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Old 30-09-2010, 06:36 PM   #1
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Is it just me or does it seem the new age world seems very daunting

We are getting all these interweb scams,internet banking scams,people getting viruses on computers (seeking and destroying info)pushing more paper less society (minimal cash)
Cars ect that people cant fix themselves
Putting airbags,abs,ect ect in cars to compensate for incompodent (spelling)drivers
People that write "2" instead of too or two

I thought as we have been told ,its the way of the future

What happened to the old ways,(were they REALLY better)
Where you looked at a car first,if you liked it you bought it
Sitting around every 2nd thursday nite ,
Dropping a few beers bench racing over a new edition of the trading post

If you were chasing something ,
You either rang people or popped over in person
Texting and email,
Is this for lazy people

I know things are supposed to be better with the interweb (evilbay ect)
Although its good,seems alot are getting burned

Is it just me,or am i the only one preferring the old ways

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Old 30-09-2010, 06:41 PM   #2
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Ironically 50 years from now people will probably be looking back at today, and remembering "the old days".

It's an evolutionary thing IMO.
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Too me it just seems a bit ironic that you prefered the old days rather then the new age of internet ect, and you make this statement on a internet Forum

I'm 18 so i cant really agree with you.
Im in the main stream of facebooking on my phone, spending $60 for a T shirt that has a little brand name on it and love texting.
Evolution says its a good thing
Maybe the old blokes when you where a youngin where thinking the exact same thing?
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Old 30-09-2010, 07:07 PM   #5
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Is it just me or does it seem the new age world seems very daunting

We are getting all these interweb scams,internet banking scams,people getting viruses on computers (seeking and destroying info)
People 'ghosted' phones long before the internet. People also did scams over telegraph, and through written letters too. Ever heard of Charles Ponzi?

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pushing more paper less society (minimal cash)
Damn good thing. It's been a long time since paper notes, so the Trees don't suffer much these days, but do you have any idea how many horribly toxic chemicals go into manufacturing plastic notes that we use these days?
Not to say that the computer manufacturing process isn't any better... Because that's a million times worse... but still, it's actually fantastic that we are moving away from cash. It's not like it has a gold exchange value anyway, it's been nothing more than worthless monopoly money for nearly 100 years now.

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Cars ect that people cant fix themselves
Probably a good thing considering the drop in people with technical skills over the last few decades...

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Putting airbags,abs,ect ect in cars to compensate for incompetent (spelling)drivers
You don't have to be incompetent to have a front left blow out at 110kph. I would think air bags are quite a good thing. They suck when they go off when you're taking a steering wheel off however.

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People that write "2" instead of too or two
A by-product of the technology. 160 character limits in sms, it has it's downsides.

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What happened to the old ways,(were they REALLY better)
Yeah I sure do miss Polio and Scurvy. And it's been a while since we've had a really good leprosy outbreak.


I still go visit my mates, go camping on the weekend, fill my fridge with roo that I shoot and butcher myself, breed marron, fix problems on my 2006 focus myself (generally), paint with oils on canvas, use my 35mm SLR, ride my bike, walk to the shop, and I even wash my own clothes and dishes.

The modern world has made things absolutely wonderful, but there's no excuse for being lazy, and you can't point the blame at technology. I own four computers, a smart phone, and am a graphics artist by trade. I conduct pretty much all my work online, and use my mobile as a primary over my landline.

The problem is useless shytes of parents that don't teach their kids to be well-rounded self sufficient human beings. Blaming technology is a cop out. The sewing machine is around 200 years old now, but people still know how to sew with a needle and thread.




I just want to point out as well, that if you can't tell a scam on the internet, you would be much safer sending your computer back to Dell and getting an abacus instead - internet is srs bizniss, k?
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Old 30-09-2010, 07:12 PM   #6
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Ironically 50 years from now people will probably be looking back at today, and remembering "the old days".

It's an evolutionary thing IMO.
This.
I bet 40 years ago all the fossils where wishing for the good ol' days(1920's etc) and it will continue on in this vein for each generation. I just wish the generation that's raising the current one would stop complaining about them. Not saying the OP is. Just saying.
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incompodent (spelling)drivers
People that write "2" instead of too or two
Man, I had a good laugh ...
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

talking to us about the correct use of "homophones" and making the same mistake yourself ... then talking about lazy people but you're too lazy to look up how to spell "incompetent" correctly.

cheers...

PS, it all comes down to one thing as the other posters have mentioned...
laziness...

you don't need to learn how to use a screwdriver or a hammer to fix something... just pick the bloody thing up and use it ...

I'm in "IT" so I can't knock the new tech stuff, but I blame the parents for not teaching the young ones the 2 most important lessons they can possibly learn...

1) common sense
2) common courtesy
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I hear ya. I integrate both.

Recently bought a new car. Found it on carsales, checked the pictures for signs that would identify where the yard was. Found a phone number on a building opposite which I plugged into Google. Found an address. Rocked up, checked out the car, bought it. Had I not found any identifying features, I probably wouldn't have bothered with it (and not ended up with a car that had a knock in the rear...)

I like to negotiate my large cash sales face to face but I don't shy away from the technology.
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And people who don't put "I am going to arrive at 8pm" but write "Am arriving 8pm". Bloody telegrams, ruining the Queen's English. Oh for the good old days when people would write a letter with their stationery set. Oh oh ohhhh



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Oh for the good old days when people would write a letter with their stationery set.
Got my new blackberry stationary set a couple of weeks back. Its awesome, I'm just like the girls on The Hills

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The old ways you mean where:

You tied up your horse out front, & helped your lady out of the carriage?

Were scammed out of money by a shady character in a suit & top hat selling you the latest & greatest wire for your cattle fence?

When you spoke to people, you addressed them as "my good sir" & "mam" whether you held them in high regard or not?
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I think the "modern" person these days has got it easy in one way and difficult in another.

Technology makes things easier for sure and saves us "time", however this time we "save" is simply spent doing more work then what we wouldve done 30yrs ago when we had to do things more manually.... so in fact the time savers we all marvel at, actually makes us work more. (worse if your an employee as your now expected to work more because its "easier/quicker" to finish a job, therefor make the boss more money)

It also makes us lazy, in that we loose some of our people and motive skills.
ie: why go shopping when you can sit ya lazy *** at home and order online?

Before the advent of mobile phones being out of contact for hours on end wasnt a drama. As kids we would disappear ALL day on a weekend....
Now of course a 7yr old is given a phone so the parents apparently feel safer?

When you sent a letter you actually used a pen and wrote as neat as possible.
I shudder today at the poor hand writing skills by most 20 somethings.

People would buy things with cash... OMG... and you know why, because they ACTUALLY had the money. Now people with no money or who can least afford it spend spend spend on the 20credit cards they have without a care in the world.

Buying a car was big deal. Now 12months later people buy another, usually because their current car is thrashed to buggery, but why care? they didnt pay it off using their hard earned cash and will just refinance again...

Buying a house was affordable... Now people arent happy unless their house is bigger then 5bedrooms 3 baths, 2 garages and a pool. People dont blink at spending nearly a million at the age of 25 for a house in sydney.
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Putting airbags,abs,ect ect in cars to compensate for incompodent


I love it, i thought i was the only one that felt this way.
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1990s - best decade of modern times before everyone turned silly and money meant everything.

Still had freedom, still had Seinfeld, still had great music.

This is coming from a 26 year old!
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I am sure as others have said, that our parents probably thought their generation was the best.

I remember my parents asking how I could listen to AC/DC as it was just a load of noisy rubbish.

I caught myself sounding like my mum today, asking my son how he could sit and listen to "that rubbish" music he was listening too.

I got caught in a parenting timewarp! Scared myself...
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Whaddya mean? It still bloody does, look at Ben Affleck's line from Boiler Room, "those who say money doesnt matter, doesnt effin have any" & its still true today. Look at anyone who says that at how much they have in cash or liquidable assets. My ex-girlfriends parents are a prime example.

No money, no house, no assets, no recurring income, he is still working. They are both in their 60's & they have nothing to show for all those years.... & they are going to get a rude shock when he retires & they have to live on super.... 65 & have to die..... Fantastic position to be in.

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In the good old days you could buy a house in the suburb for three years wages, now it's ten years wages. In the good old days you had free university, now you pay it off until you are 40. In the good old days there was a pension, you can see where this is heading........

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Still had freedom, still had Seinfeld, still had great music.

This is coming from a 26 year old!
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Oh, the ironing.

Complaining about modern technology and using the internet to do it.
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Complaining about modern technology and using the internet to do it.
Ironing, or irony?
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I am sure as others have said, that our parents probably thought their generation was the best.

I remember my parents asking how I could listen to AC/DC as it was just a load of noisy rubbish.

I caught myself sounding like my mum today, asking my son how he could sit and listen to "that rubbish" music he was listening too.

I got caught in a parenting timewarp! Scared myself...
Classic! LOL!

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Whaddya mean? It still bloody does, look at Ben Affleck's line from Boiler Room, "those who say money doesnt matter, doesnt effin have any" & its still true today. Look at anyone who says that at how much they have in cash or liquidable assets. My ex-girlfriends parents are a prime example.

No money, no house, no assets, no recurring income, he is still working. They are both in their 60's & they have nothing to show for all those years.... & they are going to get a rude shock when he retires & they have to live on super.... 65 & have to die..... Fantastic position to be in.
I admit that would not be the best position to be in.

If the quality of their relationships with others are good though, and they have awesome memories to share, then their lives haven't been in the state of vain that you suggest.

If however, their relationships are all mucked up and they're unhappy, then it would seem they've made some poor choices all round. I hope that's not the case.

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Wow , can ya feeel the love

Gee that ol fence rail must be sagging with all the fence sitters

Just a few points,
Do parents nowadays feel safer knowing there young kids have phones as opposed to 20-30 years ago when society was safer (or was it safer)???

Im not saying technology is a bad thing (or is it)
If something is broke,jump on line find how to fix it
Rather than pull it apart and have a go
Im over people goin on about "Oh our busy life style" what a load of rubbish
If these people where not up to their necks in debt,they wouldnt need to be working 24/7 !!!
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You do have some valid points 302XC I admit, however your examples leave much to be desired.

Yes there are far too many people who live to work not work to live. But that's their prerogative, just ignore them.

But as for fence sitters? How about 'best of both worlds'? or 'using all things at your disposal to your advantage'? etc. That's what I do, i mean yes this world is changing, but the telephone and the post still exists and works just as well as it ever did.

And as for mobile phones, before them, when i was in primary, my mum used to give me a phonecard so if i got stuck i could just call her up.
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If these people where not up to their necks in debt,they wouldnt need to be working 24/7 !!!
A lot of people live beyond their means it seems.... go to the "rich" suburbs and watch how the million dollar homes are up for sale every 12months because people over extend and buy something they cant afford or are constantly moving because they no longer like their house... (its never a home).
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depends how you look at it we used to go out 3 times a week trying to meet girls dancing etc etc . now you can get on a net site and name your thing , anything goes , and wait for the replies . sex on tap, find a wife, etc etc . i guess i prefer the old ways but can see the benifits for singles with this lazy way , as bad as it is , there would be no reason not to be in some sort of social circle , if you get out of your chair though .
aside from that , it seems to be a more individual lonely world , because there isnt any reason to do anything like fix a car etc etc . it's almost all plug and play , with consumerable parts in every area of life these days .
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When I was growing up overseas:
  • We had one of those big black telephones with the big dial on the front, and only rich people had two home phones
  • Our dad taught us to shoot with a Beretta handgun in the backyard
  • We had a sand pit which my kid brother (now 33) would pee in while we were playing because he couldn't be bothered to go inside to use the loo
  • We each had a designated lawn mowing day, and if we didn't do it we'd have no Atari (and Nintendo later on) for a week.
  • Poor grades meant no TV or video games for a month, plus 10 lashes from my dad's wide leather belt
  • My brothers and I would shoot bottle rockets at each other from our forts which were cobbled together from bricks, plywood and outdoor furniture

These days:
  • Elementary school kids worry that they're not cool because they don't have an iPhone
  • Shooting live ammo in a suburban backyard will get you arrested
  • Peeing in the sand pit is "frowned upon"
  • Most kids can't be bothered to mow the lawn, they're too busy with their Xboxes and PS3s
  • Kids watch TV, play games, and surf the Net on their phones, and corporal punishment is considered child abuse
  • If kids shot bottle rockets at each other, it would end up on the news or Today Tonight and there would be a public outcry and firecrackers would be banned... oh wait...

At the risk of sounding like an old fogey (I'm 35), sometimes I miss the old days, especially since you couldn't graduate if you didn't know how to read or write.

EDIT: And these days, old Sesame Street episodes are considered PG! What's up with that?
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