How does a Caltex business survive.

ryeman · 23-01-2013, 09:04 AM

Surrounded by Caltex/Safeway mini marts, it remains a mystery, or are they servicing trades with a dif discount system and is that enough...?

(File under another frequently un-asked question)

reece1 · 23-01-2013, 08:54 PM

What do you mean

ryeman · 23-01-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by reece1

What do you mean

They don't do discounts, or is that of no importance?...it is to me.
$30- 130 shop at Coles gets you anything from 8-18c/L frinstance, a VERY big deal on LPG!

Herrod Motorsport · 23-01-2013, 08:56 PM

Beats me , I would never use there fuel

b2tf · 23-01-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Herrod Motorsport

Beats me , I would never use there fuel

We have no choice here, we have 2 BP's in town the rest are all Caltex.

Windsor220 · 24-01-2013, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Herrod Motorsport

Beats me , I would never use there fuel

Any reason why?

LTDHO · 24-01-2013, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Herrod Motorsport

Beats me , I would never use there fuel

It's good fuel and you can make good power on it without needing to go higher RON or enthanol.

ryeman · 24-01-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LTDHO

It's good fuel and you can make good power on it without needing to go higher RON or enthanol.

......what I'm trying to get at is, wouldn't you get IT cheaper at the discount outlets Safeway and Woolworths Caltex?
Caltex don't discount do they?

jpblue1000 · 24-01-2013, 08:17 AM

I got 12c a litre off just 2 days ago, 8c for a docket and 4c cause I bought a soft drink docket only gave 4c but the casier claimed they offer 8 to match coles. And yes at a safeways caltex.
jp

Franco Cozzo · 23-01-2013, 09:10 PM

Their diesel is alright, if I don't fill up at my local Shell, I use Caltex in Tullamarine.

AndyXR6T · 23-01-2013, 09:12 PM

They are owned by woolworths... They will always survive

ryeman · 23-01-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyXR6T

They are owned by woolworths... They will always survive

Coles owns Shell retail apart from the odd independent which begs the ? why have a parallel franchise.?
Maybe it's about perception of quality...

Werd. · 24-01-2013, 01:50 AM

I'm pretty much an exclusive 7-11 customer.

I like the store, $1 coffees, and 2x2L milk for $5, it's convenient to stop off at, plus I use 95 in my car, (not dumb enough to use E10, don't care enough about the car to use 98).

7/11s 95 is usually pretty cheap, around $1.40/1.45 lately.

Joshmcmillan · 24-01-2013, 02:38 AM

I got to Caltex regularly. The BP here charges 169.9 for 98, Caltex is only 164.9.

**MercurySilver** · 24-01-2013, 11:35 AM

i wonder if you can fill half a tank using an 8c docket adn then duck around the corner and use another servo that accepts the same dockets and fill up the rest of the tank using another 8c docket?

i know it says one docket per day per car
but what if you and the misses were out and about in two diff cars onteh same day with a docket each
that would work (surely) so im wondering if you can wangle 16c off by doing the above??

jpblue1000 · 24-01-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MercurySilver

i wonder if you can fill half a tank using an 8c docket adn then duck around the corner and use another servo that accepts the same dockets and fill up the rest of the tank using another 8c docket?

I think you will find this still only nets you 8c for the tank!
JP

**MercurySilver** · 24-01-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jpblue1000

I think you will find this still only nets you 8c for the tank!
JP

im not exactly a math genius but explain this to a dumb ***

if i put 25$ in and use the 8c voucher i get two bucks off (eg)
i go to another servo and do the same again havent i just put 50$ in and got 16c off the entire amount of fuel ive taken? and now saved 4$?

i can see the forehead emoticon being used on my next post

LTDHO · 24-01-2013, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MercurySilver

im not exactly a math genius but explain this to a dumb ***

if i put 25$ in and use the 8c voucher i get two bucks off (eg)
i go to another servo and do the same again havent i just put 50$ in and got 16c off the entire amount of fuel ive taken? and now saved 4$?

i can see the forehead emoticon being used on my next post

Get a calculator mate, your figures make no sense at all.

buggo · 24-01-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MercurySilver

im not exactly a math genius but explain this to a dumb ***

if i put 25$ in and use the 8c voucher i get two bucks off (eg)
i go to another servo and do the same again havent i just put 50$ in and got 16c off the entire amount of fuel ive taken? and now saved 4$?

i can see the forehead emoticon being used on my next post

Sorry but how does that work at all?

Let's say $25 = 15l.

15l x 8c p/l = $1.20.

Then you go do the same around the corner, saving another 8c p/l on another 15l.
You have now saved $2.40 on 30l of fuel/ $50 of fuel.

Which happens to be 8c a litre.

jpblue1000 · 24-01-2013, 02:05 PM

See only 8c saving per tank. However that's irrelevant to the wider topic, not to you Mr silver.
The nail has well and truly been hit on the head, a problem that has been alluded to, talked around and baulked at, in many posts since I joined this forum after buying my ute.
As a consumer in this country we are ignorant. We do not explore, investigate or research our purchases before we blindly hand over more money to the big commercial entities that vie to rule our world. As a result our choice is ever limited as they monopolise our retail choice, supermarkets offer less and less choice and reduced qualities but inflated prices, they then buy petrol stations, start chains of hardware shops selling junk ever quashing small independent competition, demanding lower cost from already stretched suppliers transporters and workers, effectively changing the face of employment from full time secure to underemployed part time insecure workforce. Yet we continue to blindly walk in there every week and hand over our cash to support these practices.

It reminds me of a History I learn't while living in the UK.
The cotton bobbin industry once flourished wildly as labourors created thousands of timber bobbins for the factory. It was a job for life, you only progressed in your career when the man above you died, you then took his position until you died. you worked hard long hours doing dangerous work supplying your own tools. when you finished for the day you would go to the local to unwind and who owned the local, yes the factory did, so you paid them for a beer, then you went home to the factory owned accommodation and paid them rent again, when you woke your wife would have prepared your lunch, made from what she was able to afford from the factory owned shop. So you worked and more often than not all your remuneration was returned to the owner. The owner maintained a monopoly on you and was able to effectively slave you out with your permission.

I'm not saying what we have is this bad but its not really that far fetched to see where we are blindly, unwittingly going, effectively enslaving ourselves without protest, yet those who do protest, point out the flaws are beaten down by the very people that they are trying to warn. I'm sure the boardrooms of the massive multiculturals sit and laugh at the whole absurdity yet ease of it.
JP

xisled · 24-01-2013, 12:22 PM

I have never used discount dockets in my life. I barley even look at the petrol price.

I have better things to do in my life than worry about saving a whole $2.

The way I see it, my GT gets BP only. And the VX gets United as it is the servo on the way to work. I am sure the extra cost of food in a Woolsworth supermarket makes up for the petrol people do not buy.

Wait Woolworths actually make most of their money from pokies.

Ryeman why are most of your post's about money and trying to save 10 cents.

ryeman · 24-01-2013, 12:29 PM

Because we're not all the same I guess and don't like wasting my precious resources. Don't you worry I'm not telling YOU what to do!
Ok?

nuthin' fancy · 24-01-2013, 12:43 PM

We're all being shafted by the supermarkets.

They took control of fuel retail and ruined the pricing cycle. Do you know what the cheap day is now?

While they initially offered genuine discounts, now they have jacked the price up and give you something back if you buy from them. It is like having a $7,000 1996 Hyundai Excel discounted to $6500 because you are a loyal customer.

We paid up to $1.70 when the $US was $0.50 to the $AUD and oil was over $100. Do the compariosn now and we should be paying around $0.90 per litre. Someone is ripping us off.

There has been recent reporting about the number of truckies going belly up because the supermarkets are forcing the price paid for transport down. Drivers have to drive longer for less because of the supermarkets.

They force difficult hours on staff - who wants to work to 10pm on Christmas Eve? Who wants to work from 5am Boxing Day because of the sales?

The quality of their produce is junk and more and more they offer their 'home brands' with labelling that makes it difficult to determine the Australian content (if any). If they have a special with a two for one deal, they make the supplier drop their price, the supermarket continues to scoop the same margin off the top.

They are pricing independant liquor shops out by buying everything up and then pretending to compete against one another. BWS and Dan Murphys are not independent stores, Woolworths owns them. Coles have multiple liquor outlets too and is owned by the company that owns Bunnings.

Woolworths have set up Masters to compete with Bunnings.

I'm fed up with their market dominance, they use us by supplying necessary items at continually inflated prices and the government seems content to let it happen rather than act for the benefit of the people who voted them in.

Smoke Pursuit · 24-01-2013, 12:52 PM

Ive just started to use caltex.... been a BP customer for the last 10 years but I am sick to death of paying an extra 15 cents a litre for 98ron... My local BP is $1.64 where as Caltex is only $1.49 for Vortex... I use 100 litres a week = $15 saving. $780 a year!

Bossxr8 · 25-01-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DASH GT

Ive just started to use caltex.... been a BP customer for the last 10 years but I am sick to death of paying an extra 15 cents a litre for 98ron... My local BP is $1.64 where as Caltex is only $1.49 for Vortex... I use 100 litres a week = $15 saving. $780 a year!

The extra price they charge for premium fuel is another one of their scams. Its been quoted that premium fuels cost an extra 2-3 cents per litre to make over 91, yet they charge the earth for it. And they have continually jacked the price of premium up over the last few years too.

Its used to be 4 cents a litre extra for 95, now its 11 or so. Total freaken' scam.

XPL37V · 24-01-2013, 12:58 PM

I agree with fancy, i make a point when shopping NOT to buy woolies branded food because everytime it seems i walk in there is less and less choice for consumers to choose from.
I'd hate to one day have only there branded food on the shelves as i'd have no choice then....

XR6_661 · 24-01-2013, 05:52 PM

I pay 1.75 for 95ron.

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Phil B · 24-01-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by XR6_661

I pay 1.75 for 95ron.

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I pay $2.15/L for 95, at the only servo within 800km.

And I saw in the shop today, DVD movies $60 each.

Someone is pocketing some mega cash.

XR6_661 · 25-01-2013, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil B

I pay $2.15/L for 95, at the only servo within 800km.

And I saw in the shop today, DVD movies $60 each.

Someone is pocketing some mega cash.

Most I've paid is $2.05 for 95 at Nanutarra, WA.

$60 for a DVD, I have no words. That's unreal!

Agent86 · 25-01-2013, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XPL37V

I agree with fancy, i make a point when shopping NOT to buy woolies branded food because everytime it seems i walk in there is less and less choice for consumers to choose from.
I'd hate to one day have only there branded food on the shelves as i'd have no choice then....

After having worked for WW, i cannot understand why aussies flock to their outlets.

I wont getin to specifics, but there are a large number of those who worked with them, wheni did who will not spend one cent with them.

And the prior poster, wesfarmers is the owner of coles/bunnings.