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28-03-2014, 05:26 PM | #1 | |||
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A small excerpt taken from the Global Ford Warranty Fusion program WHAT IS NOT COVERED UNDER THE NEW VEHICLE LIMITED WARRANTY? Damage Caused By: • accidents, collision or objects striking the vehicle (including driving through a car wash) • theft, vandalism, or riot • fire or explosion • using contaminated or improper fuel/fluids • customer-applied chemicals or accidental spills • driving through water deep enough to cause water to be ingested into the engine • misuse of the vehicle, such a driving over curbs, overloading, racing or using the vehicle as a permanent stationary power source You play - you pay - they need to prove it of course - but I reckon it pretty much sums it up. At the end of the day - they are passenger cars designed for moderate use and they have limitations. You exceed them and things break. 100+ passes at the drag strip would be construed as racing and as such would void your warranty on driveline damage because its outside of the vehicle's intended use. |
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28-03-2014, 03:27 PM | #2 | ||
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Cause 100 passes in a stock car would probably get pretty boring after a while.
It's an educated risk, not everyone has the money to do power AND a bullet proof driveline.
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28-03-2014, 05:03 PM | #3 | ||
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So where does that leave me???
400+ rwkw, standard engine ((appart from valvesprings (Hi Mick)), standard zf driven daily (500+ klms per week) over 150 passes has run over 100 low to flat 11 sec passes and 3 10 sec passes. Is my car a reliable 10 sec car??? I'm confused...........
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28-03-2014, 05:37 PM | #4 | |||
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But theres more than a few out there that wouldnt go a few passes without breaking something. |
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28-03-2014, 09:43 PM | #5 | ||
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I don't understand what point you are trying to make in any of your threads Benito/hulk but they do make for an interesting read
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29-03-2014, 03:23 PM | #6 | ||
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'Reliable' cars break down on the street too. Some parts can let go without any warning or symptoms leading to a failure.
Drag strips are very hard on a cars driveline and suspension, so 100 passes is a solid effort for a strip car. However, I think calling it reliable or not is inaccurate term. If an individual has taken their car for over 100 passes, they would likely be an enthusiast who works on and loves their car. To me it would be a testament to the owners dedication and knowledge of their vehicle, and how well they look after it.
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30-03-2014, 08:54 AM | #7 | ||
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30-03-2014, 07:38 PM | #8 | |||
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31-03-2014, 08:50 AM | #10 | |||
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Ive read too many threads about bent rods or burnt pistons and the owner scratching their heads as to why? Maybe they dont fully understand. |
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31-03-2014, 12:11 PM | #11 | |||
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30-03-2014, 10:01 PM | #12 | ||
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For someone who doesn't race you've got a lot of very misinformed opinions on it.
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31-03-2014, 08:45 AM | #13 | |||
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i acknowledge that their reliability is compromised when pushing the cars power output levels and drive them with consideration to have them last. case in point my old centri charged xr8. Never had a mechanical issue with it, because i didnt drive beyond its boundaries.. many others with similar outputs are bending rods and burning pistons.. who is it that doesnt understand their cars limits? |
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31-03-2014, 11:41 AM | #14 | |||
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30-03-2014, 10:32 PM | #15 | ||
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31-03-2014, 11:41 AM | #16 | ||
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You spent a butt load of money on a car you never used other than for a topic to chat about online.
That to me is the biggest waste of money. I would rather build it, enjoy it, see what it can do, and perhaps break it, than sit around talking about what it "could" do on the internet |
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31-03-2014, 01:12 PM | #17 | ||
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Can we get this thread moved to the pub, bar or just deleted?
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31-03-2014, 02:30 PM | #18 | ||
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Cant believe i read that whole thread,i could have been picking my nose or cleaning out my dogs ears...
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31-03-2014, 02:47 PM | #19 | ||
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400+ 1/4 passes, 100+ dyno runs, 40000km with 1200hp/30psi using factory valvetrain (apart from springs n cams), factory oil pump, balancer and numerous other stock components. tell me a modded car can't take a beating lol.
a stock car will take a beating, but like said up the power with that stock car and see what it takes. a bit of thinking, good tuning and you can work out the weak points in the motor and work on it! Last edited by prasac; 31-03-2014 at 02:55 PM. |
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31-03-2014, 03:02 PM | #20 | ||
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Id say they are reliable if driven within their intended limit / purpose. Your car may run 400 passes but more than a few cars will be towed home from the AFF drag nats after 1-2 passes.
How many forum cars modded for 50%+ more power than stock could complete the bathurst 1000 enduro?. Flat chat the whole way? |
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31-03-2014, 03:14 PM | #21 | ||
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31-03-2014, 03:18 PM | #22 | ||
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good point... but most stock cars would either have their brakes fade / wear down, tyres destroyed and maybe see the limit of their cooling systems.
But most of the modded cars would likely see major breakages / engine failure. the stock cars may get more laps in. |
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31-03-2014, 03:22 PM | #23 | ||
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Hey Hulk, you have obviously sold your centri BA XR8, did I hear correct that the person who bought it was going to take it to the track and see it's potential ?, what ever happened ?.
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31-03-2014, 03:54 PM | #24 | ||
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I'm defrosting my 180 litre freezer at the moment.
I haven't defrosted it for two years. It has 4 shelves, of which 3 have refrigerated coils. The seals are in great condition for the age of the freezer, about 15 years old. I've had to use mould cleaner on the otherwise good seals to bring it up to my personal liking. I started using a hair dryer (not mine) to melt the frost off the shelves, but gave up as I wanted to follow this thread. I used a mop to pick up the water off the tiled floor so as to not have the moisture encroach through to my adjacent hallway carpet. ffs, this post makes as much sense to drag racing as does this thread. Cheers!
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31-03-2014, 09:40 PM | #25 | |||
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31-03-2014, 07:08 PM | #26 | ||
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So you increased the power but wouldn't drive it flat out cause it might break and wouldn't go to the drags cause it might break.
Then bag out people who do break their cars, yes they should strengthened the driveline when they added power and would of learnt the hard way it costs more to do it right the second time but atleast they had a go. Last edited by dragons90; 31-03-2014 at 07:28 PM. |
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31-03-2014, 11:22 PM | #27 | |||
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I drove the car hard, but a bit of mechanical sympathy goes a long way. Obviously didnt flat change at max rpm every time i drive it, or buzz the motor on the rev limiter. No big burnouts or big launches either. The car was a little under tyred on purpose, better to turn tyres than burn clutches or brake cv's. |
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31-03-2014, 10:47 PM | #28 | ||
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Flat shift an original press release Typhoon and see what happens.
Sticky track + quick gear change = shock load Many a T5 behind a stock engine has been busted due to a numpty with a dumpy clutch foot. Do you understand shock loading? |
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31-03-2014, 11:30 PM | #29 | ||
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You answered your own question in you last post!!!!!
Of course things break on a drag stip or racing with moddyfied go fast bits. Mostly, its a case of how far to push things before things go bang. Finding the weak points and making improvements along the way. I would brag at 100 passes to if the times were good. Who wouldnt ....... and many of these cars are not running 50% increases but like my Landau, it was more like 300% increase on stock just so I could run a 10. The car was never designed to run 10 seconds and at over 200 kmph it was exciting to say the least!!!! With many stock parts including tail shaft, axles and brakes .... with the original Clevo block. Retired it as I didn't want to push it further. I don't know how many passes but would be 50 plus ish and ended up running consistent and well. No other Landau in the world has done 10 seconds and survived that I know of ...... Something I can boast about LOL!!!! Of course things break. Many reasons are given above. No question is silly ..... but was answered pretty quickly. While this is a fascinating thread and a great read for anyone intending to go to the AAF DRAG NATS in June ....... for the sake of sanity I need to end it as everything has been fairly much said.
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