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Old 26-06-2007, 11:52 PM   #91
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I had a mate who went down to picton tunnels one night off his face with a White bedsheet and a Machette. Put on the bedsheet, hid in the tunnels and everytime someone wandered near he ran out waving the machette and screaming.
Does that count? :P
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Old 27-06-2007, 01:28 AM   #92
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Thought i would post a few pictures of a couple of Orb's i managed to capture on film a few months ago at Fremantle Prison
Mate that place is nuts. I remember a youth group outing we went to Fremantle Prison Halloween Night tour and what a scary night it was.

*First one when we started going upstairs to second level when i was the last in the group, someone holding onto my ankle and wouldn't let me go! i look down and no one there as he release me. I ask the tour guide and he said that one of the dead prisioner hanging on too you.

*The lady chapel room has the back part as a play room. While listening to the tour guide we were interupted by violent noise of a group of lady in the back area of the room. This went on for a minute and then dead silent! some of the tourist were too freak out and left the room.

*Some people were seeing figures, hearing foot step, feel something walk past you. And some strange cries as if they are about to hung! freaky.

People in perth do a candlight night tour in Freamntle prison and the Fremantle Art Gallery cross the road as the place is just as huanted.


Come on post more ghost story up guys as they are interesting to hear!
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Old 27-06-2007, 02:34 AM   #93
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I'm also a Christian and have seen a few demons. I also believe that they pretend to be relatives etc to lure us away from a belief in God. GK


Some here may find it hard to believe, but I'm a Christian also...and damn proud of it too : . I have never seen a demon but my mother has said, she has quite a few experinces with them. She is a really religious christian and I was brought up in the enviroment. The demon spirits are very sneaky and will lure those that are most vulnerable. Demon spirits are their to frighten, scare and manipulate those unto false beliefs. That is their job. They are real, and hell is real. I've made my choice.... :




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Off topic people. We are talking about Ghosts, mythical creatures etc. Which do go hand in hand with Jesus .
Well they both wear big white sheets.

In that and respecting peoples rights to believe, i think the thread could go down hill fast if we don't stick to casper the ghosts.
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Some here may find it hard to believe, but I'm a Christian also...and damn proud of it too : .

The demon spirits are very sneaky and will lure those that are most vulnerable. Demon spirits are their to frighten, scare and manipulate those unto false beliefs. That is their job. They are real, and hell is real. I've made my choice.... : Cheers
Great to know you're proud of it! Awesome.

I agree totally with your statement about spirits being sneaky and manipulative. That is indeed their job.

I too believe hell is real and have made my choice.

On that topic though, I wonder how many here posting and reading this thread, think that we're nuts? I also wonder how many think we're quite narrow minded in our view of such supernatural activity? I ask such questions because I think they're directly relevant to our view and assertion; that ghosts and such are demons trying to lure and trick people into thinking that the afterlife, other realm, spirit world etc, etc, doesn't need to include God and Jesus.

A few questions worth considering I reckon.

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Old 27-06-2007, 08:47 AM   #96
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I believe in ghosts, spirits, all that. And others reading this thread that dont probly think we are crazy! They will come running back if they experiance something like these stories. This thread is so interesting....Keep it on topic and POST MORE GHOST STORIES GUYS
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Old 27-06-2007, 09:58 AM   #97
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I went on a ghost tour at the Manly Quarantine Sataion one night back in April last year.

We went into the Morgue where we had a few little volt metter things that aparantly were to show that a spirt was around.

The tour guide said is there someone behind me? One of the girls in the group said i dont want to answer that.
Behind the guide was an open window that led into the room next door where the bodies were prepared to be buried. I ran up and shined the torch into a dark room.
Nothing was seen. The guide said to me:
'i know you want to see a ghost, but if you witnessed one, you really wished you hadnt'

I felt as though being in a morgue with no lights on at 10.30pm was strange enough! That alone would make you feel uneasy feel as though there is a some spirits around.

I didnt see or fell anything freaky that night, but i do believe in ghosts and the paranormal.

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Old 27-06-2007, 10:04 AM   #98
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Did she actually grab you?
Definately, but it was an etheric grab, with alot of emotive power involved.

Saw the other video posted. The one where the supposed ghost walks across the road is actually some crap on the bloke's windscreen, that clip wasn't the clearest I'd ever seen of it. The rest though are OK.

Liked the one of the small entity with it's strange looking way it held it arms. When you get an exaggerated look to a ghost/spirit say, elongated features, these are entities who come from the 'inbetween world' that exists between our world 3D and 4Dimensions. It contains those who are trapped for whatever reason. The so called poltergeist vids show what happens when these types are released. They contain a large amount of latent power, are very frustrated and have a knack for making up for lost time being caught up in purgatory world.

That's why you never use ouija boards in any form. That what the one vid alluded to. When you make contact with 4D with these things, you have to go through the 'inbetween world' first. If your connection isn't good, so to speak then you drag all sorts of crap down from that area. Trouble is, you think you have only one bad ghost/entity when you actually have multiple, which is far more common than people think.

A few said about the jail tours. I've always wanted to go along on one of these to bust whatever is there out, so they don't have any stuff for the woo woo's to pay to go and see. Trouble is, I'd get spotted walking around with a gold plated 8 inch power wand, and no that's not a sex joke in the making - it's a legit tool/device.
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Old 27-06-2007, 10:57 AM   #99
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Great to know you're proud of it! Awesome.

I agree totally with your statement about spirits being sneaky and manipulative. That is indeed their job.

I too believe hell is real and have made my choice.

On that topic though, I wonder how many here posting and reading this thread, think that we're nuts? I also wonder how many think we're quite narrow minded in our view of such supernatural activity? I ask such questions because I think they're directly relevant to our view and assertion; that ghosts and such are demons trying to lure and trick people into thinking that the afterlife, other realm, spirit world etc, etc, doesn't need to include God and Jesus.

A few questions worth considering I reckon.

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Yep, +1 to the think your all nuts, lol!

Has anyone seen a movie about a bunch of armish people, where the elders convince all the youngers that theres a spirit monster in the woods who will kill them if they go outside the boundaries, I think it was called "The Village", and the reason they do it was to keep the youngers well behaved.

The movie sucked, but it explains my point of view quite well. ghosts, spirits, deamons etc etc are things that some smart king or parent made up years ago to keep others inline, and someone believed it, the belief grew and spread and lived on untill today.

Another good example is santa clause, easter bunny and tooth fairy. we all believed they were real too, and why???? because they seemed plausible at the time, and we had no reason to doubt what we were told, and they were all also used as excuses to keep us in line. we would probably all still believe they were real too if the chocolate/money/pressents didnt stop comming. the only reason we know theyr fake is we grew up, and had to become the easterbunny/santa/tooth fairy ourselfes.

These santa myths were floored (even though st nick was a real person), as the myths were easily busted, but there are plenty of spirit, angel deamon, ghost myths that exiist which were just more well thought out when they were created, which cannot so easily be disprooven, or grown out of, these are no more plausible than santa.

When nature takes a step outside our understanding of the laws of physics, its very easy to say "that was a ghost" as a way to justify what happened, and the difference between believing an orb on a photo to be aghost, and not believing it is knowledge. if you know that water on the lense will cause the orb - you dont believe, if you didnt know that, you believe.

knowege, or the lack of is what defines the beliefs of many

well, IMO anyway.
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As mentioned there is room for everyone to believe what they want but, if others were to write what they felt then there would be an all out war on the forum as people would get hurt or offended by others beliefs, and they could be as real as other peoples beliefs.

Religion or going into god this and hell that will cause sooner rather than later people to get into an arguement.

I will not respond to the posts in that if i did people may not like what i wrote, even though they are my beliefs and if i can leave them off then it is unfair that others may post their views.

Speaking of religion per say, i read in the paper in the last week or so, that one of the major churches has condemd fast cars as bad and the devils work and that they now must drive normal cars, in that i would expect some forum members to sell thier rides and buy XT's.
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What did people do about ghosts, demons etc before Jesus?

Had a friend in high school that claimed he could see/listen to ghosts. He also said some things (that Christians might call 'demons') that were simply things that fed off energy - nothing particularly malevolent about them other than needing a food source. Reckons they looked like green blobs.

Had some funky experiences with ouija boards, but otherwise nothing that ghost-y.
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Old 27-06-2007, 12:27 PM   #102
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i dont know if my house has a ghost but on several ocassions i have woken up in the middle of the night to see the shape of a person standing next to the bed. I dont know if its just my mind playing tricks on me cos, when i see it i crap myself and become wide awake, once im wide awake its gone.
I thought i must have been dremaing but it has happened a few times.

On another occasion my girlfriend woke up to see someone kneeling next to the bed, she thought it was me but then she found me asleep next to her.

So far thats about all we've experianced, the house is rather old and very drafty, so if i hear noises at night i usually put it down the wind or our puppy.

Im a sceptic when it comes to anything supernatural, so i can decide whether it has all been my mind playing tricks when i am half awake.
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Back to the Fremantle Prison, the Noose Room scared the crap out of me. I was there January '05, on a day tour. I don't scare easily, however seeing the Noose, the Rope and the lone chair, I had to back out of the room quick smart. The Chapel wasn't so bad, but the Staircase going towards the Chapel was interesting.

I don't know whether it was because of any Spirit (Apparently there are some), but because I was uneasy about entering the room in the first place.

As a Venturer (Scouts), I slept overnight in the Manly Quarantine Station, and only slept for an hour. Never been so scared. I've also done an overnight stay in the Hyde Park Barracks when I was at school. That wasn't so bad, however I was only 10.
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On with the stories!

My next two appearances pretty much closes all of my ghostly experiences up.

The first one is a dark figure I saw on the side of the road in the early evening. I was a teenager at the time and was riding my bike past it. I'm certain that it was a ghost, as the shape was a human shape form, standing in front of a field with a waist height wire fence.

The reason I thought the figure was strange, is because it was pure black - absolutely no light bounced from it whatsoever. Objects around it were lighter in colour, whereas this seemed to reflect no light at all.

The 2nd story is "the" ghost story for me, as far as i'm concerned...but its a little difficult to explain.

I was with my girlfriend, around the same period in my life, in the passenger seat of her ED Falcon. We were sitting in Toowong Cemetery in Brisbane, driving along slowly at night. Two of our friends were in the back. For some reason at this stage in our lives, we thought it would be really cool to go to cemeteries at night - just to see if you'd see anything, probably.

Anyway, we are driving along and jump on the brakes. We were about to enter the supposed murder lane, where a lot of murderers have been buried. Me and my girlfriend were too freaked out to go further, so our friends in the back walked down the lane on foot.

We sat there looking at each other, thinking how crazy they were... when I started staring at my girlfriends face. Something wasn't, right. As I looked into her face, I saw her face change, with her eyes turning into evil looking angry eyes, around them was a faint colour of purple. Remember it was dark, so the transition wasn't too obvious until it had happened. I can remember as clear as day the thought in my head "She wants to kill me".

In that instant, I screamed and pushed myself against the door - as if to get away from her. At the very same second, she did the same exact same thing. She saw my face turn a bluey-green, my eyes appearing as if they were lifeless and dead.

She stood on the horn to get our friends back and got the hell out of there!!

The way I look at it is that whatever happened, if it was one or two spirits I have no idea - but I reckon that a woman drowned her boyfriend/husband and was showing us....haven't figured out why she was dead though.

But I can never forget that feeling. I had never felt like someone wanted me dead or wished so much harm on me like that ever before.

We have never been back to that cemetery and have avoided cemeteries since...and that was a good 7years ago or so now.
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Good question!

Pray to God.
Jesus has been around since day dot too of course! LOL! Just not in human flesh like 2000 years ago.

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I also believe that they pretend to be relatives etc to lure us away from a belief in God.
George, can you just clear up for me exactly what it is you're saying. Are you saying your belief is that ALL spirits are demons?
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Had a friend in high school that claimed he could see/listen to ghosts. He also said some things (that Christians might call 'demons') that were simply things that fed off energy - nothing particularly malevolent about them other than needing a food source. Reckons they looked like green blobs.
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George, can you just clear up for me exactly what it is you're saying. Are you saying your belief is that ALL spirits are demons?
Yep Krissy, that's about it.

It's the Biblical view, which is the view I hold.

I know it probably sounds a little too simple, but it's pretty straightforward really. If demons are real and I believe they are, their role is to trick and deceive and lead people away from God.

How many stories have we read here about such activity? Stacks. I'm not saying such activity doesn't take place, clearly it does. It's just that such paranormal activity for the Christian must be caused by demonic or angelic activity, or by God (Father/Son/Holy Spirit).

If the devil is real, and I of course believe that he is, it's in his best interests to lead people astray from God. Such paranormal activity is desiged to lull people into the belief that there is a spiritual dimension to life that doesn't need to include God.

I of course think that trying to have a spiritual component to life that doesn't include Jesus is futile, but hey of course I honestly believe that, I'm a Christian after all! LOL!

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Yep Krissy, that's about it.

It's the Biblical view, which is the view I hold.

I know it probably sounds a little too simple, but it's pretty straightforward really. If demons are real and I believe they are, their role is to trick and deceive and lead people away from God.

How many stories have we read here about such activity? Stacks. I'm not saying such activity doesn't take place, clearly it does. It's just that such paranormal activity for the Christian must be caused by demonic or angelic activity, or by God (Father/Son/Holy Spirit).

If the devil is real, and I of course believe that he is, it's in his best interests to lead people astray from God. Such paranormal activity is desiged to lull people into the belief that there is a spiritual dimension to life that doesn't need to include God.

I of course think that trying to have a spiritual component to life that doesn't include Jesus is futile, but hey of course I honestly believe that, I'm a Christian after all! LOL!

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I disagree and refuse to believe that. So spirits that visit us (and yes I do believe they do) are only demons in disguise trying to lure us from God? Spirits who visit us with messages of calm and love are demons? Why would demons deliver messages of love if their purpose is to lure and deceive? Wouldn't they come through with messages of hate and hurt thus causing doubt within and winning in it's attempt to lure?

George, how can you say that they are ALL Demons. I have had experiences that have comforted me. Made me feel safe and content. Not once have I ever felt threatened or uncomfortable with any of my recent experiences. If the purpose of spirits is to lure you away from good and a belief in God, then why do they come through lovingly. A spirit that comes through and creates such peace within me tells me that's an Angel, not a Demon trying to deceive me. One trying to deceive would catch your attention with false love/false content but eventually show itself and showing you that you have had an experience with a Demon which I think would only make your love for and belief in God stronger knowing you had enough belief in your heart to turn the Demon away. One's that comes through with messages of peace etc only cannot be a Demon! They must be our Angels, our protectors, our guides...

If I had an experience that made me feel uncomfortable or scared me then yes, I would call that a Demon trying to lure me with it's trickery. But to suggest that spirit messengers of love and calm are Demons. No I'm sorry, I disagree and will never believe it. I'm not saying there is no evil. There is evil in life and after it but it's not all evil is what I believe. And I don't think I've EVER heard our priest say that Angels are Demons!
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As far as the Christian belief goes... Everything you look at, touch is an illusion.

What the devil does, he sends these spirits (demons) and they seem friendly and loving and what not, but this is the trick of the devil.

When you die, you are left in a unconscious state, unaware of whats going on. This is until of course judgement day, when Jesus returns. All believers will be taken from the Earth and sent to heaven, everyone else will be judged and of course sent to hell for all eternity.

If you believe in ghosts, and believe they are friends and family, you have been defeated by the devil.
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Oooookay..... well I havent experienced any ghost activity and am not a believer of any form of organised religion.... so how does that work?

I think maybe some people are a little too niave, simple and/or easily lead but thats just my opinion.
It is my belief that organised religion has caused more harm than good, alot of really tragic and barbaric stuff has been done in the name of a "GOD"... of which there seems to be many varients. So who's to say that Christianity is right and all the others are wrong?

Thats all I'll say on the subject.
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As far as the Christian belief goes... Everything you look at, touch is an illusion.

What the devil does, he sends these spirits (demons) and they seem friendly and loving and what not, but this is the trick of the devil.

When you die, you are left in a unconscious state, unaware of whats going on. This is until of course judgement day, when Jesus returns. All believers will be taken from the Earth and sent to heaven, everyone else will be judged and of course sent to hell for all eternity.

If you believe in ghosts, and believe they are friends and family, you have been defeated by the devil.
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I can see this thread either being locked or someone becoming extemely offended very shortly, everyone knows that religion is a very sensitive subject that alot of people hold close to their hearts, maybe we should stick to discussing the topic and not religion....


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Old 27-06-2007, 05:00 PM   #115
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As far as the Christian belief goes... Everything you look at, touch is an illusion.

What the devil does, he sends these spirits (demons) and they seem friendly and loving and what not, but this is the trick of the devil.

When you die, you are left in a unconscious state, unaware of whats going on. This is until of course judgement day, when Jesus returns. All believers will be taken from the Earth and sent to heaven, everyone else will be judged and of course sent to hell for all eternity.

If you believe in ghosts, and believe they are friends and family, you have been defeated by the devil.
And that's exactly what I don't believe. True spirits, not Demons, will push through and deliver messages. There has to be spirits other than Demons. I don't believe that every single person that crosses over, crosses into an unknown state.

Look, none of us know what happens after death. We only speculate and go on what we choose to believe. I choose to believe that we have guides. I choose to feel soothed by the thought that we have spirits watching us and that they are not Demons. I'll only find out if I'm wrong when I cross over but in the mean time I will comfort myself by choosing to believe that I am going to a better place and not going to be in lost in limbo. I want to believe that good spirits watch and guide us. I don't want to believe that when I die, I'm going to an evil place and hope that I get chosen to go to Heaven. If I believed that, I'd be afraid of dying and fear is what will allow the Devil to take me. I want to believe that someone will guide me over.

If it turns out that I'm wrong, I'll send you all evil signs LOL. Anyway, that's enough from me. Think I've said enough. This is all your fault George :

And back to ghosts now......
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Old 27-06-2007, 05:04 PM   #116
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i agree .. this thread has nothing to do with religion ... keep it on the topic of Ghost Stories ... if u dont believe in Ghost and think we are all nutters .. then why on earth did u read this thread for? ... so don't waste ur time posting something if it is negative to the experiences of others ... enough said!
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Old 27-06-2007, 05:07 PM   #117
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I have alot of things that have happened to me over the years, stuff that makes you stay awake for days on end, because you are shitting bricks that hard!

One really interesting thing that happened was when we were on a family trip in tassy, we went to the ghost tour and all that, was good. nothing special.
Got back to the hotel that night, and I felt a spirit in the room ( i know the feeling after all my experiences) we were in, it is like an ill feeling, like someone is standing right behind you nearly touching, that feeling.
anyway managed to get some sleep and found my self being the last person to wake up that morning.
Again as i was about to go down the stairs, I cuold feel the same thing, I shat my pants and decided to sprint down the stairs, for some random reason my younger brother took a photo up the stairs as i was running down on an old film camera we have. Anyway turns out when we got home and had the film developed you can see this HUGE red smoke looking stuff over my head and all behind me as i was running down the stairs. Later on my old man, who doesn't/didn't believe in that stuff told me in the morning when he was about to walk up the stairs he looked at the top, and a man was standing there with long hair, glasses and a suit, looking really sad then just faded away. So much for not believing in that stuff after you have seen it hahaha.

I would welcome anyone who is knocking us, to spend just one night at my old nursing home, I will put you in the death bed room and see how ya go for the night! :P
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Old 27-06-2007, 05:12 PM   #118
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I thought I would just add 1 more thing that has happened when i was younger.
I woke up in the middle of the night the day one of our patients passed away, this guy used to just sit in his chair in the sun room with his cigars, his old fashioned hat his suit and smoke and that was about it.
I digress, that night i woke up and was in the bottom bunk of a bed ( 3 of us boys slept in the same room ) and i saw the man standing next to my bunk and I could smell his cigars, the smell was so strong, then all of a sudden. just gone.
around the same time, i remember looking at my desk one night and saw my younger bro just sitting there pale, staring at the wall not moving. I told him to go to bed, looked at his bed, and there he was, sleeping. HA.. now that is what i called F***D up!

mate i could go on for ages about the better stuff that went on.
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Old 27-06-2007, 05:22 PM   #119
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See now I reckon that stuff is awesome, I in no way ever knock anyone who believes in ghosts/spirits or whatever you wish to call them.... I just fail to see a connection with other subject beginning with R.
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Old 27-06-2007, 05:38 PM   #120
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Why can't I have a devil in my sig? I simply stated what the Christian faith believes.
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