AFF Official results and discussion all States dyno event

[XRQTOR]

Originally Posted by pursuit218

broken fuel reg meant it was dumping bucket loads into the manifold and was choking to death. The oil looks like str8 fuel. The rubber diaphragm couldn't handle the 110 martini fuel and was disintegrated.

Pic mate where are the pics.

[Mr. CVE]

Originally Posted by pursuit218

broken fuel reg meant it was dumping bucket loads into the manifold and was choking to death. The oil looks like str8 fuel. The rubber diaphragm couldn't handle the 110 martini fuel and was disintegrated.

how much more timing can you give it on the martini than pump gas ?
how much more power does it make with the Martini ?

[Kev_BLNXR8_Ute]

Spose I better get on here and say a big thanks to everyone that turned up and played a part in the vic side of things. Thanks to Big AL for finding the time to come down with his big screen.It was a great bloody day.

Well done to everyone Australia wide, that turned up, for your commitment.

Hopefully mine wont be such a slug at the next one....



Kev

[cogdoc]

Don't worry there are stalkers of National champs in all states now mate.....

Awesome job on the updated list Tibbo, people put your details down ( at LEAST auto/manual!! )

[rodderz]

Originally Posted by Kev_xr8_ute

Spose I better get on here and say a big thanks to everyone that turned up and played a part in the vic side of things. Thanks to Big AL for finding the time to come down with his big screen.It was a great bloody day.

Well done to everyone Australia wide, that turned up, for your commitment.

Hopefully mine wont be such a slug at the next one....



Kev

Mate that thing of yours is definately no slug, especially with you behind the wheel and getting 1.8 60's.... with a new tune on board now by G & D you'll be into the 12's

[neil101]

Was a great day thanks to all the guys at autotech. Definately be compeating again next year should have my new engine built by then

Neil

[pursuit218]

Originally Posted by v8capri

how much more timing can you give it on the martini than pump gas ?
how much more power does it make with the Martini ?

run up to 11 degs timing and difference btw a 50/50 mix of 102 and 98 or str8 110 is about 36 kw. Normally runs 467 on 50/50 and managed 503 with 110. the 541 is with gas added.

[Headsex]

Originally Posted by Melz

In all seriousness different dynos have different readings (settings, atmospheric conditions etc. all come into play) If people want a real comparison on the mods they have done to their car maybe consider using the same dyno as what you have previously been on.... :

But for the day everyone was on the same dyno, with the same conditions (that is of course on the state by state basis) so it was an equal playing field. And it was a fantastic day!!!

Same conditions?? Cmon. The dynos were in different states. and i also believe there was a mixture of brands of dynos.. Personally, i think this wasnt a good way to do a "national dyno day" where the grand champion is ranked from all states.

Personally, The correct way would have been to use "Shootout Accredited" workshops around australia with the current Shootout software.. That way, ALL tempreture/humitity/baro presure compensaions would be applied, the Air Intake tempreture probe would have been put on the car (wasn't done in Vic), And Car's would have been strapped down properly, so that they didnt ride OFF the rear roller (which WILL increase power by 8%). Good thing the new shootout mode has a rear roller sensor which automatically deducts the power if the rear roller changes speed (ie, wheel has riden up on the front roller).

THAT WAY, Technically, You could run your car in Victoria on a rainy day, and then drive to Queensland and run your car there on a hot day, and the appropriate corrections would be applied, and you should see withing a few kilowatts difference (tipical dyno error is approx 2-6rwkw).

Danny..

[Racecraft]

Yea but it was a social day, wasn't it.. For the first attempt I think it went off very well, reguardless of who won what.. THe Qld guys and gals had a great morning out

[russellw]

Thanks for your expert input. I didn't actually see your hand up offering to assist Mark with the organisation so I will assume that this is another case of expert after the fact.

The differences were well known in advance and accepted by all those who thus chose to actually get out and have a go for the fun of it. We aren't playing for sheep stations here and nor do we profess to be pros at running dyno comps.

Frankly it's attitudes like yours that make me wonder why we actually make the effort.

Russ

Originally Posted by Headsex

Same conditions?? Cmon. The dynos were in different states. and i also believe there was a mixture of brands of dynos.. Personally, i think this wasnt a good way to do a "national dyno day" where the grand champion is ranked from all states.

Personally, The correct way would have been to use "Shootout Accredited" workshops around australia with the current Shootout software.. That way, ALL tempreture/humitity/baro presure compensaions would be applied, the Air Intake tempreture probe would have been put on the car (wasn't done in Vic), And Car's would have been strapped down properly, so that they didnt ride OFF the rear roller (which WILL increase power by 8%). Good thing the new shootout mode has a rear roller sensor which automatically deducts the power if the rear roller changes speed (ie, wheel has riden up on the front roller).

THAT WAY, Technically, You could run your car in Victoria on a rainy day, and then drive to Queensland and run your car there on a hot day, and the appropriate corrections would be applied, and you should see withing a few kilowatts difference (tipical dyno error is approx 2-6rwkw).

Danny..

[SpoolMan]

some are taking this way to serious, this was day to get as many members involved in a social event and have a great time and talk cars....we know everything is never going to be perfect when you run a different dyno comp from different states...but sometimes you just have to say lets do it....
Relax it was all about fun...
Your right Tibbo we all had a good time.... there are always a few who thrive on politics..

[Gammaboy]

Once Again, I'd like to Thank everyone involved in putting on the Day in the respective states, and also the Guys who helped me get the XY together for the day (ADXR8 and 347Stroker, couldn't have done it without you guys!)
I'm still stoked with the number I turned (And ordered the bits to sort those secondaries today!) and was a bit suprised that I won on a state level, let alone Nationally, given some of the Big hp cars getting around the forums.... I'm sure next time round I'll be put in my place :P

[rodderz]

Your quote in the thank you speech was good mark.... the guys who opened there doors for us on saturday did so instead of doing other stuff they may normally do, such as spend time with their families etc... Also putting 30 cars on the dyno, strapping down each one, is a monotonous process

[Mr. CVE]

Yes was a good effort to combine all states on the same day.
All the shops will benefit from events like these.
I'm sure everyone gained a bit from the day.
I'm sure the next one will be as good or better.

I must say I am surprised that not that many people turned up to the interstate events, even the vic one could have been busier.

[Steve]

I agree Rodderz, the G&D guys did an excellent job. I don't think I saw Glen without a smile on his face all day. I reckon he must be related to Lowndsey the way he smiles so much.

[BLKFPV]

Originally Posted by XRFPV8

....
Relax it was all about fun...
..

and the petrol fumes :hihi:

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by svtang

and the petrol fumes :hihi:

ow yes the Blue Pursuit 218 gave us a few of those fumes and didn't it set the roller alight on the 2nd run....stright up to 450rwkw and never expected it....
nice to see a few Fords like this to keep the Red team honest...

[LTDHO]

Originally Posted by svtang

and the petrol fumes :hihi:

Same ya can't run Avgas any more!! :P

[Aeron]

To be honest, who cares who the winner(s) are. It was a great day to meet everyone and see the workshops, eat, and throw ya car on the dyno. It was just a bit of fun, and i know everyone had a good time.

[Philbie]

sorry i missed the grand day! seems everyone had a blast - well done to all the winners and to all the grinners!!!!!

to all that made it possible, well done and thankyou - you know who you are.

cheers,

Philbie

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by Philbie

sorry i missed the grand day! seems everyone had a blast - well done to all the winners and to all the grinners!!!!!

to all that made it possible, well done and thankyou - you know who you are.

cheers,

Philbie

Philbie thanks for the top looking trophies, very classy...

[Mr. CVE]

Originally Posted by XRFPV8

Philbie thanks for the top looking trophies, very classy...

Yes I must say, Thanks for the trophies.

Very classy. surprised to see they are real metal, not cheap plastic.
Even 2nd was extremely nice.

Is at the front of my trophy wall :sm_headba

[Walkinshaw]

I heard a whisper that all power figures next time will be divided by the number of cams the car was running.

[Gammaboy]

Originally Posted by Walkinshaw

I heard a whisper that all power figures next time will be divided by the number of cams the car was running.

So if I rolled up with a 2 stroke Saab i'd win because it would be infinitly powerfull? (no cam!)

[Walkinshaw]

Originally Posted by Gammaboy

So if I rolled up with a 2 stroke Saab i'd win because it would be infinitly powerfull? (no cam!)

All i said was a whisper......

(ps. you stole my idea.)

[Gammaboy]

Great minds!
The fact that I have about 170hp worth of 2 stroke bikes sitting in my shed was the inspiration :P

[Overkill EF]

I am michael EL 5.0lt from WA 246.1 , only its not a 5.0 but 347 with trickflow heads. Was expecting more but need more tuning as was running way to rich.

[ricthewheelie]

Thanks to the AFF crew, APC, and all the guys who turned up. I was pleased to get the runners up trophy with 149.9 rwkwand would have pinched the winners if I didn't have an auto, who knows without the 20% loss through the auto trans I could have been punching out around 180rwkw and could have taken the national class 2 from XRChick !!! But well done XRChick, deserved winner.
Another person I'd like to thank is Barry Batten for tuning my car (we'll get it on the dyno again and get a few more neddies out of her yet eh Barry ?)
Again good on ya all you winners and competitors, a great day was had and it was good to meet some of the forum members.

[4.9 EF Futura]

Originally Posted by russellw

Frankly it's attitudes like yours that make me wonder why we actually make the effort.

Russ

Hopefully when you guys see how many people have enjoyed this event the reasons for your effort will be reaffirmed!!

I've said it before and i'll say it again - a huge pat on the back to the organisers of the event. Im not sure how many participants there were in total, but that number of cars across a handful of states is no small effort.

Originally Posted by 4.9 EF Futura

Hopefully when you guys see how many people have enjoyed this event the reasons for your effort will be reaffirmed!!

I've said it before and i'll say it again - a huge pat on the back to the organisers of the event. Im not sure how many participants there were in total, but that number of cars across a handful of states is no small effort.

Im with you 4.9 EF Futura

A excellent social day ,I would never have taken my car if we were playing for sheep stations and i got 1st in class one ,my XR8 would of came 15th last but i wanted to take it (dam the wife for working).
Good turn out in QLD