Welcome to the Australian Ford Forums forum.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and inserts advertising. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features without post based advertising banners. Registration is simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.

Please Note: All new registrations go through a manual approval queue to keep spammers out. This is checked twice each day so there will be a delay before your registration is activated.

Go Back   Australian Ford Forums > General Topics > The Pub

The Pub For General Automotive Related Talk

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-01-2012, 07:41 AM   #1
graham_h
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
graham_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,146
Default Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Seriously considering this as an option.
The results and the product seem to be outstanding
Costs about $2,300 for the film.
Full thread Here
Few pics below..... opinions ?
Personally I reckon everyone driving a FG should get it done never mind us sad sacks with BA's...







graham_h is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 08:48 AM   #2
my67xr
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
my67xr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brighton, Adelaide
Posts: 3,972
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: This contribution: 04 SX TX AWD, drama's replacing upper outer joints w/Nolathane replacements 
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

personally i like the idea of the film.
i think it wont be long until auto paint is available like this too.
bake it on with uv light etc.

the only problem with the protection film is the application method.
the fitters use a sharp knife to cut it,
it would leave a scratch on every edge of panels, badges lights, etc etc
__________________
Money Talks, but all i ever hear is it saying Goodbye!!

click below to view my build threads
67 XR Fairmont
04 SX TX Territory AWD

my67xr is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 08:52 AM   #3
graham_h
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
graham_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,146
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

No scratches anywhere if applied correctly....I don't think the benz owner would accept that. Have a look at their website to see the cars they've done
graham_h is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 09:20 AM   #4
charles_wif_xf
Purveyor of filth
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,958
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

If priced right, count me in.
charles_wif_xf is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 09:31 AM   #5
graham_h
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
graham_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,146
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Its never going to be a budget option. cost of the film is in the first post plus shipping from the states. Biggest issue would be a trustworthy shop to apply it. Premier do specific training at their shops. Otherwise vinyl/bodyshop guys wouwork..... but it'd have to be perfect.
graham_h is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 09:34 AM   #6
charles_wif_xf
Purveyor of filth
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,958
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

It would be worth it, to not have to deal with stone chips in the paintwork. I swear the paint thickness is barely one or two atoms at most!

Last edited by charles_wif_xf; 03-01-2012 at 09:49 AM.
charles_wif_xf is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 11:05 AM   #7
graham_h
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
graham_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,146
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Quote:
Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf
It would be worth it, to not have to deal with stone chips in the paintwork. I swear the paint thickness is barely one or two atoms at most!
True. this film is 8mm thick
Its not bullet proof but after a few years individual panels can be redone
graham_h is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 11:10 AM   #8
graham_h
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
graham_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,146
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Look at the GT2 they did



graham_h is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 11:11 AM   #9
Danny
GT4.
 
Danny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,218
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

It's a good idea, but I'm more privy to the use of clear gloss ventureshield. You don't even know it is there because its a gloss film.

Matt coloured cars has been done and dusted nowadays. the CLK black came out years ago, I've got ventureshield all over the Renault and every time I a mark on it, I know that that is a mark that would have otherwise been on the body/paint.
Danny is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 11:25 AM   #10
graham_h
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
graham_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,146
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

They do clear films too.....I just like the satin finish
graham_h is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 11:28 AM   #11
charles_wif_xf
Purveyor of filth
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,958
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Who did your car Danny?

And the FG in Ego with matte finish would be tits!
charles_wif_xf is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 01:19 PM   #12
CSV_LS1
I used to have a nice car
 
CSV_LS1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,993
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Asked them for a price not long ago as well but baulked at the price which is to be expected for the quality. Problem is if you did get the roll and who ever does the fitting stuffs up i doubt they will pay for extra material.
The project would cost you over $5 grand i would say.
CSV_LS1 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 01:37 PM   #13
IEAT8S
Turbo Power
 
IEAT8S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 618
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

I remember seeing this at a car show once. They had a r35 GTR in Matt Black. Looked great.
IEAT8S is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 02:01 PM   #14
roberts
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 684
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

http://www.camomyride.com/products/index.php?type=539
roberts is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 02:01 PM   #15
2011G6E
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
2011G6E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: On The Footplate.
Posts: 5,086
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Quote:
Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf
It would be worth it, to not have to deal with stone chips in the paintwork. I swear the paint thickness is barely one or two atoms at most!
Tell me about it...I questioned the Ford dealer about our G6E when we took it in for a service a while back...any little rub harder than an angels kiss and it scratches and marks the "Edge" paint....honestly, you can mark it with a fingernail! They checked it out and said it appeared OK and "thick enough", but he also said he personally owned an FG XR6 turbo in black, and he would never buy a dark colour from Ford again. Going by the lack of paint on other areas of the car where they leave bare metal, I think they're doing a bit of cost saving on paint.

If that coating was available in high gloss, it'd be magic! I don't like the idea of a matt finish for several reasons, but the lack of being able to keep it clean properly is a put-off. I don't know if the film is different to paint, but I remember a motoring review of a matt finish Merc that said "if bird crap gets on it, it MUST be cleaned of immediately, you can't put it through a carwash, you can't polish it, rain must be cleaned off straight away", and a few other qualifiers. Look cool? Maybe to some people...but practicality goes right out the window...
2011G6E is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 02:26 PM   #16
graham_h
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
graham_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,146
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2011G6E
If that coating was available in high gloss, it'd be magic! I don't like the idea of a matt finish for several reasons, but the lack of being able to keep it clean properly is a put-off. I don't know if the film is different to paint, but I remember a motoring review of a matt finish Merc that said "if bird crap gets on it, it MUST be cleaned of immediately, you can't put it through a carwash, you can't polish it, rain must be cleaned off straight away", and a few other qualifiers. Look cool? Maybe to some people...but practicality goes right out the window...
Gloss version is clear see though, very shiny looks awesome IMO (pic below)


Thread for that car Here

As for the Matt finish being hard to keep. It depends on the film....... these are the best and just require a shampoo and dry off. The bird crap rule applies regards of paint or wrap IMO. Who the heck would take their car through a car wash and not expect the finish to be wrecked ? Can't polish it.....doesn't need to be (but can be...there are specific products for it)

In the next few months I'll be doing my car so I can get first hand experience. I'm in LA in September and I'll do some traning with them if I can organise it within the time frame I'm there.
graham_h is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 02:38 PM   #17
2011G6E
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
2011G6E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: On The Footplate.
Posts: 5,086
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Now that looks great!
2011G6E is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 02:50 PM   #18
Neale
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
Neale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,481
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Looks great but whats the lifespan of this film. I know its not the same as vinyl but how long would it last before it starts popping out of deep recesses, shrinking & lifting.

I think that to keep it looking good it would have to be redone every 2-5 years.
Neale is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 02:52 PM   #19
graham_h
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
graham_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,146
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

5 years...depending on k's
graham_h is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 03:47 PM   #20
Danny
GT4.
 
Danny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,218
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Quote:
Originally Posted by charles_wif_xf
Who did your car Danny?

And the FG in Ego with matte finish would be tits!
Ozishield in Ringwood. Brilliant guy. I paid $770 for the whole front, door pillars, mirrors, under the door handles/boot button, side skirts and door mouldings, and behind the wheel arches.

Whole car option was there but takes a few days and is worth more like $3-5k depending on car size.
Danny is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 05:25 PM   #21
Bossxr8
Peter Car
 
Bossxr8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: geelong
Posts: 23,145
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Quote:
Originally Posted by graham_h
True. this film is 8mm thick
Its not bullet proof but after a few years individual panels can be redone
I think you mean 0.8mm thick? 8mm would be as thick as a slice of bread.

I think the matte finish comes up really well, but too expensive really.
Bossxr8 is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 05:32 PM   #22
charles_wif_xf
Purveyor of filth
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,958
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Thats 8 mil Imperial (ie 8/1000ths of an inch), not 8mm.
charles_wif_xf is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 05:32 PM   #23
graham_h
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
graham_h's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2,146
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bossxr8
I think you mean 0.8mm thick? 8mm would be as thick as a slice of bread.

I think the matte finish comes up really well, but too expensive really.
Good point. my mistake its 8 mil thick.....sheesh what a pillock

As for cost its all relative.
Spending 4k+ on rims is too expensive for most......doesn't stop people doing it
graham_h is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 03-01-2012, 07:23 PM   #24
2011G6E
FF.Com.Au Hardcore
 
2011G6E's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: On The Footplate.
Posts: 5,086
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Quote:
Originally Posted by graham_h
5 years...depending on k's
...or where in inland Queensland you live...
2011G6E is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2012, 11:45 AM   #25
markvd
Starter Motor
 
markvd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 22
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

If you get it done make sure it is a Cast Vinyl and not a Calendered Vinyl and it gets post heated on the recesses and curves, usually between 90c to 110c. The heating after install removes the memory of the vinyl and stops lifting.

Cutting on the car is a skill that is learned and there is no reason that paint should get cut. Can put vinyl on bare skin and cut it without drawing blood, it definitely allays the doubters fears.

Also, I do Demos of wrapping and training courses for a large Manufacturer, so can get most vinyls at a good price, message me and I can get a price and where you can buy it.
markvd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2012, 12:25 PM   #26
markvd
Starter Motor
 
markvd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 22
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Sorry, havnt posted enough to reply to a PM lol, so here is the answer.

Hi Garry,

we use a heat gun after the vinyl is applied to make the vinyl lose its desire to shrink. Basically it sets it in place. What type of vinyl you get matters a lot as to ease of install. Some have grooves in the glue to allow bubble free install. Heres a video to look at, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLsmPbPyE00
markvd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2012, 12:28 PM   #27
markvd
Starter Motor
 
markvd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 22
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Nano Film is made by Avery, and carries a Warranty that is actually honoured and you can get a warranty card.
markvd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2012, 01:15 PM   #28
aussiblue
FG XR6 Ute & Sedan
Donating Member3
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bibra Lake WA
Posts: 22,734
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Has been floating around the oze tech section for a long time and is always there to give advice when people have an issue. 
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

This one?
http://www.nano-fusion.net/#

Quote:
Avery Dennison Paint Protection Film
Limited “Life Time” Warranty For Personal Light Vehicles*

Avery Dennison paint protection Nano-Fusion™ 6 mil film (“Product”) has a limited warranty from date of purchase. The film is warranted to be free from defects in manufacturing and workmanship and against peeling, yellowing, bubbling, or cracking of the film from UV exposure for so long as the original purchaser owns and operates the Vehicle on which the Product is installed.

To be valid, this warranty requires that the installation is performed by an authorized Avery Dennison installer in accordance with Avery Dennison’s recommended installation procedures and the owner must follow recommended maintenance requirements (including those relating to washing and/or waxing or applying other surface treatments) and procedures and retain the original proof of purchase and completed certificate provided by the authorized installer. In the event that the Product is not installed by an authorized Avery Dennison installer, then the warranty shall be for a term of seven (7) years from the date of purchase.

This warranty does not apply to damage to the Product caused by erroneous application, accident, intentional misuse, exposure to corrosive or abrasive materials, ordinary wear, or dents caused by physical impact (e.g. stones, road debris, bumps, impact, etc.) or use of the Vehicle in commercial or for profit service. If Avery Dennison determines that the Product has been damaged due to failure to follow Avery Dennison’s application or recommended maintenance procedures, Avery Dennison WILL NOT reimburse the authorized Avery Dennison installer. Avery Dennison’s sole obligation under this warranty shall be the replacement of the defective film, and in no event shall Avery Dennison’s liability exceed the purchase price of the film.
__________________
regards Blue
aussiblue is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2012, 01:17 PM   #29
aussiblue
FG XR6 Ute & Sedan
Donating Member3
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bibra Lake WA
Posts: 22,734
Technical Contributor: For members who share their technical expertise. - Issue reason: Has been floating around the oze tech section for a long time and is always there to give advice when people have an issue. 
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

How does it perform in terms of static build up? Those of us who remember vinyl records might wonder if vinyl wrap moving through air might build static in the same way rubbing vinyl records did.
__________________
regards Blue
aussiblue is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Old 29-01-2012, 01:35 PM   #30
markvd
Starter Motor
 
markvd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 22
Default Re: Satin Guard vehicle wrap

Thats the film, and it always comes down to the installer as to whether you get a good job or not. An Avery Specialist Installer is the best to use if using that product. They get tested and appraised before accreditation.
markvd is offline   Reply With Quote Multi-Quote with this Post
Reply


Forum Jump


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 08:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Other than what is legally copyrighted by the respective owners, this site is copyright www.fordforums.com.au
Positive SSL