Mitsubishi 380 Nov sales

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by Yaw

The Avalon was from the european market not the american market.
I was actually quite disappointed when they decided not to let the Avalons race in the early days of super V8's, seems to me they were too scared of a more highly developed japanese V8 beating the local cars. As for the 380 it is built to directly compete with the falcon and commodore, the avalon was not made to that market, the avalon was competing with the stateman and fairlane market.

It is against the forum rules to insult you directly, so I won't.

The Avalon, Toyota themselves repetiadley say, is their competitor for the Commodore and Falcon. It is almost $20k cheaper base vs the base Fairlane and Statesman, and in most expensive guise, STILL cheaper then a base Fairlane or Statesman. It's also not as big. It's also not luxurious.

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsa...el_name=AVALON

Originally Posted by Carsales.com.au Research Cars section

Introduction
Toyota's new large car, the Avalon, has been released to compete against Commodore, Falcon and Magna in the Large segment. The Avalon is locally manufactured at Toyota's Altona plant. The floorpan is based on that of the Camry, which is also locally manufactured. Toyota expect to sell more of the higher grade Avalon models than is the norm for large cars such as Commodore and Falcon. The Avalon will sell to vehicle fleets and private buyers in roughly equal numbers, as opposed to Falcon and Commodore, of which only approximately 18% sell to private buyers.

Ahem. It's also based on an outdated US design (Avalon has been sold there for a long time). It is not European based. It's 2006/07 replacement will wear a different name, and ditch the inferior US design.

It has the dynamic's of a boat. My mate's mum has a 2000 Avalon Conquest, it corners like a boat. Body rolls alot, and the steering is horrible. It's ultra light with absolutley no feel whatsoever.

As for being well built. Depends on your definition of well built... and let me tell you, Avalon isn't well built in my books. It's inferior to the Camry. It's inferior to the Falcon. Probably on par with Mitsubishi/Commodore. The bloke my dad drives for put one on as a cab, and took it off the road in 8 months... too many problems. And the one my mate's mum has isn't looking too crash hot for a 5 yr old car. Remember, it's not a true Japanese car... it's built here, based off an American design.

Anyway, I wouldn't compare the 380 to Falcon or Commodore. It can't compete. Avalon/Camry would be more suitable competition IMO.