VE Launch - LIVE STREAM - Sunday 16th July @ 10.30am

[klawsterfobik]

new astra has a flick key too blackahcdx not that special.

[blackahcdx]

Originally Posted by klawsterfobik

new astra has a flick key too blackahcdx not that special.

well duh, i own one :p

also much better than ford seperate key and central locking control fob. Do they still do that? i cant recal seeing a BF key, anyone got a pic?

[chich]

Originally Posted by klawsterfobik

settle down you two, so far we've had a good discussion on a topic that usually turns to **** after 10 posts.

Some people just need to take a reality check and realise that each car needs to judged on its merits. We havn't seen the base model as yet, havn't read any reviews on it yet, havn't driven it yet and havn't even seen the thing in the flesh as yet and people are already getting all defensive and making absurd remarks. The Ford will be better than the VE in some aspects and vice-versa. Unfortunately the problem is most Ford fans can't accept the possibility of anything being better than their Ford for some reason...

Anyways - enough ranting and raving from me :

[Sloth]

Usually Holden do some pretty good wheel designs but the ones on the Statesman and Caprice.... :

I like the Audi-esque pedals in the SS too, nice change from the ones with the round bits in them. I like the classy looking interiors so far apart from the ghastly coloured dash in the SS.

Still undecided on the exterior, seems to have quite a short bonnet which looks odd at some angles. Overall the design looks quite 'safe' which is good as It doesnt date the BF too much.

I will be interested to see the rest of the range.

[Lukeyson]

damn took ages to read this thread. The first 8 pages or so are posts saying how many people were reading this thread though ;)

Meh not $1Billion worth me thinks. But one of the better looking commo range.

Speedo for SS goes upto 280kph ! wonder if that govt tosspot will go to town about that like he did with the 270kph on the F6 !@

[Dazza TT]

Originally Posted by blackahcdx

also much better than ford seperate key and central locking control fob.

I would rather have a separate remote, than have the combined Key/Remote of the Holden. When the battery runs out, you cannot start the car!
Have seen cars travel over 500klm from remote areas due to a flat key battery. :dr_Evil:

[HSE2]

[QUOTE=Shockwave XR8]Here Ian, I have downloaded it and edited it to reduce file size etc.:


Thanks. What was I doing wrong?

I assume that display is multi facet??

[Silver Ghia]

From what I've seen so far, I still love my Ghia, and I dont intend replacing it soon. It drives sooo well with my new tyres.

I like the split fold rear seat in my Ghia which I can regularly take larger loads in the boot, and it looks like the cruise controls which I use all the time, are still better than on the new Commode.

Will be interesting to see the road test and comparison write ups.

[blackahcdx]

Originally Posted by XR8fella

damn took ages to read this thread. The first 8 pages or so are posts saying how many people were reading this thread though ;)

Meh not $1Billion worth me thinks. But one of the better looking commo range.

Speedo for SS goes upto 280kph ! wonder if that govt tosspot will go to town about that like he did with the 270kph on the F6 !@

****ing Harold ****ing Scruby wishes he was part of the Govt. He's nothing but a toss pot who likes to big note himself when in fact he knows nothing about diddly squat. :

[blackahcdx]

Originally Posted by Phoon Hoon

That's right - said by Holden media.

R U calling Wheels and Motor Holden Media? :

[HSE2]

Originally Posted by Darran

I would rather have a separate remote, than have the combined Key/Remote of the Holden. When the battery runs out, you cannot start the car!
Have seen cars travel over 500klm from remote areas due to a flat key battery. :dr_Evil:

I vote for the switch blade type fob. I got used to them with LR and Jaguar products but they are very expensive to replace. Fob with separate key is pointless today.

If you are familiar with the current Holden key, anything is better then the monstrosity they use today.

[Ozfords]

Originally Posted by blackahcdx

Whats is with that Camry-esqe wedge type appearance, you know how the nose starts low and that line in the body just keeps on going higher until it reaches the peak of the boot.

Seriously for a billion or so I was expecting some sort of visual design re-tweaking, instead it looks like it has borrowed from Astra (more from Astra than BF), 380 (steering and rear lights) and that Camry type appearance.

But we still don't know how it handles itself on the track, c'mon Motor and Wheels, spill dem beans!

[imugli]

TBH I'm not that impressed. The Calais has BA / BF written all over the front end. The Rear quarter panels don't seem to blend well at all. Overall agree with the comments that it looks like a Vectra on steroids. Interior - Don't like the multi coloured dash / glove box thing they have happening, and the dash display itself is questionable at best IMO. $1 billion must have bought a whole truck load of r & d work on NVH, because It certainly hasn't improved the exterior or interior design that much... Just my 2 cents worth.

[blackahcdx]

check out www.drive.com.au/ve to see lots of videos of all VE Models, including first look at Omega and Berlina.

[anto]

Originally Posted by chich

HAHAHAHAHAHA poor mans BF - yeah no worries mate. If the BF is your epitome of style and grace then something is very very wrong with you.

You call that an atrocious interior? Go sit in a BA/BF for a while and absorb the acres of hard, crap, el-cheapo plastic.

oh I must have hurt the holden guys feelings with an opinion..

Well I guess there must be something wrong with me _ . because as far as I'm concerned GMH = poor styling, always has and always will . The interior styling is poor especially for a new generation car, flat and squared off console, dorky handbrake, ugly looking wheel, oversize buttons and switches, why so big ? and best of all color coded dash..LMAO. :
I do have a BA Ghia and its a damn site better looking than that steamer is, inside and out !

but thats just my lowly opinion of course...

[superroo]

Here are some photo's that i took at the ve launch today. I was able to attend because my brother works at holden.
The quality of the photo's are not the best, but thats due to them being taken with a camera phone

Here the link to the photo album there in

Page 1

Page 2

Page 3

Page 4

Notice that i was able to get some under car shots, at an attempt to see the running gear.

Cheers

[BlueRaven]

I think that overall its a good looking car. That has some weird design choices.

The problem is that while I think that car looks alright. It doesn't say 2006 to me. At all. It says 2003...maybe. It looks no more modern than the BA for instance...which every year is getting more and more long in the tooth.

I wait now to see what the new Falcon will look like even more, because I would love to see a new fresh design vs a tired looking holden. Again.

[Boss 290]

Originally Posted by DanielXR8

Some people appreciate cars and can see beyond the badge. Otherwise what is the incentive for Ford to improve its products if the same old crowd will buy whatever they make. Holden getting better product is good for all of us and for me anyway, I buy what I like and not just because it has a blue oval on it. I like cars not just Ford.

Daniel
BA GT
TS Territory

i have no promblem with people admiring the cars..i too like some holdens but i aint prepaired to put em on a pedestol so much..y be so happy about it.i joined ford forums to hear about FORDS. i do like other cars eg exotic cars.but when it comes to cars in fords price range..its ford all the way. besides most holden fans bag the s*** out of ford.

[Laminge]

Just subscribing to the thread, I'm sure there going to be some half witted post that will close the thread down at some stage.

[MRJUCY]

It's hard to judge of those photos but the interior looks horendous, the current Commodore looks at least 10 years behind any other vehicle on the market but it looks like amazingly enough they've made a step backwards.

[sbeaugs]

mmmm maybe it is not going to be VE
because when ever the holden boss guy intoduced a car it was a "2006 commodore ......"
as far as i heard he never called it a VE even in the interveiw
maybe like Ford did with the BA they let eveyone call it a AV until final launch

just something to ponder

[Jock260]

nice effort on the pics mate cheers

[Falcon_Phill]

For a ford forum, there sure is alot of holden topics.

[sfr rob]

it looks ok i guess.....no where near as tough as the current performance models though.
Just wait till the 310kw hsv's come rolling out, then there will be something worth talking about i reckon!

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by Falcon_Phill

For a ford forum, there sure is alot of holden topics.

Keep you're friends close, and you're enemies closer... :evil_laug

[Silver Ghia]

People had similar reactions to the VY when it first came out. But then they started getting used to the design, and with the VZ it became quite a good seller.

I still love my Ghia though.

[Full Spectrum]

Originally Posted by willow 1

I can't believe they stole the ba,bf headlights how pathetic!!!Lookin more like the new fords!!!how scary!!! :Up_to_som

Yeah yeah yeah, And The BF Ghia stole the Fog lights from Holden and the tear drops to:P
It never ends;)

[AnthonyQLD]

Thanks for the pictures

[fmc351]

Boot looks smaller than the astra

http://groups.msn.com/FordFalconGTs/...to&PhotoID=113Statesman front looks like a lexus with a hyundai grill.

Commy fans will love it. Oh fer the love of rice.

[Van D]

That stateman is uuuuggggly!

Personally, i'm glad to say, that I think Ford has a far better looking model for once.. Just hope they don't screw up the Orion.