New Ranger teaser vidz

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Carexpert will have videos and information going live at 6pm so keep an eye out

[jpd80]

youtube.com/watch?v=DA340r7cseo… #NextGenRangerRaptor

3.0 TT Ecoboost V6, front & rear locking differentials

[Fordman1]

Originally Posted by JPFS1

Raptor isn't getting 3L

How’d you go old mate ?

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by JPFS1

Raptor isn't getting 3L

Brah....
Things that didn’t age well.


The Raptor looks mad. I guess it is finally on my shortlist for my next 4x4.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Fordman1

How’d you go old mate ?

I wonder if the Raptor power train module was developed and amortised across three vehicles…

Cause two outa three ain’t bad….

[FPV8U]

Spotted a next Gen ranger in the wild today in a small rural town about 2-2.5h east of Melbourne.

Wildtrak spec in the hero orange colour, looked absolutely sensational, sadly I had no time to stop and have a proper look at it.

[Bossxr8]

Good story about Trevor Worthington and local PD operations in the new Wheels.

Interesting comment from him, saying the new Ranger is capable of hybrid, plug in hybrid AND EV.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Good story about Trevor Worthington and local PD operations in the new Wheels.

Interesting comment from him, saying the new Ranger is capable of hybrid, plug in hybrid AND EV.

You know if they do an EV, I'll be there first person in line for one!

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[jpd80]

I’m getting a Lightning mini me vibe……

[FlipXW]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Good story about Trevor Worthington and local PD operations in the new Wheels.

Interesting comment from him, saying the new Ranger is capable of hybrid, plug in hybrid AND EV.

They should release them now. I get why they probably won’t, they don’t need to yet and it’s a great mid life update that will get everyone upgrading again but it would be awesome to do it now and really catch everyone with their pants down. Nothing to say it’s even ready to go now though I suppose.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by FlipXW

They should release them now. I get why they probably won’t, they don’t need to yet and it’s a great mid life update that will get everyone upgrading again but it would be awesome to do it now and really catch everyone with their pants down. Nothing to say it’s even ready to go now though I suppose.

I agree. There are no 4x4 EVs on the market at the moment. Ford has a unique opportunity to strike first in this market. I can't understand why they wouldn't

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[simon varley]

Originally Posted by kypez

I can't understand why they wouldn't

time. money. resource. the last three years have been insane developing and launching ranger, raptor, amarok and everest globally in the middle of a pandemic. we need at least a little breather before we start electrifying the new platform.

[jpd80]

Ford has big issues getting enough hybrid and BEV battery supply at the moment, let alone adding Ranger to the mix

[kypez]

Originally Posted by simon varley

time. money. resource. the last three years have been insane developing and launching ranger, raptor, amarok and everest globally in the middle of a pandemic. we need at least a little breather before we start electrifying the new platform.

Problem is, Rivian and others will arrive by the time Ford gets it sorted. They will lose their advantage. My money (and a lot of people I know) will jump at the first 4x4 that makes it to market with an EV driveline. Thousands of Cybertruck reservation holders are in this bucket as well.

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[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Ford has big issues getting enough hybrid and BEV battery supply at the moment, let alone adding Ranger to the mix

Yeah it's kind of just about trying to get by until the new battery plants come online in a couple of years.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Yeah it's kind of just about trying to get by until the new battery plants come online in a couple of years.

Absolute disaster in China at the moment with Mustang Mach E unable to get enough batteries
all because someone high up thought Ford could just get all its batteries from one supplier

[jpd80]

PX3 production ends in March, Everest in May

https://www.drive.com.au/news/curren...verest-in-may/

[prydey]

Originally Posted by kypez

Problem is, Rivian

I thought Ford joined up with Rivian, but a quick google shows they cancelled that deal late last year. Seems they kept the investment though. Seems odd to tip $14.4m into a start up company and then produce vehicles that rival each other.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by prydey

I thought Ford joined up with Rivian, but a quick google shows they cancelled that deal late last year. Seems they kept the investment though. Seems odd to tip $14.4m into a start up company and then produce vehicles that rival each other.

A significant part of their profit from 2021 was due to that investment. I don't understand why they wouldn't leverage Rivian. I don't understand their direction to be honest.

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[jpd80]

Originally Posted by kypez

A significant part of their profit from 2021 was due to that investment. I don't understand why they wouldn't leverage Rivian. I don't understand their direction to be honest.

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Rivian stock has experienced a significant drop, Ford will be listing it as a big negative special item in Q1 2022.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by prydey

I thought Ford joined up with Rivian, but a quick google shows they cancelled that deal late last year. Seems they kept the investment though. Seems odd to tip $14.4m into a start up company and then produce vehicles that rival each other.

To steal their tech probably.

They would have made a very significant return on investment if they had of sold their shares a couple of months ago. They invested 1.2 billion and it ended up being worth over 10 billion in december last year.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rly%20December.


Ford, which has invested a total of $1.2 billion in Rivian since early 2019, has a 12% stake that the company has said was valued at more than $10 billion in early December.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by prydey

I thought Ford joined up with Rivian, but a quick google shows they cancelled that deal late last year. Seems they kept the investment though. Seems odd to tip $14.4m into a start up company and then produce vehicles that rival each other.

The whole thing hit a brick wall when the electronics were deemed incompatible with what Ford uses.
From that time on, the proposed Lincoln SUV was scrubbed as well as the potential Mid Sized Pickup.
What Ford thought was gold turned to poo in their hands and now their investment is losing value…

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

To steal their tech probably.

They would have made a very significant return on investment if they had of sold their shares a couple of months ago. They invested 1.2 billion and it ended up being worth over 10 billion in december last year.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...rly%20December.


Ford, which has invested a total of $1.2 billion in Rivian since early 2019, has a 12% stake that the company has said was valued at more than $10 billion in early December.

They weren’t permitted to sell inside six months after the IPO plus they were compelled
to advise cancellation of Lincoln SUV. Once that news leaked out plus the slow start to R1T
production, the stock value began to slide, it might come back if they start building stuff…

[JKL]

Tried to put a deposit on a XLS V6 in Meteor Grey 4x4, was told all we can do is take your details and confirm once we have pricing and driveline specs, they did confirm, XLT hi rider 4x2 would only be bi turbo - let’s hope XLS gets the V6? Any have a definite answer?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by JKL

Tried to put a deposit on a XLS V6 in Meteor Grey 4x4, was told all we can do is take your details and confirm once we have pricing and driveline specs, they did confirm, XLT hi rider 4x2 would only be bi turbo - let’s hope XLS gets the V6? Any have a definite answer?

Ford has indicated that the V6 diesel will be an option across the range but no word on the pricing…
It will be interesting to see the split out on who sticks with 2.0 and how many go the V6.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Ford has indicated that the V6 diesel will be an option across the range but no word on the pricing…
It will be interesting to see the split out on who sticks with 2.0 and how many go the V6.

In the US when the V6 diesel was available Ford charged around $USD4,000 ($AUS5,600) as an option over the stock base petrol engine, interestingly the 3.5L V6 Ecoboost was a $USD600 option.

I'm hoping they stick to a similar price level now as obviously too high a jump and they'll stall sales of it, plus here it will be an option over a stock diesel engine, not an option over a much cheaper petrol engine. I'd imagine fuel economy won't be too much more with its larger capacity high torque just off idle in the normally more thirsty situation of low average speed stop/start driving.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

In the US when the V6 diesel was available Ford charged around $USD4,000 ($AUS5,600) as an option over the stock base petrol engine, interestingly the 3.5L V6 Ecoboost was a $USD600 option.

I'm hoping they stick to a similar price level now as obviously too high a jump and they'll stall sales of it, plus here it will be an option over a stock diesel engine, not an option over a much cheaper petrol engine. I'd imagine fuel economy won't be too much more with its larger capacity high torque just off idle in the normally more thirsty situation of low average speed stop/start driving.

Following your logic, the 2.0 diesel is more expensive than a petrol engine, so the gap to the V6 diesel should be less than US$4,000 (AUS $6,000),so maybe AUS$3,500-$4,000?

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Following your logic, the 2.0 diesel is more expensive than a petrol engine, so the gap to the V6 diesel should be less than US$4,000 (AUS $6,000),so maybe AUS$3,500-$4,000?

Hopefully my logic makes sense...
I just think if Ford play it smart and not too greedy they can wipe the opposition until they catch up. If the UK engine plant isn't supplying the US for F-150's anymore they need the orders for the Lion V6 from Australian and global markets for Ranger/Everest or it gets axed I'd assume.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Hopefully my logic makes sense...
I just think if Ford play it smart and not too greedy they can wipe the opposition until they catch up. If the UK engine plant isn't supplying the US for F-150's anymore they need the orders for the Lion V6 from Australian and global markets for Ranger/Everest or it gets axed I'd assume.

Ranger and Everest are now the only vehicles using the 3.0 Powerstroke, the only thing saving it from extinction.
So it would be in Ford’s bets interest to keep sales as buoyant as possible….

[Giant Cranium]

New raptor looks great. Looks much larger than the current one and better finished