any1 Seen "The Fast and The Furious Toko Drift" if you were planning to Beware of the Skyline Powered Mustang.

[351ciofgrunt]

Originally Posted by big_pete

can i ask why? why is it succ a bad thing to put a chev in a ford?
hot rodders have been doing it for years
the LS1's ase good engines, or are you one of those narrow minded 'if its a holden its instantly s***' kinda people.

personally i like this car, its different, built with a purpose in mind and he justified his reasons for going with the LS1.

i didnt say holdens are s%%t, i said if you like holdens then buy a holden and stick a holden motor into it....if you like fords then why would you want anything but a ford motor in it?

[Gammaboy]

Originally Posted by big_pete

can i ask why? why is it suck a bad thing to put a chev in a ford?
hot rodders have been doing it for years
the LS1's ase good engines, or are you one of those narrow minded 'if its a holden its instantly ****' kinda people.

personally i like this car, its different, built with a purpose in mind and he justified his reasons for going with the LS1.

So we'll just ignore the Piston slap then shall we?
I'm happy enough for people to do stuff to be "Different", but to go and try rationalising it all gets on my nerves.

Originally Posted by agony

not sure there mate, maybe read the rest of my post and come up with your own conclusion to what I think was the right thing :

It'd be easier to read if you could grasp the concept of punctuation and Capitalisation.

[agony]

Originally Posted by 351ciofgrunt

then i challenge the fact you're a ford fan at all... i agree that you might be a car enthusiast but you're not a ford fan :

well then it doesnt really matter as my car has an aftermarket chassis under it, A fibreglass body copied off a ford but not origanal, and yes a blown CHEV so you can say my car has nothing to do with being a FORD at all then, but just remember its my car and I can build it how I like and will continue to do so.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by 351ciofgrunt

If you're okay with someone sticking a holden motor into the XY FALCON!! then i challenge the fact you're a ford fan at all...i agree that you might be a car enthusiast but you're not a ford fan if that sits okay with you... out:

we've obviously got different levels of blue oval hardcoreness here....as for me i'm a die hard blue oval fan that just cant handle even the thought of a holden motor anywhere near a ford...


i wont even go into the fact that you're driving a VL commodore and are on a ford forum....that one just boggles the mind :

Fair enough mate, but like I said, it was harsh calling the guy a ********.

Oh I've been here for close to a year, because I like Fords just as much as Holdens, which is why I want to get a EB Fairmont for my next car. :sm_headba

[ebxr8_50ho]

Why spend all that money on panel paint and decking out the interior and then not the right motor in it to save a few bucks. Tight ****er shoud be stoned to death in a public arena. And for those who think it just be different, its not. Its just another classic that has been ruined by putting a chev in it. Burn him at the steak like they would have for such a sacreligious act in the dark ages

[[Tonko]]

Originally Posted by Gammaboy

It'd be easier to read if you could grasp the concept of punctuation and Capitalisation.

i'm no rocket scientist (sp? see,) but capitalisation does no need to be capitilised as it is not a name or beginning of a new sentence... :
but prove me wrong...as i probably am...

[Gammaboy]

Originally Posted by Tonko351

i'm no rocket scientist (sp? see,) but capitalisation does no need to be capitilised as it is not a name or beginning of a new sentence... :
but prove me wrong...as i probably am...

It was capitalised for emphasis and irony.

[Ruger]

it aint a xy anymore because a real xy wouldnt sound like a magna!
its only half an xy

[Daniel351]

I say Find out where he lives removed the engine and remove the stripes, so when he walks into his shed hes got a 350 Chev and his GT 350 Stripes sitting there

[ratter]

People have been doing all sorts of conversions for years, good on him for being different and making it all work.

The LS1 although down a little on power compared to a Boss is a lot lighter, being lighter the car will handle a lot better and also be easier to get engineered.
Look at some of the work involved to get a Boss into a XW/XY by Blue Oval Garage, maybe the owner did not want to cut the car up too much?
The owner has his own reasons for doing it, and at the end of the day, it's his car and he can do what he wants.
Regarding taking the cheap way out, read some of the posts on this forum, some guys will only use second hand parts to keep their cars running :

I personally think the car would be great, reliable, good on fuel if driven easy, plenty of power in a light car, and something that could be driven everyday

[Auslandau]

I know of a 351 going into a 77 statesman. Number plates ordered GM 351. Suppose can go both ways. Resale value of the XY though for the amount of work done would be bugger all........couldnt & wouldnt



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[protd]

maybe those 2 should get together who knows they might end up driving home with the correct engine

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by agony

i will be in that nick, i got small block CHEV in my coupe we will see what happens.

I'm up for it, you putting a cage in the Rod ?

[agony]

Not at the moment Nick, but if we go that fast that its needed it will be the next thing I add.

[xr8man83]

: somfin different alrite wot crap the blokes a joke how could he do it makes me sick

[MAFIA]

Originally Posted by montyv8

"A carbie 351 is too heavy on the front end and the alloy Ford Motorsport gear is too pricey. I built the XY when BA was only just released, so forget about sourcing a BOSS 290 V8 cheaply. Bar the turbo six, Ford hasn't got an engine that provides the Chev's bang for bucks. The chev will do 400 horses for just five grand"

But even after all the excuses, it's still a LS1 in an XY :(

You can easily pick up a smash up XR6T or XR8 for 5 to 10k at Auction. Use all the running gear and interior if ya like to the XY and still make money selling the leftover parts. Doesn't matter which side of the fence you look at Ford or GM motorsport gear is always gonna be pricey. This guys has not done his homework properly. :

But in the west here Jap turbo 6 are very popular modification for the 70's & 80's model commodore and old school monaro aswell. While some skyline and supras owners are putting GM and Ford V8 powerplant in these cars. Very different world we live in if you ask me!

[nugget378]

Originally Posted by agony

not sure there mate, maybe read the rest of my post and come up with your own conclusion to what I think was the right thing :

Thats exactly what I did,came up with my own conclusion as to how I wanted it written : ,Im in denial I guess.:

[Bossxr8]

Why put 350 GT stickers on it when its only 346 cubes. He can't even get that right. Where's my gun at. out:

[Walkinshaw]

Originally Posted by agony

Not at the moment Nick, but if we go that fast that its needed it will be the next thing I add.

Haha, if, give me a break

You could say the car has done exactly what the guy set out to do.....stir the pot

[Mutley]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Why put 350 GT stickers on it when its only 346 cubes. He can't even get that right. Where's my gun at. out:

WRONG!

Whilst the piston displacement is 346 cubes, most LS1's bore x stroke dimensions calculate to 350 cubes. The remaining 4 cubes is made up of piston slap (oops clearance) and the outer piston oil gallery!

[naxh96]

and to think i was safe after watching fast and furious tokyo drift. now i thought i'd witnessed the worst sacrilege i'd ever known to ford after the way that mustang was disrespected, but then i come home to st machine and i get blasted in the face. stir the pot he did, and bless him for his wow factor. purists of both sides of the battle are spinning out, but i would like to know how moffat and brockie feel about such a build. wonder which colour the fan would be wearing who throws the rock in front of this falcon around the track?

[WASP]

Well after seeing the car in the magazine for myself I can say that it's a beautiful well engineered machine from a theoretical point of view. Problem for me is I take my passion for cars way beyond the theory like many here do. You could tell me how good this thing is, justifying your case with theory, physics and logic but it all means nothing in this case. The GT brings together and represents the very thing that the Ford enthusiast community love about the brand and what it means to them. Placing a Chev V8 of all things in that car presented in GT form I just find absolutely heart breaking. It's like a best friend that you just don't know or recognise anymore. I'm sorry, I'm impressed with the engineering and effort but as a Ford Fan I find this car insults all my senses.

My apologies in advance to the owner.

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by Mutley

WRONG!

Whilst the piston displacement is 346 cubes, most LS1's bore x stroke dimensions calculate to 350 cubes. The remaining 4 cubes is made up of piston slap (oops clearance) and the outer piston oil gallery!

Which is interesting because with the LS1 bore, 3.897", and the stroke, 3.622" you get 345.6 ci. That's 346.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by naxh96

and to think i was safe after watching fast and furious tokyo drift. now i thought i'd witnessed the worst sacrilege i'd ever known to ford after the way that mustang was disrespected, but then i come home to st machine and i get blasted in the face. stir the pot he did, and bless him for his wow factor. purists of both sides of the battle are spinning out, but i would like to know how moffat and brockie feel about such a build. wonder which colour the fan would be wearing who throws the rock in front of this falcon around the track?

I actually posted up a thread on the GT, with the LS1 on SC.com and the reactions were pretty surprising too be honest.

http://forum.streetcommodores.com.au....php?t=8474464

[TZENU]

Its like we are all living as One.... personally stupid choice.. but hey if it blows his skirt than i say good on him.....

But let me ask you this. If he wanted to join a club would it be a holden club or a ford club??? supposing there where no mixed clubs around.