Hundreds of guns seized in NSW raid

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Originally Posted by ken2903

Do you honestly believe the benefits of letting people carry guns with them when they go shopping outweigh the risk of being killed by a bad guy? If you do then i don't think you should be allowed to carry a concealed rubber band.

I think you've seen too many movies.

And that is the problem. Too many cannot tell the difference between real life, movies and video games.

There are thousands of people in Australia who carry concealed handguns. I did for over 10 years as did many people I know.
We all had reasons as were licences accordingly.
Strangely enough we don't seem to have killed a huge number of people.

The problem with the gun debate is that the majority of both pro and anti gunners really have about as much idea about the actual situation as the bogans and mutants in macca's car park have about motor racing and performance vehicles.

I read constantly about you can't do this or that and whatever is too dangerous or safe. The facts seem to have very little to do any of these stories.

It is interesting that the media make a huge story about an 84 year old guy who sold a small amount of gear to an undercover cop yet seem to forget the constant ethnic gun violence that happens on a daily basis in western Sydney. Oh that would be racist wouldn't it?
These guns weren't stolen or used in a crime, they were just things that were once legal and then someone decided to ban them and part of our society do not agree with the laws.

How many here have radar detectors, nitrous kits, pod filters or other things that are banned? How many exceed the speed limit? Oh that is of course different isn't it?

This dealer had 300 guns, that makes him absolutely tiny as most have thousands of guns, most rubbish in "safe storage" waiting for the hopeless beaurocrats in thw weapons registrys to process paperwork.

He did not have 300 illegal guns.

He had 200,000 rounds of ammo. In that a case of 22s is 5000 rds, a case of shot shells is 500 rounds and the average small bore or DTL shooter (both olympic events) would buy 5-20,000 22s at a time or 5000 shotshells, 200,000 would be maybe a months supply for a couple of clubs.
I would have at least 10,000 rounds of ammo in my shed at the moment and I don't shoot all that often anymore.

50kg of powder? If he only carried one brand (of the 10 or so that are available) and he had only one box of each speed powder he would have over 100kg.

The grenade is a bit confusing. There are no pics or actual description of it which makes me suspect that it is not actually a fragmentation, HE or WP rather training dummy or more likely a flash-bang.

I used to sell BirdFright which was shot shells that went bang at about 50m and was used to frighen birds of runways and out of fruit trees. They were reclassified as grenades in 1996 and restricted. So were lots of other things like flare launchers etc.

The pro/anti gun arguement will be resolved the week after Harold Scruby buys a GT, Fred Nile officiates at a gay marriage and A Current Affair tells the truth.

Don't hold your breath........