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Old 25-06-2021, 03:36 AM   #1
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If you lived in wonder of the future:
In the 1960s you'd imagine 1980s having moon bases to live on.
In the 80s you'd be less optimistic and maybe think we would soon have flying cars or something
By the 90s you'd be dropping expectations even lower and thinking smart phones would be cool in 2000 (sorry, have to wait another decade even for them to be good)
In the 2020s you're just hoping the world doesn't end and we're not soon hunter-gatherers...

When the world was in actually in a cold war we were more optimistic. But cool dreams never realised, everything is turning us into pessimists (or working out how to get rich and FYGM) due to being let down again and again.
Governments have stood back from the brink of war and stood back from everything, letting the corporations run the show. But now corps are running everything into the ground. You might think this is ridiculous but it was that that brought down the soviet union, that which empowers China. It's all about the money now it's impossible to argue.

Corps just want to make money and for the past 20 years trying to find new ways of getting money out of you, and otherwise letting everything rot.
E: I know it's always been like that, but before it was small scale or ignorance, or in some other place. Now it's in your face and it's made China and Russia powerful too.
And we, the rank and file allowed it, we the people accepted it in that "opine like manner"
And what your timeline shows is the repetitious greedy nature of humanity.
Been going on for millennia, and none of us has learned sweet FA!


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Old 25-06-2021, 03:45 AM   #2
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I think you're missing the point. It used be optimism for the common person, but clearly it's all downhill from now on, and has been for 30 years if you ignore trinkets , distractions, apps and cheap junk.
There's been highs and lows throughout history of course but there's always been a promise of better times IMO. Now it's a choice between FYGM, lower taxes, junk from China, housing prices (never going to get better with low interest rates), lower wages (doesn't look like it's going to get better but even if it does not much chance of saving with low interest rates and high bank charges), oceans are undeniably more ****ed than ever. Fires, drought, pandemics and to top it all off there's climate change deniers that like to whinge about everything before they shuffle off...
Life is hard, there's always been challenges but this is the first time gramps held their finger up and said ****off to their grandkids.

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Old 25-06-2021, 04:26 AM   #3
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I think you're missing the point. It used be optimism for the common person, but clearly it's all downhill from now on, and has been for 30 years if you ignore trinkets , distractions, apps and cheap junk.
There's been highs and lows throughout history of course but there's always been a promise of better times IMO. Now it's a choice between FYGM, lower taxes, junk from China, housing prices (never going to get better with low interest rates), lower wages (doesn't look like it's going to get better but even if it does not much chance of saving with low interest rates and high bank charges), oceans are undeniably more ****ed than ever. Fires, drought, pandemics and to top it all off there's climate change deniers that like to whinge about everything before they shuffle off...
Life is hard, there's always been challenges but this is the first time gramps held their finger up and said ****off to their grandkids.
Optimism is a positive state of mind, I still have that same mind now, the world ideal, had it since I was a kid, its still in me, the rest going on around me is peripheral, a coincidence in my life, the only thing that's changed is our perception of what we think, see and feel!


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Old 29-06-2021, 11:58 PM   #4
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Many People Misunderstand what optimism is.

Somebody who looks at the world, but continues to gush "positivity" isn't an optimist.

An optimist is a realist who believes that things could get better, and hopes that they do.
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