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My point is from what was to be synonymous with pure evil came some positive outcomes, merely responding to a previous posters decree that by a certain reading the Nazi party, in particular Adlof Hitler was to be aspired too. In the context of this thread and my statements good can come from evil as much as evil can come from good, Mandela did what he needed to achieve the outcomes he believed in, despite his Machiavellian methods. JP |
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And I have never, ever denied any of that but you cannot ignore the great man for what he was. There is only a very small handful of people that accomplished what he did. He was most certainly a horrible, horrible person but do not take away from the greatness that he achieved.
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What about the fiasco with the sign language interpreter?
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13-12-2013, 09:35 PM | #41 | |||
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Once he gained power, he had the friends and comrades that got him there, executed. His lot burnt down the Reichstag (German parliament house), blamed the communists and he seized absolute power - dictatorship. Parents had to sign their children up for the Hitler Youth or they were sent off to concentration camps. Churches had to preach the Nazi way, or the priests were sent off too. Trade Unions where banned, many of the leaders shot or imprisoned. Detention without trial. Execution without trial. No legal defence as defending lawyers ended up either dead or in a camp. The German worker took a 25% paycut - all of them (except the party high ups of course). The parliament met only six times during his entire reign, and only Nazi's could attend parliament, anyone with a different point of view was rounded and etc etc. And this was against his own people. Read Mein Kampf, and, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer available on Kindle. These books will change your view. Great men and women lay down their lives for their friends, their people and their country. Simply, he didn't. Nelson did.
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15-12-2013, 02:42 PM | #42 | ||
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unions supported NELSON MANDELLA AND HELPED GET RID OF APARTHEID .
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15-12-2013, 04:03 PM | #43 | |||
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One thing is certain, by the time the one testicled SOB was dead along with his murderous cronies, Germany was utterly destroyed. Nearly every major city was bombed and flattened. But Germany rebuilt, and without Adolph (or anyone like him) in sight - go figure. I think Germany is where it is today because of the German hard work ethos and high skilled people not because it was run by a psychopath. Just look at the state of the formed USSR, which was run by series of corrupt and murderous psychopaths you wouldn't call it successful would you? What was so different between Stalin and Adolph. |
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15-12-2013, 10:23 PM | #44 | |||
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If it was not for England etc coming to Africa the people would still be living in the madness they always did, fighting each other year in year out. To point out that it was white people who were the problem and had done this or that is a uneducated point of view that lacks depth. I find the average aussie is a total ignorant fool as to the real problems and all you hear is pathetic one sided view of dolts who push a hair brain fantasy world view. it makes me sick to put up with it all the time. I worked with two black as the ace of spades South Africans and they pointed out to me the truth and they were well educated christian people and they feared for their life's of other blacks that would kill them on the spot because they were from a different tribe. It's not all Rosey like the TV love to push at all. |
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And its this colonial white opinion that states saving that savages is what is the right thing. Who has the right to say how you lives is wrong that you will be better of if you do it our way. If you subscribe to this point of view then you must sell anything ford you own and replace with Kia. Becuase I believe you will be better off for doing it. But you wont because you don't believe I have authority over you. And that is no different to colonialism except they used force or the threat of it and other control devices to 'convince' the savages. And how is one tribe killing another any different to modern white behavior. WW1 WW2, Cosovo, Falklands, Bosnia, Iraq, etc etc etc. and pretty much wherever you look whites killing blacks, asian, whites themselves others etc. As a rule of thumb Sub saharan Africans have the darkest skin, the so called 'black as ace of spades' are more likely Nigerian, Congoneese etc. the south Africans are more golden, olive and lighter. Are you sure your quoted sources are legit. Just because you are white does not mean you can dictate to the rest of the non white world how they should live, what they should believe and who should rule them. JP |
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This is very, very close to a political thread, but I remember one similar to this a few years ago, but for the life of me I can't remember what it was about. And the Moderators let it stay open and I applauded them then for it, and I do for this one too.
Mr Mandela was not quite the man most people seem to think he was and I think some research into to him would be very enlightening/sickening. As for Winnie... well, the necklace reffered to earlier in this thread is commonly known as the Winnie Mandela necklace, look it up. Collateral damage my ***!!! Cheers, Kraig
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Hitlers position is much the same as our modern day world is heading in a way and the problem is our people are so naive, why ? because most have no idea what Hitler was really on about and they don't want to know to be truthful, as they are happy to be ignorant. i say Hitler pushed much the same tactics as they do today, Political Correctness was his and Stalin's puppy but today it's just used in a fabian way but the ends are the same, it's evil pure evil when you comprend it all. we are being lead down the garden path and it's so calculating and it's destroying the very foundations of a people. We may of won the war but have lost the battle, it's a creep show ! and the blind leading the blind. it sickens me to have to put up with it all to know that people went to war and have no idea what they were truly fighting for. but the ones that did know, boy were they angered to see what is push today. |
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I used to live in Bougainville Island, PNG, and some of the natives were so black that they almost had a purple-ish tinge to them. (if that makes sense...)
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Watching that service in his home town of Qunu makes me proud to be an African! RIP
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I was given the opportunity to move over here with the family and jumped at the chance. If I had the chance I would move back and contribute to my home land. Mandela, yes he did make a positive change. if he was not released from prison can you imagine what would have become of South Africa? Sanctions stopped the country from growing, there would be civil wars left right and centre and it would become just like the other north african countries in a bit of strife at the moment. The country has developed for the better, sport, economy, education. It is the current idiots running the show that are stuffing it up for everyone else.
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Yes they were black black but not blue black like some are, just saying because jpblue1000 is carrying on a bit over the top and all, and i know who they are and i don't need jpblue to push that i don't know who they are. I know 3 mates that are part black who would not go back to SA for anything. If one thinks i am negative to some race for prejudice reasons it is not so at all as i am a contractor and i steer clear of white SA people when it comes to contracting and money, i have had a gut full of them and you know after learning the hard way and i don't give a toss what other people think, but my own personal experience is what it is and i am not changing my view point for some dim witted Politically Correct modern day fools that live in a dream world and they would not know jack or give a toss about reality as they can't see the big picture because they can't handle the truth and love to live a lie. I am amazed at the rubbish TV pushes and people sit and swallow it all and not to mention the schools type of rainbow nazi brainwashing creep show and all. the world has gone mad. |
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Yes corrupt sons of guns who are looking out for themselves. Zuma is a clown and his own people know it.
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I have an Hebrew sir name so i have looked into all this stuff in depth and i must say what i learned at school about it all was very basic and very one sided and my mothers extream hatred of Germans was over the top but understandable as there nation was invaded and all. When i started looking into the in depth history i was shocked to find that Hitler was not the person i thought he was at all, i had been painted a picture that was only part of the story and not truly educated at all. When education focus on all the bad of something that's not an education. I can see much of the evil of Hitlers cunning ways in our own australian society today and it reeks of evil and filth as they push the same type of disgusting filthy Political Correct trash as Hitler and Stalin did, brainwashing people. but this time it's just in a fabian way. It's a creep show. and people have not learned jack at all and will go on repeating the same mistakes again and again. |
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Here's another example, Porsche designs the Volkswagen - the 'peoples car' or as Hitler called it 'the Strength through Joy' car and presents it to Hitler in 1938. Germans were encouraged to make down payments for the car. None of them drove one. Hitler took the money and put it in the war chest. Cheers.
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