Milltek exhaust available for XR4 (Fiesta ST) - Video!

[Teki04]

Hey guys,

I'm looking at getting a Milltek exhaust imported for my Clio (To replace to the complicated and HEAVY dual exhaust set up my car) and whilst researching I came accross this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHR1KxfjpDE

Fiesta ST with Milltek exhaust. Prepare yourself... make sure you have a towel and tissues close by ;) Haha

For more info hit www.millteksport.com

Cheers,

Steve

[Danny]

Sounds great. Looks like I might have to buy one in the near future! ;) ;) ;)

[Teki04]

Originally Posted by Danny

Sounds great. Looks like I might have to buy one in the near future! ;) ;) ;)

You refering to the Fiesta XR4?

Or the Clio, or the Clio and Milltek? : _2:

:Up_to_som

[Danny]

I'll be shutting up for now...

[Fair302]

It sound OK, I guess but WHAT A SPANKER!!! Driving like that in those area's

[Danny]

Thats what I thought...

[Haemophiliac]

Originally Posted by Teki04

Hey guys,

I'm looking at getting a Milltek exhaust imported for my Clio (To replace to the complicated and HEAVY dual exhaust set up my car) and whilst researching I came accross this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHR1KxfjpDE

Fiesta ST with Milltek exhaust. Prepare yourself... make sure you have a towel and tissues close by ;) Haha

For more info hit www.millteksport.com

Cheers,

Steve

yeah mate, i have the miltek headers fitted to my exhaust. how much are you paying? anyone else done it for the clio in australia?

Was a huge stuff around getting my fitted, because no one knows how in australia. Different length of the headers meant rewire of O2 sensors, and a bit of fun making them fit. then making sure the system retained enough heat for the sensors to work properly because it was loosing too much heat through the length of the headers.

If your the first to do it, have some cash handy

[Teki04]

Originally Posted by Haemophiliac

yeah mate, i have the miltek headers fitted to my exhaust. how much are you paying? anyone else done it for the clio in australia?

Was a huge stuff around getting my fitted, because no one knows how in australia. Different length of the headers meant rewire of O2 sensors, and a bit of fun making them fit. then making sure the system retained enough heat for the sensors to work properly because it was loosing too much heat through the length of the headers.

If your the first to do it, have some cash handy

Nice! Well, I'm paying around $1K for a cat-back system (still has dual mufflers). It is a group buy... so no one in Australia has it yet! The system is however designed and tested for the 182, so it should be a straight swap.

Your car would sound pretty sweet dude! Any youtube views of it? ;)

[Haemophiliac]

nah, but it does sound good, i might see what i can do. i wouldnt even bother with the group buys man, see if you can find a shop or somethign in the uk that will send them here.

I paid $723au which included postage for the headers, the miltek supplier in australia wanted $1100au, wtf? still was like 1000 for a group buy or something so....

do some research man you'll save heaps!

[Teki04]

Originally Posted by Haemophiliac

nah, but it does sound good, i might see what i can do. i wouldnt even bother with the group buys man, see if you can find a shop or somethign in the uk that will send them here.

I paid $723au which included postage for the headers, the miltek supplier in australia wanted $1100au, wtf? still was like 1000 for a group buy or something so....

do some research man you'll save heaps!

Nice! Well yea, the group buy is to purchase it in the UK, and get them all sent to Sydney!

Local milltek suppliers (most are VW/Audi specialists) want $1,700 each : So, we are happy with our UK price.

In regards to your exhaust, any photos?

[Haemophiliac]

nah, its all covered in insulation down to the cat to try and hold the heat on. the o2 sensors werent switching, made the car run like ****, cose it was loosing too much heat cose the miltek was twice as long as the stock manifold

[photn]

Originally Posted by Haemophiliac

nah, its all covered in insulation down to the cat to try and hold the heat on. the o2 sensors werent switching, made the car run like ****, cose it was loosing too much heat cose the miltek was twice as long as the stock manifold

http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/showdetails.php?id=71

that should be a solution to the future peeps who want to do it their car!

[murcod]

Originally Posted by Haemophiliac

nah, its all covered in insulation down to the cat to try and hold the heat on. the o2 sensors werent switching, made the car run like ****, cose it was loosing too much heat cose the miltek was twice as long as the stock manifold

Did you use exhaust wrap or get them ceramic coated? Strange if they're designed for your car to have those issues!

[Haemophiliac]

just the wrap. yeah i spoke to puma speed about the problem, they didnt mention using the mil light eliminator... ohwell its sorted now.

[photn]

Originally Posted by Haemophiliac

just the wrap. yeah i spoke to puma speed about the problem, they didnt mention using the mil light eliminator... ohwell its sorted now.

they didnt have it when you got you extractors unfortunately. its a relatively new item.....but yer. now that its there it should be of some help....

[Haemophiliac]

nah it was there, definately because i looked at it. But i think i had a different problem, ford had a look at the computer etc and told me that the o2 (lambada) sensors werent getting hot enough to even switch on. so yeah, unless somone here is an expert on this sort of stuff and thinks it will fix my problem i wont bother, because its running ok now.

[Piotr]

Are you running with both sensors connected or just the one?

[Haemophiliac]

both,

[Lplus]

Originally Posted by Haemophiliac

nah it was there, definately because i looked at it. But i think i had a different problem, ford had a look at the computer etc and told me that the o2 (lambada) sensors werent getting hot enough to even switch on. so yeah, unless somone here is an expert on this sort of stuff and thinks it will fix my problem i wont bother, because its running ok now.

Interesting, I thought the Lambda sensors had heaters in them.

[Haemophiliac]

i dont know but the mil light just came back on today, so its still not fcucking fixed. :

anyone know where to take it in brisbane for someone who will know what they are talking about?

[melbzetec]

That's the same problem I am having with the Ford Racing headers on my Focus. Insufficient heat. Haven't got a fix yet

[Piotr]

My understanding is because you have changed the air flow through the cat and taken 2 away the computer will display the MIL light because the information its getting from the sensors have changes too much from stock.

[Haemophiliac]

so then after market management? I was considering this a long time ago but decided it wasnt worth the money, but now if that would fix the problem i spose i would spend the money rather than waste it on 5 more trips to ford while they pretend to know whats happening...

[Danny]

Steve, Is it still to late for me to get one for mine?

[Piotr]

Originally Posted by Haemophiliac

so then after market management? I was considering this a long time ago but decided it wasnt worth the money, but now if that would fix the problem i spose i would spend the money rather than waste it on 5 more trips to ford while they pretend to know whats happening...

You can get oxygen sensor simulators. Basically they replace the reading of the 2nd oxygen sensor with one a stock sensor would give.

http://www.pumaspeed.co.uk/showdetails.php?id=71 Here is one from pumaspeed

http://www.o2sensorsimulator.com/ Here is a 3rd party company

These would end up alot cheaper than aftermarket managment.

[Haemophiliac]

would the car not run properly then? seeing that it is infact running as stock when it is not? other thing i was just reading up on ukfiestanetwork that some people have used those and still have the mil light coming on.

[melbzetec]

There are a number of ways to overcome the CEL if it is a problem with the 2nd sensor (Mil eliminators, tunes etc)

But I am not yet convinced that the problem isn't with the 1st sensor. When the 1st sensor is relocated further away from the engine, as it is in these header applications, the exhaust gases wouldn't be as hot, and (perhaps) this is why the DTC is showing a problem of the 02 sensors not getting hot enough to "switch on". I know it is doing the ECU's head in, as the tune of my car is wandering all over the place

Just a theory.

Need an auto elec who knows what he is talking about. Maybe somebody at Bosch knows...they make virtually all the 02 sensors

[Piotr]

The 1st O2 sensor is used for Air/fuel metering and the 2nd O2 sensor is used for emissions. So yes the MIL will only help if that is your actual problem. If you don't have any issues with air/fuel ratios a MIL will probably work for you.

Melb you car was running very rich so that would more indicate a problem with the 1st sensor.

Of course we don't know for certain what is happening inside the ECU and can only speculate.

[Haemophiliac]

ok, so if it is indeed the length of the manifold which is causing there to be not enough heat reaching the cat and makeing the sensors not work properly the problem is probably in both sensors... will have to ring ford and get them too look up my service history and tell me.

So... would there be any problems with say just putting the first sensor further up towards the engine away from the cat, so that it is getting enough heat and then using the mil eliminator on the second sensor which is after the cat?

[melbzetec]

Haemo, it's all speculation on my part.

But I can't find anyone in the US with the same problem.

Maybe a change in O2 sensor? Wideband? Out of my depth here, but surely the right auto elec could work it out