Car carrying 10 children in horror crash

[DJR-351]

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/TopS...es_647114.html

Madness.....

Saturday, August 06, 2011 » 12:42pm

The unlicensed driver of a four-wheel drive that rolled over while carrying 10 children in Victoria's west has returned a positive breath test.

Paramedics say the two adults and 10 children who were crammed into the vehicle when it rolled over on Friday afternoon are lucky to be alive.

Ten children, ranging in age from infancy to seven years old, were taken to hospital following the crash in Rockbank.

One of the children suffered a badly broken leg while another suffered suspected internal injuries, said paramedic Peter Norbury.

The driver of the vehicle, a 34-year-old Epping woman, produced a positive preliminary breath test at the scene, police said.

She was taken to the Royal Melbourne Hospital for observation.

Police are awaiting the results of a blood alcohol analysis before interviewing the woman in relation to criminal and traffic offences.

Her 32-year-old male passenger was arrested at the scene of the crash for public drunkenness.

The vehicle is believed to have left the road and rolled several times before it was found resting on its side by emergency services.

Mr Norbury said the occupants of the car had suffered a range of injuries including fractures, grazing and chest and abdominal injuries.

He said the children were shaken by the accident.

'Initially the children were understandably very upset after what had been a major event; there was a lot of force in the accident,' he said.

'They received considerable shock and, for some of them, considerable injuries.

'They did, however, manage to settle quickly and were remarkably stoic.

'I think that we're fortunate that the injuries weren't more severe and that there were no fatalities in there.'

Five of the children were taken to the Royal Children's Hospital and the remaining five to Sunshine Hospital for observation.

Police have seized the Pajero for examination.

[Road Games]

Speechless....

[nstg8a]

muppets

[SEZ213]

Originally Posted by XR6menace

Speechless....

Seconded...who does that?

I'm curious if all those children belong to the two adults though, I think there will be hell to pay from some parents if they're not...

[Rodp]

Anything short of a jail sentence would be a travesty, IMO.

Unlicensed, drunk and I'd suggest unlikely to have the ability to have 10 children sufficiently restrained in the 4WD?

[robbo/region15]

Obviously the "Adults" did not give a damn about anyone,get out the Cat o nine tails..............

[NudgE^SIKBRO]

and I bet the offender will get let off with a fine!!!

[DJM83]

Mungbeans, makes you wonder what happens inside these peoples heads.

[black54]

They should both be neutered after a period at her majesty's pleasure!

[Brent]

7 of the 10 kids in the car apparently 'belonged' to the mum (the driver). Oh, and don't worry about the cans of booze in the car...you, me and everyone reading this forum has no doubt paid for those. I'm sure the mum is just fine. Say no more.

[scorpio39]

****** for brains parents shouldn't be allowed to breed !!!

[geckoGT]

Disgusting story but unfortunately not surprising.

Anyone note that there were 12 occupants and a Pajero only has a max capacity of 7 with the third row option. That means 5 children were unrestrained, guarantee the adults were in the front with seat belts on (or at least the option of wearing one).

Seriously, just throw the book at them, max penalty thanks.

[Brent]

According to the 6pm news, only one of the kids were restrained. How at least several kids weren't thrown from the car or crushed by it when it rolled is beyond me.

[ZDHLANE]

Just shocking!

Lost for words abit.

I wonder if child protection services will look into this!

[bungarra]

Where was the Police Safety Camera? Surely this would have prevented the accident!

[ILLaViTaR]

Wouldn't expect anything less from a pack of bogans.

So was the car licensed to carry 10 or not??? Being a Pajero I doubt it but it's deceiving of the article not to clarify.

[fordman302]

lets face it, the law that is will still come downn harder on an enthusiest that sticks the tail out a little on a wet road, this comes into the the same catergory as armed hold ups, breaking an entering etc... their theory on stpping hoons? confiscate their car, my theory on these people.. confiscate their kids, no excuses no bullsh!t, like driving without a licence, three months jail time minimum, i would be mu7ch happier my money paying to feed these people in prison than feeding those who cant be stuffed getting a job

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

Wouldn't expect anything less from a pack of bogans.

So was the car licensed to carry 10 or not??? Being a Pajero I doubt it but it's deceiving of the article not to clarify.

Max seating of any Pajero is 7, they had 12 in it. So the clear answer is it is not licensed for 10.

[prydey]

there used to be a rule that as long as all the seatbelts were used, you could load additional people in, but i'm not one for reading all the fine print and i'd imagine that law has long been made redundant.

if 7 of the kids belong to the woman, then i'm assuming the other 3 belong to the bloke? either that or the parents of the kids had no idea what was going on. no parent in their right mind would allow another person, who had obviously been drinking, to transport their children.

this is more than just having an accident in a motor vehicle. this is about the fact that they could have potentially killed 10 kids through their own stupidity/selfishness/thoughtlessness etc etc. they should be punished accordingly. attempted manslaughter may sound harsh... but is it?

[fordman302]

Not harsh at all mate, what would the headlines say if half of them have died???? They dont deserve benefit of the doubt, lock them up, before they get labelled as a hoon, lets face it, manslaughter would be a lighter charge than hooning these days.... maybe im just a sceptic

[Ford_The_Win]

Basically just a bunch of braindead morons that ought to have been sterilised. It's a snobbish presumption but I'll bet there are at least three or four different fathers between those woman's seven kids. Natural selection came close for a second there.

[fordman302]

Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

Basically just a bunch of braindead morons that ought to have been sterilised. It's a snobbish presumption but I'll bet there are at least three or four different fathers between those woman's seven kids. Natural selection came close for a second there.

its a shame that safety regulations protect these people, lets face it the way the world works if we didnt wrap all these f?#*k whits in cotton wool they would have found a way the fall off the perch themself and centrelink would only support half the amount of people they do now

[geckoGT]

Originally Posted by prydey

there used to be a rule that as long as all the seatbelts were used, you could load additional people in, but i'm not one for reading all the fine print and i'd imagine that law has long been made redundant.

From Vic roads.

The rules outlined below are an overview, please refer to the rule references for more details.
All drivers and passengers must wear a seat belt or appropriate restraint (including children and pregnant women). Drivers must ensure all passengers are properly restrained. Seat belts must be securely fastened and properly adjusted, and there must be only one person for each seating position and one seat belt for each person.
The penalties for unrestrained or improperly restrained passengers includes:
fines and demerit points for the driver, and
fines for passengers aged 16 years and over.

No unrestrained passengers are allowed.

this is more than just having an accident in a motor vehicle. this is about the fact that they could have potentially killed 10 kids through their own stupidity/selfishness/thoughtlessness etc etc. they should be punished accordingly. attempted manslaughter may sound harsh... but is it?

Admittedly I have a very hard line attitude on this topic but in my opinion there is no difference, although I do not believe there is an offence of "attempted manslaughter", you can not attempt to accidentally kill someone. I would go with some serious charge such as attempted murder, perhaps assault causing grievous bodily harm etc.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by geckoGT

although I do not believe there is an offence of "attempted manslaughter", you can not attempt to accidentally kill someone.

yeah, i didn't think that through very well but i believe you knew where i was going with it. getting behind the wheel of a motor vehicle whilst intoxicated is bad enough, but doing it with 10 kids under your responsibility... attempted murder is almost fitting.

[Ford_The_Win]

Originally Posted by fordman302

its a shame that safety regulations protect these people, lets face it the way the world works if we didnt wrap all these f?#*k whits in cotton wool they would have found a way the fall off the perch themself and centrelink would only support half the amount of people they do now

Indeed. These are the sort of people who probably wouldn't have survived into adulthood in mediaeval times.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by ZDHLANE

I wonder if child protection services will look into this!

Yeah, they'll probably move all the kids from an alcohol abuser to a paedophile instead.

[Falc'man]

Originally Posted by bungarra

Where was the Police Safety Camera? Surely this would have prevented the accident!

lol

Has anyone else noticed lesser RBTs these days or is it just me? It must have been at least a couple of years from memory since I was last stopped for one.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Falc'man

lol

Has anyone else noticed lesser RBTs these days or is it just me? It must have been at least a couple of years from memory since I was last stopped for one.

I've only had three since I got my license last year, none where random either.

Highway patrol closed down my towns entire main road and where breath testing everyone who went through, I could have easily avoided it but I didn't bother because I had nothing to hide, only to be met by an arrogant cop.

The other two times where just outside of work in the Tullamarine industrial area, they have truck stops or something there on the side of the road, and they where pulling everyone into them.

Never has a copped pulled me up for an RBT.

[|Nate]

I can't put to words how disgusted I am to hear this, far out... Some people need some good bloody corporal punishment IMO.

I got pulled over once for a license check (I think) and a EBT, but I think it was just cause of the red P on the back of my car, as I could tell he saw me then thought "Oh bloody P plater in a Falcon, better check him out"
Was a nice cop though and everything was fine.

Only ever been through 2 RBT Vans before though, rarely ever see them.

[2011G6E]

As the ancient saying goes: "you gotta have a licence to own a dog...but any moron is allowed to have kids..."

I'm not commenting on this particular case, but it reminds me of a peculiarity of road accidents stats that was brought up about the Northern Territory a few years back...they said that stats showed odd things like a single vehicle accident with up to fifteen injuried people. It was explained easily when police said you would turn up to an accident on a remote road and find a crashed Landcruiser Ute with four aboriginal adults jammed in the front and another eight adults and kids (or more) riding in the tray.

And yes...there must be a seat belt and proper seat for EVERY occupant...