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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jul 2011
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gday fellow ford buffs have a 1980 model XD fairmont ghia and have been paying full registration but would only drive the car 12 times a year
can anyone suggest a car club that i can join to enable the cheaper registration???? |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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What state are you in is the first question that needs to be answered.
If your in Vic, the laws have recently changed regarding club rego. |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Barossa Valley, South Australia
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In SA, I believe that you can only drive the car on official club events should you have that type of rego.
I'm waiting to get that type of rego on our XE, but do plan on joining a local club and actually participating in it ![]()
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Giddy up.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Kramerica Industries.
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I think you will strugle finding a club that will have Club rego that suit's a XD, it's not a vehicle that might be consider eligible for club reg ?.
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Must be 30yrs old in QLD to be on club rego....
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![]() The primary issue is that a club registered car being used for other purposes is deemed unregistered in the case of an accident etc. Can be a huge minefield.... |
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I could be wrong but it would be interesting. |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Again, depends what state your in. In Vic, you can use the car whenever you want for whatever purpose you want. So long as your logbook is filled out, there are no issues and your insurance is valid. So, as i asked earlier, what state is the car to be registered in? |
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney
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Club rego (in NSW) is very restrictive as already mentioned.
Only driven for club events, and to do repairs / maintenance / rego (must also be most direct route I think). I think there may have also been a 6km radius limit from your garage for all other driving but not sure if that was or still is currently the case. |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Also, its 25 years old older in Vic, dropped down from 30 years.
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jul 2011
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Hey thanks Guys the car is registered in VIC.
i thought joining a car club with an xd might be tough as you know if the car is unregistered it does not move and thats the end of it keeping the car registered means it gets driven and kept in working order. i really appreciate the feedback |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Check the vicroads website. There is an approved club .. "Ford Owners drivers and restorers club" which you might want to contact.
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I believe you've been fed a load of crock. I have 4 cars on historic in S.A and the rules are as follows. You can drive the car when ever and where ever you want. You don't have to ask anyones permission, nor do you have to take them specifically on club events. You can drive the car a maximum of 90 days per year. You must fill in a log book everytime you drive the car and have that, along with the rego papers in the car. Otherwise, if Mr Policeman pulls you up, with the log book not filled in, you'll be done for driving an unregistered vehicle. If you're caught driving an unregistered vehicle under these circumstances, you'll loose the historic rego, have to pay full rego costs for the time the car has been on this rego and never obtain historic rego ever again. I believe NSW is the state that requires you to get permission to drive the car, through the club. I think that clears it up.
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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Yep what SVO supporter said for SA but car must be in original condition, can only have options that were available for that model. We appear to have a very good deal in SA plus shannons insurance is cheap for club registered cars.
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So my take on that is that you get reduced fees if your a member of a club??? Quote:
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I didn't go into the ins and out of it all, but seeing as you doubt it, here goes. Firstly, a car on historic in S.A needs to be fitted with factory items. eg, if the car came optioned with a V8 and the car was a 6, the V8 can be fitted. If it came with disc brakes as an option, they can be fitted. get the drift there???? Yes, you must be a registered member of a car club. Annual car club fees vary depending on the club. The clubs also have different stipulations on how to remain a financial member. The car must be inspected by a vehicle inspector, that is part of the car club you wish to be a member of. This inspection isn't a full road worthy inspection, just an inspection making sure it adhears to the factory options available to that particular model. Once it is approved, you have 90 days (I think) to hand the approval document over to the Dept of Transport, along with a current membership document. Then the Dept will then update the rego details on their system, stipulating the car is on the Historic rego scheme. You also hand over about $140, for rego costs. If you purchase a car unregistered and it is approved for historic registration, you do not pay transfer fees. (Go find that on the lovely department of transport internet site ). Once the vehicle is on the historic rego scheme, everytime you wish to re-register the vehicle, yopu must have the rego forms stamped by your car club, stipulating you are a financial member, otherwise you pay full tote odds for rego. Any more queries you have? Please ask and you'll receive.
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A wheel alignment fixes everything, when it comes to front end issues. This includes any little noises. Please read the manual carefully, as the these manufacturers spent millions of dollars making sure it is perfect.....Now why are there so many problems with my car, when I follow the instructions to the letter?....Answer, majority rules round here Lock me up and throw away the key because I'm a hoon....I got caught doing 59 in a 60 zone |
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Thanks svo supporter. That makes it all clear now.
I thought in your first post you were questioning the club membership aspect of it as you never mentioned it in that post, but all good now ![]()
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Join Date: Jan 2011
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Perhaps someone can elaborate on why it is a requirement to belong to a car club to get this type of rego.
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Fixing Ford's **** ups
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Ask the powers to be. ie the transport dept. They makes the rules, we just have to follow them. I don't question it, considering the savings. My club, I pay $35 per annum (family) and rego costs me $140 per year, per car. Considering I have 4 on this scheme, I can drive each one 90 days per year, do the math. I'm not complaining, nor is my hip pocket. IMA, not sure of full rego costs for a 6 cyl per annum, but I'm sure 4 lots of historic rego + my annual membership fees is less than 1 6Cyl on full rego.
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A wheel alignment fixes everything, when it comes to front end issues. This includes any little noises. Please read the manual carefully, as the these manufacturers spent millions of dollars making sure it is perfect.....Now why are there so many problems with my car, when I follow the instructions to the letter?....Answer, majority rules round here Lock me up and throw away the key because I'm a hoon....I got caught doing 59 in a 60 zone |
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At $140 per car and 90 days of driving, it almost encourages you to buy multiple historic cars and just drive them, moving on to the next one once you've hit 90 days. ![]()
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Agreed. I think the 'club' connection is unnecessary. Anyone who wants a 'limited use' registration on any vehicle should be entitled to cheaper rego. Granted, I think keeping it limited to 'classic' vehicles is a good idea - but having to be a member of a club is IMO unnecessary and more of an annoyance.
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Fixing Ford's **** ups
Join Date: Feb 2009
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It's probably to do with people wanting to "modify" their cars outside the regulations. Most clubs insist you produce the car yearly at the annual registration day, so they can check the car still complies with the regulations.
So in a nutshell, being a member of a club allows the clubs to be the coppers with the inspections of your classic vehicles. You'll also find, that most car clubs are brand specific. Which means, they are fairly upto date with all the accessories available for that particular brand and the year your particular vehicle was produced. So it's another way to police what is correct for the car and year, without the headaches associated with other non-brand associated people
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A wheel alignment fixes everything, when it comes to front end issues. This includes any little noises. Please read the manual carefully, as the these manufacturers spent millions of dollars making sure it is perfect.....Now why are there so many problems with my car, when I follow the instructions to the letter?....Answer, majority rules round here Lock me up and throw away the key because I'm a hoon....I got caught doing 59 in a 60 zone Last edited by svo supporter; 04-08-2011 at 10:25 PM. |
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The idea is for us people with out of date and un-airbagged cars to actually enjoy the car with out hassles. Most people who own a fully restored "classic" car dont use it as a daily driver. In QLD you can only drive it in a 5 or 10km radius (not sure which) from its place of registration without any problems. Does there need to be a connection? Its like making money from a hobby... the tax man isnt interested until it becomes worth bothering you about how much you make.
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Here in tassie you don't need a club .
You can special interest rego a car over 30 yrs oldbut the limits are : Must be inspected before rego. Can only use 52 times a year ( unlimited km) Must use a log book.( and start anew each year) Rego cannot be transferred to new owner. Rego costs are about half normal rates( also insurance) |
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