Fevola out! Good call/Bad call?

[prydey]

are all sports slowly getting rid of the larrikins? symonds out of the aussie cricket team, now fevola gone. sure he does some stupid stuff but given he's kicked the best part of 100 goals in the last few years, + stayed drink free this season as per contract, i think they are cutting off their nose despite their face.

i don't follow any particular team but i believe there is still a lot of room in the game for a big full forward type player.

bad call for me.

[RG]

Bloody good call.

With Matty Lloyd retiring Essendon needs a new power forward.

Come on Knights, get this one right and pick him up lol.

[Windsor220]

It had to be done IMO. Similar to the Cousins scenario. He might be a good player but Fevola has stuffed up too many times now.

[ThePistonHead]

Originally Posted by RG

Bloody good call.

With Matty Lloyd retiring Essendon needs a new power forward.

Come on Knights, get this one right and pick him up lol.

Heck yes.

[Bossxr8]

Is there a team that could afford to fit him under their salary cap? He would be on big money.

The way I see it is Carlton could never win a premiership with someone like him anyway, his attitude is pathetic. If things don't go his way he carries on like an idiot and goes to pieces, not someone you can build a premiership team around.

I think he deserves whatever he gets, its not the fact he got tanked and made an idiot of himself, its the fact he has done it so many times and he knew he was on his last chance. If he's that dumb he doesn't deserve to play at all.

[Elks]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The way I see it is Carlton could never win a premiership with someone like him anyway, his attitude is pathetic. If things don't go his way he carries on like an idiot and goes to pieces, not someone you can build a premiership team around.

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100% agree. As a lifelong Carlton supporter, Fevs tantrums and hot and cold game play is enough reason to trade him. For the money he is paid to be a proffesional footballer it is not good enough to spit the dummy if things don't go his way. He can win or lose a game for the blues and you never know which.

To me the fact that he makes a public fool of himself and the club is important but secondary.

[T3ts50]

Originally Posted by RG

Bloody good call.

With Matty Lloyd retiring Essendon needs a new power forward.

Come on Knights, get this one right and pick him up lol.

I was saying the exact same thing to my mates.

[Kenaz]

Originally Posted by RG

Bloody good call.

With Matty Lloyd retiring Essendon needs a new power forward.

Come on Knights, get this one right and pick him up lol.

As much as I would love to see this happen I just don't think it will. Knights is very committed to the youth policy.

[RG]

Originally Posted by Kenaz

As much as I would love to see this happen I just don't think it will. Knights is very committed to the idiot policy.

Fixed.

[ToCo]

Terrible call on Carlton's behalf, good for the rest of the clubs though. They are lacking a power forward now, bit silly to throw away their leading goal kicker, and financially, not a good move either.

[Jack91]

About time, every few days you hear about some stupid football idiot doing something stupid, gets caught some how, gets a huge fine and banned from games, then does it again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again etc. About time they said enough is enough we're sick of dealing with you tools. I hate football with a passion so thats my understanding of the situation.

[prydey]

personally i think he's an ordinary aussie bloke. who hasn't got on the turps and done stupid things. the public put him up on a pedestal and then complain when he falls off.

during the season, he was pretty well behaved i thought, compared to previous years.

he will find another home, of that there is no doubt. names being thrown around already are sydney and port.

[4Vman]

He got drunk, mucked up.. big deal, he didnt punch on, take drugs or kill anyone.

That said ive never been able to understand how Carlton let him stay on the Footy show because he allways came across as the village idiot, i think he did more damage to Carlton (and his own image) on the footy show that at the Brownlow.

Ive also never been able to understand why Footy clubs, above other employers, are responsible for their employee's actions when they're outside of work... imagine a kid from Coles getting the boot because he got a skin load the night before and got locked up.

[Windsor220]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

he didnt punch on,

Word on the street is that there was a slight incident on Brownlow night that has not ben aired.

And he has had fights in the past.

[Franco Cozzo]

Carlton just comitted suicide.

[uranium_death]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

Ive also never been able to understand why Footy clubs, above other employers, are responsible for their employee's actions when they're outside of work... imagine a kid from Coles getting the boot because he got a skin load the night before and got locked up.

Because with their large pay-packets comes their public profile and image, which flows onto the football club. Football clubs want to be portrayed as family-friendly. If you had a young child following Carlton wearing the number 25 on their back, would you want them looking up to a drunken clown?

At the Brownlow Medal, Fevola was representing Carlton and acted like an idiot.

I think it's a great move that Carlton is actually putting him up for trade. Even if he isn't traded, Fevola will now realise that he's as expendable as anybody.

He's had that many chances, and even after becoming a father and turning 28 he still acts like a 15 year old. What a moron. He just doesn't get it.

I hope he writes a book...'I like Happy Juice'. I am sure the kids will love it. They can emulate that too, because after all, it isn't a big deal. :

[tickford2001]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

I think it's a great move that Carlton is actually putting him up for trade. Even if he isn't traded, Fevola will now realise that he's as expendable as anybody.

spot on!

[TUF_302]

Great move if you ask me!, he has more than enough chances to changes his idiotic ways and yet he keeps messing up!! : , hopefully he will learn from this!

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by uranium_death

Because with their large pay-packets comes their public profile and image, which flows onto the football club. Football clubs want to be portrayed as family-friendly. If you had a young child following Carlton wearing the number 25 on their back, would you want them looking up to a drunken clown?

At the Brownlow Medal, Fevola was representing Carlton and acted like an idiot.

I think it's a great move that Carlton is actually putting him up for trade. Even if he isn't traded, Fevola will now realise that he's as expendable as anybody.

He's had that many chances, and even after becoming a father and turning 28 he still acts like a 15 year old. What a moron. He just doesn't get it.

I hope he writes a book...'I like Happy Juice'. I am sure the kids will love it. They can emulate that too, because after all, it isn't a big deal. :

Agree with you on that, but i feel if he wasn't positioned so prominently under the media's nose we wouldn't hear about most of this, his involvement with the footyshow has exposed his lack of grey matter, and Carlton should have kept him away from the spotlight because blind freddy could see years ago he comes across as a dumb "jock"..
Carlton have made it hard for themselves by contracting him without "out" clauses..
For the money he's paid the club doesn't get enough in return from him in peripheral stuff like image etc.
Im not sure how he fits in at the club from a work ethic point of view either..
He might be able to kick goals but if he's a negative influence he'll be like a cancer there.

[gossy]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

He might be able to kick goals but if he's a negative influence he'll be like a cancer there.

Spot on mate.

I'm a Carlton fan, I've got blue blood, but I think it's time to let him go and concentrate on a new forward that doesn't detract and distract fellow team members.
We will have a new full forward who ever that may be, and they will kick goals just like Fev did, it comes with the territory.



RG, no tanking for CARLTON, leave that to Collingwood. :

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by gossy

Spot on mate.

I'm a Carlton fan, I've got blue blood, but I think it's time to let him go and concentrate on a new forward that doesn't detract and distract fellow team members.
We will have a new full forward who ever that may be, and they will kick goals just like Fev did, it comes with the territory.

Yep.
Ive worked with talented professional athletes/sports people all my life, and i can assure you just because they can appear to perform on court or on the field doesn't mean they're good for the group or the club.
Appearances can be deceiving, the dynamics on the training track and amongst team mates and the associated behind the scenes issues can over shadow the game performances which are often viewed in isolation by fans who arent privy to the goings on behind the scenes, and don't realise that the team may well perform better as a unit without their "star"..
Coaches are continually walking a fine line between discipline and nursing fragile gifted primadona's who often create more headaches than fans realise.
The problem with allowing people like these to get away with stuff is the example and resentment it creates amongst the playing group.

[AdzT3-146]

Originally Posted by gossy

RG, no tanking for CARLTON, leave that to Collingwood. :

lol, Carlton tanked for a few years to get blokes like Murphy & Gibbs, and who could forget the Matthew Kreuzer cup game against Melbourne a couple of years back :

Collingwood tanked once to get Scott Pendlebury and then went back into the finals.

As a pies fan I would love to see Fev in the black & white as it will get us that much closer to genuinely challenging for the flag.

[GK]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

He got drunk, mucked up.. big deal, he didnt punch on, take drugs or kill anyone.

Disagree. A poor role model. He should have had some more self-control, especially as he's been a repeat offender.

Originally Posted by 4Vman

That said ive never been able to understand how Carlton let him stay on the Footy show because he allways came across as the village idiot, i think he did more damage to Carlton (and his own image) on the footy show that at the Brownlow.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Windsor220

It had to be done IMO. Similar to the Cousins scenario. He might be a good player but Fevola has stuffed up too many times now.

For sure.

In the end, you reap what you sow. It's reaping time. It just may be the jolt the guy needs to rise above some of his personal deficiencies and start to play his best football yet.

GK

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

He got drunk, mucked up.. big deal, he didnt punch on, take drugs or kill anyone.

That said ive never been able to understand how Carlton let him stay on the Footy show because he allways came across as the village idiot, i think he did more damage to Carlton (and his own image) on the footy show that at the Brownlow.

Ive also never been able to understand why Footy clubs, above other employers, are responsible for their employee's actions when they're outside of work... imagine a kid from Coles getting the boot because he got a skin load the night before and got locked up.

I never understood this.

Alcohol is a drug and affects the dopamine just like every other drug out there with the exception of marijuana (the safest, affecting a part of the brain designed to process marijuana thus not altering any organs/glands from their primary function). Being drunk is the high you get from ingesting alcohol.
Cigarettes are also a drug, an incredibly useless drug where you get next to no effects from something that's proven to be more addictive than heroin and cause more deaths.
Not only that but alcohol one of the most dangerous recreational drugs out there and is often compared to cocaine.

So 1 drugs fine but the others aren't?

[RG]

Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

I never understood this.

Alcohol is a drug and affects the dopamine just like every other drug out there with the exception of marijuana (the safest, affecting a part of the brain designed to process marijuana thus not altering any organs/glands from their primary function). Being drunk is the high you get from ingesting alcohol.
Cigarettes are also a drug, an incredibly useless drug where you get next to no effects from something that's proven to be more addictive than heroin and cause more deaths.
Not only that but alcohol one of the most dangerous recreational drugs out there and is often compared to cocaine.

So 1 drugs fine but the others aren't?

You really are starting to worry me, although things make a little more sense now given some of your statements above.

Isn't it quite peculiar how one attempting to come across as an intelligent being often fails to do so, instead coming across a little too 'try-hard'.

[ILLaViTaR]

Originally Posted by RG

You really are starting to worry me, although things make a little more sense now given some of your statements above.

Isn't it quite peculiar how one attempting to come across as an intelligent being often fails to do so, instead coming across a little too 'try-hard'.

Please elaborate on how what I said is worrying?

I was pointing out that he finds alcohol appropriate, yet detests other drugs and stereotypes all but alcohol into 1 group (the scum of the earth group).

Lets talk about one of the drugs you've stereotyped into the category of despicable evil. marijuana.
Here's an article based on a well known scientific study from the mid 90's.
http://www.marijuanalibrary.org/brain2.html.
Bet you didn't know humans used it for 5000yrs until 80yrs ago, the same time cancer appeared in our species. Many believe cancer is a side effect of this, and scientific proof has just come out describing how it kills tumors and cancerous cells, and strengthens immune cells SOURCE: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0401181217.htm

Everything I stated is true, research it yourself, now you're the one who doesn't look intelligent. I'm the last thing to a try hard mate, I see a common misconception and point out how it really is. I live my life by science, it's never wrong (Scientific evidence not to be confused with Scientific theories like the big bang).

A misconception results in people (or in this case a drug) receiving blame while others in the same category yet more harmful are socially acceptable for what reason??? Please give me one? Why should alcohol be legal compared to a drug that hasn't even had 1 recorded death EVER?

And no I've only tried the typical joint, won't be doing cocaine ever it's a hard drug like alcohol is. But nice try at attempting to make me lose all my credibility by stereotyping me into some drug cocktail hippy.
I'm not condoning use of illegal drugs, I'm pointing out scientific facts, and if people are too immature and oversensitive to understand that then simply don't get involved. The only reason I brought this up was to discredit you, not promote anything, as I found your comment "although things make a little more sense now given some of your statements above." To be nothing less of an immature typical generalisation with the sole purpose of a direct insult. Grow up.

http://www.saferchoice.org/content/view/24/53/

Let me guess. It's all propaganda isn't it? Just like how the Earth is round.
It's science, you don't just believe it when it suits you mate.

Debate this at your own risk. (And do it through PM please because I can debate all night about this)

[RG]

Illavitar you have been smoking WAAAY too much of the green stuff it would seem.

I could go and find some research that goes against everything you said there, but then this thread isn't about weed (nothing to do with it actually) and I don't really care.

[Fordman]

Shocking, Blues have a premiership winning structure, they need to keep him.

[falzoony]

Now Judd has to kick all the goals aswell!
It's a shame they got rid of him as the team was finally getting itself together and IMO Fev was a part of that. I was hoping they would be a good top 8 side next year, the die-hard fans deserve it. Seems like a step back.

[rodderz]

He can still be playing with Carlton next year- if they don't get a fair trade deal with another club they can offer Fev a new deal at a reduced price....could be smart but also bad in losing a good foreward.

A good player but as dumb as a post...on the footy show he tried to be smart like sammy but ended up looking like an idiot.