$165,000 for new LS9 HSV

[Fab]

Journalists always manage to compare HSV's with Lambos and Porsches.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/in...219a4eb92b15aa

[Giant Cranium]

good on them, going out big and bad,

[FPV GTHO]

"Fewer than 250 expected to be built" Yeah no kidding. With just over half that number of W427's being made i would think HSV would probably aim for around 100 builds, if it all truly goes ahead.

[HO 3]

I hope they build it...............300 plus units to meet genuine demand, and I will probably put my hand up for one.

Cheers Mick

[Qwerty321]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

"Fewer than 250 expected to be built" Yeah no kidding. With just over half that number of W427's being made i would think HSV would probably aim for around 100 builds, if it all truly goes ahead.

This is the literally the best Commodore that will ever exist. Going out with a massive bang, and the fans are sure to love it. Heck, if I could afford it I'd be getting in an order asap. Think of it this way, the GTS-R (They are calling it that right?) will literally be the last ever aussie car model to ever be made, and that alone is a big thing.

On the topic of being the same cost as a porche etc. Well, it's a completely different kind of car. For people who don't know two things about cars and go after cars like they go after designer gear they'll see the GTS-R as simply a Holden, a brand associated with bogans and nothing prestigious. But that's nothing new tbh.

[b0son]

They could easily sell 250 ... it will be the last ever high performance Commodore.

If only Ford would use it as motivation to send the Falcon off with a HO ......

[Elks]

Originally Posted by b0son

They could easily sell 250 ... it will be the last ever high performance Commodore.

If only Ford would use it as motivation to send the Falcon off with a HO ......

History say no. $165k+ reduces the field quite quickly. You're now talking C63s money. There is a lot of fine machinery at that price. Anyway the number I heard was 100 units. With only 63 HSV dealers you needed have had your deposit down long ago.

[arronm]

Bit rich, 165K buys a lot of car, and personally its wasted on a Holden...

[uniacidz]

Wow at the price

Wow, going out with a loud bang

Best of the GTS and more





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[XBGTFGGTP]

Hope the engines last longer than what they do in the Vette.

[The Lone Ranger]

I just want one

Darren

[SensationFG8]

That's a lot of coin for an extra 45kW...

I would've thought it would make more sense to tweak the LSA and get these into the low 100 bracket?!

[Falcon SXR8]

Originally Posted by SensationFG8

That's a lot of coin for an extra 45kW...

I would've thought it would make more sense to tweak the LSA and get these into the low 100 bracket?!

HSV doesn't know how to modify motors for more power, they have just been a crate motor company for years

Will be a sic aussie car though, the best even

[JDSOTI]

Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

HSV doesn't know how to modify motors for more power, they have just been a crate motor company for years

Will be a sic aussie car though, the best even

I agree, I don't believe that dropping in an American based motor makes the commodore any more the last most powerful "Australian" model, it's a shame they could not have developed such a unit locally like the Barra 6, they may as well have dropped in a Lamborghini V12, IMO it losses its heritage..

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by JDSOTI

I agree, I don't believe that dropping in an American based motor makes the commodore any more the last most powerful "Australian" model, it's a shame they could not have developed such a unit locally like the Barra 6, they may as well have dropped in a Lamborghini V12, IMO it losses its heritage..

BS, when they are both Yank multinationals in the end anyway.
Didn't the decision to end ford and holden aus production come from Detroit?
Arent the Ford archives going to Detroit?

[CoupeKing]

Give me 165k someone

I'll bring in a Hellcat.

[Sioso]

The article actually says more than $165K, if that's true I wouldn't expect any change from $200K once on the road.
It would want to have a lot more than just an extra 45kw for that money.
Too rich for me.

[Patty]

Originally Posted by Sioso

The article actually says more than $165K, if that's true I wouldn't expect any change from $200K once on the road.
It would want to have a lot more than just an extra 45kw for that money.
Too rich for me.

It's not just about the power. For $165k it's still a lot of power. Remember the $250k M5 has 423kw and 680nm. The GTS-R will have 485kw and 840Nm. What will really make it worth $165k is the technology and how it handles. No point having that much power if you can't put it down. I would expect an overhauled chassis, latest suspension, upgraded brakes, upgraded transmission (8spd auto possibly)

Plus it's the name that people will pay for too. The last hoorah for the commodore.

If you are just approaching the equation from the "price per kw" point of view, then you may as well buy a new LSA Clubsport for $85 and spend $30k and you will have a 600kw animal.

[Sioso]

Originally Posted by Patty

It's not just about the power. For $165k it's still a lot of power. Remember the $250k M5 has 423kw and 680nm. The GTS-R will have 485kw and 840Nm. What will really make it worth $165k is the technology and how it handles. No point having that much power if you can't put it down. I would expect an overhauled chassis, latest suspension, upgraded brakes, upgraded transmission (8spd auto possibly)

Plus it's the name that people will pay for too. The last hoorah for the commodore.

If you are just approaching the equation from the "price per kw" point of view, then you may as well buy a new LSA Clubsport for $85 and spend $30k and you will have a 600kw animal.

If it has all the stuff you mentioned it would be worth the money (doubt that it will though), but if it's nothing more than the motor upgrade the $$$$'s aren't worth it IMHO.

[Bowser22]

I know where I'd spend $165k for a car

[mick74GT]

Originally Posted by Patty

It's not just about the power. For $165k it's still a lot of power. Remember the $250k M5 has 423kw and 680nm. The GTS-R will have 485kw and 840Nm. What will really make it worth $165k is the technology and how it handles. No point having that much power if you can't put it down. I would expect an overhauled chassis, latest suspension, upgraded brakes, upgraded transmission (8spd auto possibly)

Plus it's the name that people will pay for too. The last hoorah for the commodore.

If you are just approaching the equation from the "price per kw" point of view, then you may as well buy a new LSA Clubsport for $85 and spend $30k and you will have a 600kw animal.

Agree with this. It is expensive but will be well worth it if you can afford it and will be much more than a modified LSA clubby..

[zilo]

Originally Posted by mick74GT

Agree with this. It is expensive but will be well worth it if you can afford it and will be much more than a modified LSA clubby..

Tesla is faster

[jgs393]

Originally Posted by Sioso

The article actually says more than $165K, if that's true I wouldn't expect any change from $200K once on the road.
It would want to have a lot more than just an extra 45kw for that money.
Too rich for me.

I agree. The luxury car tax threshold is $63,184. For every dollar over this, which includes the dealer delivery charge, the tax is calculated at 33%.

I can't imagine a dealer will discount any delivery fees and miss out on profit so let's say the dealer charges $5k for delivery (they might even charge more perhaps?).

Car $165k plus $5k delivery = $170k. This means LCT is calculated on $106,816 which is the difference between $170k and the $63,184 threshold.

The LCT bill for this car is $35,249. Add this to the $170k and now you're up for $205,249. Still haven't paid for rego or insurance or plates yet!!

Pretty wicked car though.

[66 STANG]

The article read as the GTS will be made in basic form in Adelaide, then shipped to HSV for an engine transplant with the LS9. Does that mean each new car will come with a spare backup LSA engine??........ha ha ha.....!!
I've been a Ford guy through and through all my life, but with no FPV on offer, these do look like a pretty awesome package, but probably not worth the cash at the end of the day......

[Nikked]

Pretty fitting send off, as (from a vauge memory) the original GTS was "corvette powered", and holden marketed them as such...

[Cobra]

Good on HSV. I think it will be the second fastest sedan sold in this country after the RS7 and equal fourth fastest in the world with the its LS9 powered Cadillac cousin - only trailing behind the aforementioned RS7, AWD Mercedes-Benz E63 and Dodge Charger Hellcat.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Cobra

Good on HSV. I think it will be the second fastest sedan sold in this country after the RS7 and equal fourth fastest in the world with the its LS9 powered Cadillac cousin - only trailing behind the aforementioned RS7, AWD Mercedes-Benz E63 and Dodge Charger Hellcat.

Tesla is faster

[Hemihunter]

165k for a commodore , the worlds gone mad!

[LG17]

Where's Chooka?

[last fairlane]

Hemi
you say $165k the world has gone mad
cast your mind back to the first Commodore it cost $6900
and we thought that was expensive for a little car