BMW to introduce diesel into their 'M' line

[Wretched]

Rumors of the diesel M have been circulating for several weeks, but TheDetroitBureau.com has confirmed details with a variety of BMW sources who say the maker wants to prove out the potential of the high-mileage technology – taking advantage of a variety of new technologies, including the unusual triple-turbocharging system meant to eliminate even the most minor turbo lag.

The new model is likely to get the unusual designation of either BMW 550dM or 550dXM, the latter referring to its all-wheel-drive system. With rare exception, most models produced by the Bavarian maker’s performance sub-brand flash the vaunted “M” first and foremost. But the alternative nomenclature would reflect the unusual powertrain under the hood of the 5-Series BMW.

http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2011...-applications/

[Franco Cozzo]

Hell yes, imagine a 300KW 1200nm TDV8 behind a 6sp manual?

Then I woke up and changed hands.

[Bossxr8]

I doubt M division will sink to the level of doing diesels. Look how long they denied turbos for.

[SteveJH]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I doubt M division will sink to the level of doing diesels. Look how long they denied turbos for.

As long as it has the performance to match the name, why not?

[Bossxr8]

Because diesels aren't your typical high revving sports engine. BMW were conflicted enough dropping high rev NA engines for lower revving, smaller capacity turbos. They believed it went against their traditional brand philosophy.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Because diesels aren't your typical high revving sports engine. BMW were conflicted enough dropping high rev NA engines for lower revving, smaller capacity turbos. They believed it went against their traditional brand philosophy.

Times change.
I think they will do it and do a good job of it.
The 330d isn't a bad bit of kit either.

[FG50T]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Times change.
I think they will do it and do a good job of it.
The 330d isn't a bad bit of kit either.

Certainly do. Their new car range will be ALL turbo in 3 years whether it's petrol or diesel, no more N/A's. 330d excites me more than a 335i.

[GASWAGON]

Top Gear tested a Bi Turbo (aka compound turbocharging - primary boosts larger secondary) diesel I6 Beemer only a few years ago and Clarkson was well impressed....Now they're talking triple T's...... Faaaark.... Sounds impressive!

[Honro]

Yeah BMW have confirmed that the new M3 will be a triple turbo. Current figures thrown around by BMW M Division is approx 400kw and around almost 650-700nm!

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I doubt M division will sink to the level of doing diesels. Look how long they denied turbos for.

This was the case at one stage, however they realised with their current V8 M3 model that the weight of the block seriously impacted the M3's Handling. Given the above is the reason why they are now going diesel with turbo's.

Personally though, i would of thought the V8 still would have been lighter then a triple turbo (weight of plumbing/inter-cooler etc), but reading alot of recent articles the V8 apparently still weighs more... Hmmmm....

[Wretched]

As part of the buildup to this weekend's Pebble Beach Concours weekend, Autoblog senior editor Damon Lavrinc is in Monterey with BMW, where he has been able to confirm that the 5 Series will receive a diesel model tuned by the automaker's M performance division.

Interestingly, the much-rumored high-performance model will probably not be badged as an M5 variant. Instead, it will likely adopt a nomenclature similar to that of the 1 Series M Coupe. Further, because of the diesel's expected high torque output, the M-tuned diesel 5 Series is likely to be offered exclusively with all-wheel drive. Following traditional BMW naming guidelines, that means the vehicle is likely to get an ungainly moniker like BMW 550d xDrive M or something similar (TheDetroitBureau.com suggests 550dM or 550dXM as other possibilities).

The 3.0-liter tri-turbo's torque output is likely to be prodigious – perhaps in the neighborhood of 650 pound-feet (edit by D-Fence: 880Nm!!) (the conventional gas M5 makes 500 lb-ft), a figure more commonly associated with heavy duty pickups. Even if you've managed to wrap your gray matter around that torque surplus, you're probably still pondering the idea of a triple-turbo engine. According to TheDetroitBureau.com, the new powerplant will be based on the current 3.0-liter diesel we've come to know and love, albeit significantly modified, including a unique cylinder head. The engine will make use of a single, small turbo to help avoid lag at launch, coupled with a pair of larger twin-scroll units to augment power at speed. We hear that peak ponies will be down from the M5's 560-horsepower output, though it is still likely to stay about 500.

Predictably, the new engine is also expected to find its way into high-performance versions of BMW's X5 and X6 crossovers, both of which already offer physics-defying M models of their own.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/08/17/b...ce=twitterfeed

From a BMW forum showing the brake packaging details.

[GASWAGON]

Hey Wretched ....Can you re load that article in proper size please...cheers!

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Honro

Yeah BMW have confirmed that the new M3 will be a triple turbo. Current figures thrown around by BMW M Division is approx 400kw and around almost 650-700nm!


This was the case at one stage, however they realised with their current V8 M3 model that the weight of the block seriously impacted the M3's Handling. Given the above is the reason why they are now going diesel with turbo's.

Personally though, i would of thought the V8 still would have been lighter then a triple turbo (weight of plumbing/inter-cooler etc), but reading alot of recent articles the V8 apparently still weighs more... Hmmmm....

Thats where your wrong, the V8 engine in the M3 actually weighs less than the old cast iron block straight 6 from the previous M3, and the weight is also further back which helps handling even more.

And diesels weigh more than petrol engines of a similar type. A diesel 6 will more than likely weigh about the same, or more than an all alloy V8.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by EF_6

Hey Wretched ....Can you re load that article in proper size please...cheers!

Unfortunately I cannot edit the post.
Could you please report the post so that the mods can either remove the pics and I can just attach them?

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Thats where your wrong, the V8 engine in the M3 actually weighs less than the old cast iron block straight 6 from the previous M3, and the weight is also further back which helps handling even more.

And diesels weigh more than petrol engines of a similar type. A diesel 6 will more than likely weigh about the same, or more than an all alloy V8.

Actually the N57 diesel is not the same as the S54 petrol in the M3 nor the same as N55. While the S54 was indeed a cast iron block the N57 is an aluminium engine and is lighter.

[Wretched]

official now:

Rumors of BMW M launching a diesel model have been circulating for over a year, and confirmation has finally arrived in the form of not one, not two, but four M-fettled oil-burners, each sporting all-wheel drive and the oft-rumored tri-turbocharged 3.0-liter inline six. And before you get excited, none of them are slated for sale in the U.S. – this is a Euro-only affair.

So with that unfortunate fact out of the way, let's get to the details.

The new M models come in the form of the M550d xDrive sedan, M550d xDrive touring, X5 M50d and X6 M50d. Each makes use of a 3.0-liter inline-six common-rail diesel with the aforementioned trio of turbos specifically developed for the M Performance range. Output is rated at 376 horsepower at 4,000 rpm and 545 pound-feet of torque available from 2,000 to 3,000 revs. If you're keeping track at home, that's a bump of 80 hp and 103 lb-ft over the 535d and 74 hp and 103 lb-ft more than the 3.0-liter mill fitted to the diesel X5 and X6.

Each model comes equipped with an eight-speed automatic gearbox and standard xDrive AWD, allowing the M550d sedan to hit 60 mph in 4.6 seconds – just four tenths of a second off the all-new M5's 0-60 run. You read that right. The M550d Touring hits 60 in 4.9 seconds, with the X5 M50d and X6 M50d passing the mark in 5.4 and 5.3 seconds, respectively. All models are limited to 155 mph and fuel consumption ranges between 6.4 liters/100km and 7.7 liters/100km.

Interestingly, the M-ified diesel 5ers ditch the standard electromechanical steering for a hydraulic system that's derived from the M5, and both the X5 and X6 variants uses systems similar to those on the X5 M and X6 M.

And if you're wondering why we won't see these M diesels here in the States, blame the necessity to reengineer the SCR (selective catalytic reduction) systems to make them comply with emissions standards across the country.

Press Release: The BMW M Performance Automobiles.

The BMW M Performance vehicles described in the attached press release are not planned for the US market. The press release is posted for informational purposes only.

New BMW M GmbH product range based on current BMW models; BMW M Performance Automobiles complement the model family with their clear focus on sports performance combined with unrestricted everyday usability and outstanding efficiency; new product category launches with four models: BMW M550d xDrive Sedan, BMW M550d xDrive Touring, BMW X5 M50d and BMW X6 M50d.

Rigorous use of BMW M GmbH development expertise in the optimisation of agility, precision and emotion; BMW M Performance Automobiles with harmonious interplay of powertrain, chassis technology and design features typical of M models; exclusive, extremely powerful engine; detailed modifications to chassis technology and power transfer; aerodynamically optimised body.

World premiere for a new six-cylinder in-line diesel engine developed exclusively for the BMW M Performance Automobiles; new, globally unique M Performance TwinPower Turbo technology: three turbochargers, common-rail direct injection with piezo injectors and maximum injection pressure of 2,200 bar; 3.0-litre displacement, 280 kW/381 hp, maximum torque: 740 Newton metres (546 lb-ft); instantaneous responses and outstandingly dynamic power delivery into the upper reaches of the rev range; maximum revs: 5,400 rpm; impressively economical thanks to optimised efficiency and extensive BMW EfficientDynamics technology, including Auto Start-Stop function and ECO PRO mode.

Eight-speed Sports automatic transmission with enhanced gearshift dynamics fitted as standard on all BMW M Performance Automobiles; BMW xDrive intelligent all-wheel drive with bespoke set-up optimised to enhance dynamics; BMW M550d xDrive and BMW X5 M50d with Performance Control, BMW X6 M50d with Dynamic Performance Control.

M-specific tuning of suspension, bodyshell mounting, engine and transmission mounting, springs and dampers, all standard and optional chassis control systems, and the Servotronic mapping for the hydraulic steering; result is significantly enhanced agility and precision in dynamic driving situations, with the linear build-up of lateral forces familiar from M cars.
BMW M550d xDrive comes as standard with the Driving Experience Control switch, including ECO PRO mode; BMW M550d xDrive Touring also features air suspension on the rear axle and automatic self-levelling; both models available as an option with Dynamic Damper Control and Adaptive Drive including anti-roll control.

BMW X5 M50d and BMW X6 M50d fitted as standard with air suspension on the rear axle and self-levelling, Adaptive Drive standard on the BMW X6 M50d and available as an option for the
BMW X5 M50d.

Purposeful design modifications in familiar M style set individual models apart and provide aerodynamic optimisation; exterior mirrors and air intake bars with striking Ferric Grey metallic paintwork; trapezoidal exhaust tailpipes; BMW Individual High-gloss Shadow Line; 19-inch M light-alloy wheels in double-spoke design standard on the BMW M550d xDrive and BMW M550d xDrive Touring; 19-inch M light-alloy wheels in V-spoke design standard on the
BMW X5 M50d; 20-inch M light-alloy wheels in double-spoke design standard on the BMW X6 M50d; exclusive 20-inch M light-alloy wheels in Ferric Grey available as an option for all models; model lettering on the door sills, boot lid and, in the case of the
BMW X5 M50d and BMW X6 M50d, also in the instrument cluster; engine cover with "M Performance" badge.

Bespoke interior design shows clear emphasis on the cars' sporting character; gearshift lever with M logo; exclusive Alcantara/Nappa leather M sports seats in Black (BMW X5 M50d, BMW X6 M50d) or Alcantara/Cloth in Grey Shadow (BMW M550d xDrive) with contrast stitching and embossed M logo; M leather steering wheel with gearshift paddles; BMW Individual roof liner in Anthracite; interior trim strips in Brushed Aluminium Shadow (BMW X5 M50d,
BMW X6 M50d) or Aluminium Hexagon (BMW M550d xDrive); interior sound design adds further emphasis to the characteristic six-cylinder soundtrack.

All BMW M Performance Automobiles contain a wide range of comfort-enhancing equipment as standard; extensive individualisation possible thanks to virtually full availability of BMW 5 Series, BMW X5 and BMW X6 options; includes Comfort Access, automatic tailgate operation (standard in Germany on the BMW X6 M50d and BMW M550d xDrive Touring), hands-free tailgate opening (BMW M550d xDrive, BMW M550d xDrive Touring), electrically operated glass/panoramic sunroof, doors with Soft Close Automatic function, trailer coupling, heated steering wheel, active seats, Adaptive LED Headlights (BMW X6 M50d), navigation systems with hard disk storage, high-quality audio and rear-seat entertainment systems.
Wide range of driver assistance systems and mobility services from BMW ConnectedDrive unmatched by any rival: Head-Up Display, Adaptive Headlights, High-Beam Assistant, BMW Night Vision with pedestrian recognition (BMW M550d xDrive), Active Cruise Control with Stop & Go function, Lane Change Warning System
(BMW M550d xDrive), Lane Departure Warning System
(BMW M550d xDrive), rear-view camera with Top View
(BMW X5 M50d, BMW X6 M50d), Surround View (BMW 550d xDrive),
Speed Limit Info, internet access, extended integration of smartphones and music players, Real-Time Traffic Information and apps for receiving web radio and using Facebook and Twitter.

Engine:
Six-cylinder in-line diesel engine with
M Performance TwinPower Turbo technology, aluminium crankcase, three turbochargers (high-pressure, with variable turbine geometry), common-rail direct injection with piezo injectors, maximum injection pressure: 2,200 bar.

Displacement: 2,993 cc,
output: 280 kW/381 hp at 4,000 – 4,400 rpm,
max. torque: 740 Nm (546 lb-ft) at 2,000 – 3 000 rpm,
specific output: 93.6 kW/127.3 hp per litre of displacement.
BMW M Performance models:[/b] performance figures, fuel consumption, CO2 emissions:

BMW M550d xDrive Sedan:
Acceleration [0 – 100 km/h (62 mph)]: 4.7 seconds,
top speed: 250 km/h (155 mph),
average fuel consumption: 6.3 litres/100 kilometres (44.8 mpg imp),
CO2 emissions: 165 g/km, exhaust standard: EU6.

BMW M550d xDrive Touring:
Acceleration [0 – 100 km/h (62 mph)]: 4.9 seconds,
top speed: 250 km/h (155 mph),
average fuel consumption: 6.4 litres/100 kilometres (44.1 mpg imp),
CO2 emissions: 169 g/km, exhaust standard: EU6.

BMW X5 M50d:
Acceleration [0 – 100 km/h (62 mph)]: 5.4 seconds,
top speed: 250 km/h (155 mph),
average fuel consumption: 7.5 litres/100 kilometres (37.7 mpg imp),
CO2 emissions: 199 g/km, exhaust standard: EU5.

BMW X6 M50d:
Acceleration [0 – 100 km/h (62 mph)]: 5.3 seconds,
top speed: 250 km/h (155 mph),
average fuel consumption: 7.7 litres/100 kilometres (36.7 mpg imp),
CO2 emissions: 204 g/km, exhaust standard: EU5.

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I'll have a touring please

[GASWAGON]

Fricken Germans...They just could'nt help themselves could they..... Tri turbo HPDI..280kw/800nm/8spd trans OMFG for the wagon..... The mighty straight 6 lives on... And it's gunna haul ***......Ford AU..... take notice ......XR6TTT!!!

[csv8]

Originally Posted by EF_6

Fricken Germans...They just could'nt help themselves could they..... Tri turbo HPDI..280kw/800nm/8spd trans OMFG for the wagon..... The mighty straight 6 lives on... And it's gunna haul ***......Ford AU..... take notice ......XR6TTT!!!

Ford Aus put a 4cylinder in the Falcon

[Nikked]

I find it funny that people think M dont like turbos...


They did some awesome work on 1.8l turbo F1 cars... over 1200hp!

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Nikked

I find it funny that people think M dont like turbos...


They did some awesome work on 1.8l turbo F1 cars... over 1200hp!

BMW used to be anti-turbo. Mercedes also, but they were all over supercharging. GTDI changed everything.

[GASWAGON]

Ecoboost is the closest thing to this.... Just look at the specs on the new V6 F truck kicken serious V8 ***...... Water cooled T-charger....Now thats raising the game..... We're not that far from the outlandish Bavarians.... Very big move in T-charger tech.

It was predicted not that long ago that both designs of charging would become very popular around this present time and rightfully so..... More air = More power .....Yeeehaaaaa!!!

[Rodge]

These are allmighty spec's for a 3 litre diesel. 280 kw's and 740nm's for a diesel, OMG what has the world of engineering come too ??

The sedan makes me want one and cringe at the same time, 3 turbo's and a common-rail fuel system at 2,200 bar, just imagine the repair costs when it goes wrong. Fuel use in incredibly low but I can't help wondering if these sort of cars are actually far more expensive to own over the long run with all that technology.

[fou_bleu]

Hmm.... To be a rich P-Plater and to smoke those bogans in their V6 Commy's! Trololololol

[Bossxr8]

They are really stretching the twin power moniker, originally it was for twin turbos, then it was for twin scroll single turbos, now its still stands for tri turbos. Wtf.

Impressive power, torque and speed though, even though the X6 is an ugly pos.

[Nikked]

Hey, if its turbo diesel, Tomic can drive it!

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by Nikked

Hey, if its turbo diesel, Tomic can drive it!

...and he'd still act like a plonker...

Seriously though, BMW has their stuff together when it comes to diesels...they say that the 320D is going to be thier "volume seller" this year in Australia. In Europe for many years now diesel has been the engine of choice from large to small in many makes...Jaguar, BMW, Mercedes, Ford, etc...and it's only places like Australia andthe USA that are lagging behind in this idea. That isn't helped by our government raising the excise (let's call it what it is...a tax) on diesel making it way more expensive than petrol, when it really should be about 2/3rds of the price. Even with the amazing economy benefits, because of the price difference, people just can't see the benefit of it in big enough numbers.

Price diesel properly in this country, put a diesel in all models of car from large to small as an option, and watch them walk out the doors.

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

...and he'd still act like a plonker...

Seriously though, BMW has their stuff together when it comes to diesels...they say that the 320D is going to be thier "volume seller" this year in Australia. In Europe for many years now diesel has been the engine of choice from large to small in many makes...Jaguar, BMW, Mercedes, Ford, etc...and it's only places like Australia andthe USA that are lagging behind in this idea. That isn't helped by our government raising the excise (let's call it what it is...a tax) on diesel making it way more expensive than petrol, when it really should be about 2/3rds of the price. Even with the amazing economy benefits, because of the price difference, people just can't see the benefit of it in big enough numbers.

Price diesel properly in this country, put a diesel in all models of car from large to small as an option, and watch them walk out the doors.

you're not wrong. The Mondeo sales contain a lot of diesels and the Territory is dominated by them.

[dddd]

Originally Posted by Rodge

These are allmighty spec's for a 3 litre diesel. 280 kw's and 740nm's for a diesel, OMG what has the world of engineering come too ??

The sedan makes me want one and cringe at the same time, 3 turbo's and a common-rail fuel system at 2,200 bar, just imagine the repair costs when it goes wrong. Fuel use in incredibly low but I can't help wondering if these sort of cars are actually far more expensive to own over the long run with all that technology.

Exactly what I was thinking