TAFE or UNI

[Stealth00]

Just interested to know the percentage of people on these forums who completed TAFE courses as opposed to Uni.

For the record I have completed 2 TAFE courses.

[FordFan86]

I took a 6 month TAFE course at the start of the year (Automotive mechanics, completed). I deferred my Uni course. Next week I'm taking down forms to change the Uni course to something I find a bit more intersting.

[Dave_au]

Uni if you want a career with money

Tafe if you actually want some skills that you'd be able to use at junior levels.

[RED_EL_XR8]

Originally Posted by FordFan86

Next week I'm taking down forms to change the Uni course to something I find a bit more intersting.

But will Farnkarkling be a career choice that guarantees you a steady income?

[CruizinEB]

yes i go to TAFE and i hate it, they wont let me smoke near the building :(:(:(:(

[Matty_XR6]

TAFE yes but also considering UNI as UNI supplies courses and certificates TAFE doesn`t

[Deadman]

I did 2 Uni courses, but can I add, I have great respect for people who do TAFE - it's actually WAY harder than Uni!

[b2tf]

Just about to begin a TAFE Diploma.

[KEV EB XR8]

Two times at tafe

1 two year course, Retail butchery,dpi inspection,

1 year course, Metalurgy, metal composition

1 course still attending - Club Directors institute. should extent this to include stage 2

[Penelope Pitstop]

Define Completed :O

[romaniac]

ive got 2 subjects left to do next semester till i finish my bachelor of business degree

[Matty_XR6]

Originally Posted by PirtekGirl76

Define Completed :O

You finished the course and left with a statement of attainment..certificate or diploma :

[Stealth00]

I'll let dictionary.com define it for you

tr.v. com·plet·ed, com·plet·ing, com·pletes

1. To bring to a finish or an end: She has completed her studies.
2. To make whole, with all necessary elements or parts: A second child would complete their family.
3. Football. To throw (a forward pass) so as to be caught by a receiver.

[parawolf]

Originally Posted by Dave_au

Uni if you want a career with money

Tafe if you actually want some skills that you'd be able to use at junior levels.

Crap crap and utter crap.

You do not require University or TAFE skills to excell in society or have a career with money. It is just harder without.

Personally if three people presented to me as an employer, one with a University Degree, one with a TAFE diploma and one without either but with 2 years experience they would all get equal consideration. In fact the person with experience (depends on the experience, why they are moving on, many many factors) would be the person i'd be hardest on in the interview stage - but for the right reasons that they should be better at the job.

Teritary qualifications are a foot in the door, nothing more.

[KEV EB XR8]

Originally Posted by Stealth00

I'll let dictionary.com define it for you

tr.v. com·plet·ed, com·plet·ing, com·pletes

1. To bring to a finish or an end: She has completed her studies.
2. To make whole, with all necessary elements or parts: A second child would complete their family.
3. Football. To throw (a forward pass) so as to be caught by a receiver.

Thats a bit nasty !

[Thunder]

TAFE Courses completed

1 Welding and Metals fabrication.

2 Advanced Welding and Metals Fabrication.

3 Hospitality Management Incl Business Management.


So now i can make a great seafood rissoto and fix the broken gas oven at the same time.

[crannersEL]

I've just completed year 12 and waiting to see if i get the score to get into Uni, Ive also put down some TAFE courses.

But i want im wanting to goto Uni

[Tornado]

Originally Posted by parawolf

Crap crap and utter crap.

You do not require University or TAFE skills to excell in society or have a career with money. It is just harder without.

Personally if three people presented to me as an employer, one with a University Degree, one with a TAFE diploma and one without either but with 2 years experience they would all get equal consideration. In fact the person with experience (depends on the experience, why they are moving on, many many factors) would be the person i'd be hardest on in the interview stage - but for the right reasons that they should be better at the job.

Teritary qualifications are a foot in the door, nothing more.

Yep I agree, its only a foot in the door, you need it to get the job.

ie:
How do you get the job to get the experieance without TAFE or UNI

[parawolf]

Originally Posted by Tornado

Yep I agree, its only a foot in the door, you need it to get the job.

ie:
How do you get the job to get the experieance without TAFE or UNI

Talking IT here, here are some examples:
Sys-Admin:
Pick an organisation like CFA or Surf Life Saving and volunteer your time. Assist with running a large scale web forum like www.fordforums.com.au and formalise processes like fortnightly/monthly meetings at BSR headquarters, and be secertary for those meetings.

Programmers:
Contribute to Open Source projects

Other employment disiplines have fairly comprehensive apprentiships already in place, in addition to this, to further your skills, join a not-for-profit organisation and volunteer your time on committee boards (car club: be a membership officier, secertary, treasurer, event organiser).

In the car industry, become a CAMS flag marshall, join in on Formula SAE organisation with your CAMS accreditation, get skills up and you could do large sporting events.

In business management or similar you could volunteer your time to Commonwealth games administration. See if you could 'shadow' some of the managers in that field.

I've listed volunteering a lot - but it is the easiest items to come out with. To get 'paid' industry rates, requires at least some formal training or experience.

[paul7v7]

TAFE will teach you something that no one recognises professionally
UNI will charge you a house mortgage and teach you nothing that everyone recognises.

I am doing my second degree and have to say the standard of uni courses these days is dismal.

[RapidTypLady]

Originally Posted by Dave_au

Uni if you want a career with money

Tafe if you actually want some skills that you'd be able to use at junior levels.

My daughter didnt have high enough scores to get into Uni straight so she had to do a 6 month bridging course in TAFE first and then went to Uni. She is now a qualified nurse and working. I dont agree with that statement Dave as the girls who were in Uni dropped out and the girls who were in TAFE stayed until the end.

[Tornado]

Originally Posted by paul7v7

I am doing my second degree and have to say the standard of uni courses these days is dismal.

I wouldn't know about that, I completed my degree 12 years ago.

[bprint xr8]

Finished uni (bachelor of business) some time ago. Havent done any tafe courses.

I do know of people who do quite well for themselves that have done neither. I think its more of a question of what you need to do to get started in your choosen field.

[EFFalcon]

finished uni but am under the impression tafe will give you more usable skills.
how ever the peice of paper at the end is what gets looked at.

how i see it.
junior levels - neither has advantages.. experience counts more.
sensior levels - experience + best education, its as simple as that.
it'll be 10 years down the track that you'll see the benefit.

[tbearz]

1st year uni finish...sigh can finally relax now
woohoo only 5 years to go :|
aint gettin any dosh till 2011
horses for courses i say, some ppl do brilliantly at uni, others do brilliantly at tafe
and as everyone else is saying, experience in your respective field is invaluable whatever that may be

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by parawolf

Crap crap and utter crap.

You do not require University or TAFE skills to excell in society or have a career with money. It is just harder without.

Personally if three people presented to me as an employer, one with a University Degree, one with a TAFE diploma and one without either but with 2 years experience they would all get equal consideration. In fact the person with experience (depends on the experience, why they are moving on, many many factors) would be the person i'd be hardest on in the interview stage - but for the right reasons that they should be better at the job.

Teritary qualifications are a foot in the door, nothing more.

I second that..im still at uni, its ok but ive been in the automotive industry on an internship of sorts for nearly 12 months and uni means jack once your in.

Its like w.a.n.k.e.r.s that go on about TER score when they are already in uni...get over it..lol

[parawolf]

Originally Posted by EFFalcon

finished uni but am under the impression tafe will give you more usable skills.
how ever the peice of paper at the end is what gets looked at.

how i see it.
junior levels - neither has advantages.. experience counts more.
sensior levels - experience + best education, its as simple as that.
it'll be 10 years down the track that you'll see the benefit.

experience + best education? Best education in what though? How much of that engineering degree (as an example, not directed at you) would prepare you for managing a team of say 15, plus balance an expenses budget of a few million and handle business/customer relations.

I can tell you my engineering degree prepared me for none of that. It has exactly zero bearing on my current place of employment.

I got to where I am by working hard, and proving myself in a tight situation time and time again. Rewards are there for the taking.

[Thunder]

Theory work wont make you think faster. But practicle work will.

[SSBUB]

iv done both, and uni will get you higher 'spec' jobs imo...tafe is good for trades and the like...it just depends on where u want to be in the end.

[XRated]

I went to TAFE for two years, then I went into my current Uni course.

TAFE was good for me because I needed an 80% attendance rate to pass. Teachers get to know you closely and you work in smaller groups - much like High School with flexibility and enough discipline. If you have little motivation, Uni is a bad option because you won't be forced to go. That's my biggest mistake.

At TAFE I acquired a lot of interpersonal skills that Uni hasn't yet taught me. The quality of some of the material and teachers sometimes lacks, but I could understand all my teachers at TAFE!

Unfortunately I didn't pass one unit (Object Oriented Programming: Java) in TAFE, so I didn't get my Diploma/Certificate. I'm thinking of doing a night class to get the Diploma. Otherwise it's just been a big waste.