Anyone see this on ACA?

[au11futura]

Originally Posted by Nikked

You expect the police to fight crime in a Standard falcon, without any warning lights...ah, i wont go on...


You wont understand.

they dont fight crime any more they raise cash.

[bad moon rising]

Originally Posted by au11futura

not good enough if the xy's are not legal even though built like that cop cars or ambos shouldn't have it plain and simple fair for all....

no acceptions.

i think your being a bit over the top towards the cops and ambo's there just doing there job. they should get the light and aerials etc. im sure if it was your family injured and needed help youd shure as **** want the cops and ambos to come lights blaring and communicating on there radios etc.

try and do there job for a week and see how you go. i have family that do both jobs and trust me im sure trying to remove a body from a car that wrapped itself around a pole for driving like a d1ckhead isnt a fun thing to do.

at the end of the day theres rules and regs to follow. if you follow them 9 times out of 10 you wont have a problem, but if you dont give a crap and do whatever you want then you will get defected and so you should.

the only reason hoons get targeted is the way the drive on the street the unfortunate part about this is then it makes anyone in a modified car a "hoon" in the eyes of the general public.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by au11futura

we cant have tachos,

You can have tachos in your car, no one said you can't.

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by bluovl

I'm not disagreeing with you Ratter as I too reckon that is the current law.
But I could never understand quite why. In all my years of being involved with modified cars I have never seen anybody injured or killed due to a hole cut and some bonnet bracing removed. I know of cars that still retain their cut bonnets and after 25 + years haven't suffered because of it.

I guess its one of them things...i won't argue that there are some funny rules in place... but alot makes sense. Like pod gauges on bonnets and scoops, all legal if done in a correct manner.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Nikked

And there light bars protrude and hurt pedestrians, they have laptops etc...

Then there are firetrucks! Dead set most dangerous vehicles on the road!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu1ke8bHclA

Terminators in cranes are also a serious problem too, I have extensive files

[ratter]

Originally Posted by au11futura

so cop cars come from HOLDEN with **** all over them do they get outa here mate every one knows they are doing there best to raise cash.

im not defending the idiots who drag race and stuff around im defending the blokes who do it the right way and still get picked on..

yeh lap tops do harm to the coppers but we cant have tachos, same deal isnt it?

So I assume by tha comment you have removed your illegal headlight covers and have decided against a tune etc to keep you car legal

[bad moon rising]

Originally Posted by au11futura

If you all wanna get technical about all this its true no car or other vehicle should be modified in any way shape or form AT ALL its simple im not a NUTTER as some like to throw abuse at people as soon as they get proven wrong its plain and simple. im sorry for speaking the truth...

and like i said im not supporting the ones who go out dragging and acting like F@#%s on our roads, i support the hard working blokes who are proud and want to show their creations.

you can modify your car, thats why there are rules and regs. what you should do is read them, consult an enginneer, modify your car and get an engineers report.
the unfortunate part is every time there are camera around people like you always make it an "us vs them(cops)" situation. why dont you talk to your local highway cops about how you want to modify your car and see what they say. most are car enthusiests (sure some just like bein d1cks but that the exception rather than the rule)

[au11futura]

Originally Posted by ratter

So I assume by tha comment you have removed your illegal headlight covers and have decided against a tune etc to keep you car legal

keep going with personal attacks guys..

[ratter]

no attack, asking if you are going to keep your car legal or not

[ratter]

are you keeping your car legal or not?

[au11futura]

its alot more leagal than cop cars are..

[ratter]

so I take that as a no, you will modify your car so it's not legal, but then carry on about people getting picked on for no reason

[bad moon rising]

Originally Posted by au11futura

they dont fight crime any more they raise cash.

its comments like this that make you look stupid.
if you speed, youl get fined
if you drive like an idiot, youl get fined
if you modify your car illegally, youl get fined
its simple, if you have an engineer cert and you get fined for the mods on there, take it to court more than likely youl get off.

[AC]

To the matter at hand, which was the XY with the Air Filter.

I guess you all need to look at it like this..

Its like speeding, if your behaving and doing the right thing, the police have no reason to look at you.

If your car is quite obviously loud and has a stupid looking filter sticking through the middle of your bonnet, then your asking for it.
However, If it looked like a normal XY with a factory Shaker, then obviously not be so worried about it. SIMPLE.

[bad moon rising]

Originally Posted by AC

To the matter at hand, which was the XY with the Air Filter.

I guess you all need to look at it like this..

Its like speeding, if your behaving and doing the right thing, the police have no reason to look at you.

If your car is quite obviously loud and has a stupid looking filter sticking through the middle of your bonnet, then your asking for it.
However, If it looked like a normal XY with a factory Shaker, then obviously not be so worried about it. SIMPLE.

^^^^^^^what he said^^^^^^^

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by ratter

so I take that as a no, you will modify your car so it's not legal, but then carry on about people getting picked on for no reason

My cars defectable, and if the police wanted to they will have fun with it. But, i still respect there job.


Funny thing is, driving it around for 2 years as it is and being RBT'd with nought but a numberplate check.

But then again, i don't drivearound like a fool, attracting attention to myself or act like a twit when around them.

Most police seem to be friendly people.

[ratter]

Most our late model cars are unroadworthy for something, as mentioned some things scream "look at me, look at me" while others are subtle, but most of us will accept that a modified car may draw unwanted attention although it is legit, some just like to think everything is unfair even though they have broken rules

[2011G6E]

Still an awful lot of people around who just plain don't understand that yes, you can modify your car quite heavily, if you read your particular states regulations carefully. You'd be surprised what you are allowed to get away with, and anything wilder than that is still pretty much allowed as long as you get it approved by an engineer.

And that's the problem...people don't bother to read the regs, modify thier cars and knowingly or unknowingly go way beyond what the law allows, and then act surprised when they get pulled over and defected...

[blownv8au]

Come on all this thread was going really well considering the subject matter. really commonsence really needs to prevale sometimes, emergency services need the equipment they have to do there job simple as that. they have always had more leway than an average person, its required, so build a bridge. I've gotten upto a lot of bad things in my car (lessons learn't) and got in lots of trouble and have been imo been unfairly picked a couple of times BUT i've been let off many more with reasonable cops who were young once to. so you have to take the good with the bad.

[MelsGolf]

The only thing i take out of those ACA reports is stupid people doing the wrong thing, getting caught, going all arrogant and indignant about it and then acting and crying the victim and attacking the Police. What they dont realise is how stupid they look all the while alienating themselves to the general public, and making good honest car enthusiasts look guilty by association.
To suggest our fine emergency services workers should have to have vehicles defected is plain laughable.

[au11futura]

Originally Posted by MelsGolf

The only thing i take out of those ACA reports is stupid people doing the wrong thing, getting caught, going all arrogant and indignant about it and then acting and crying the victim and attacking the Police. What they dont realise is how stupid they look all the while alienating themselves to the general public, and making good honest car enthusiasts look guilty by association.
To suggest our fine emergency services workers should have to have vehicles defected is plain laughable.

and thats what im saying its because of idiots that coppers pick on everyone else.....

im not saying that they realy should take their gear off their cars.

but only to reporting and generalising and putting the hole car community in the same legue....

which is what i did with our emergancy vehicles and everyone went on the attack...

its the same thing as what they are doing to car wait to genuine car enthusiats who know the law and are engenireerd.

and yes if a officer tells me my light guards are not allowed i will take them off i have no probs with that.

[AC]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

Still an awful lot of people around who just plain don't understand that yes, you can modify your car quite heavily, if you read your particular states regulations carefully. You'd be surprised what you are allowed to get away with, and anything wilder than that is still pretty much allowed as long as you get it approved by an engineer.

And that's the problem...people don't bother to read the regs, modify thier cars and knowingly or unknowingly go way beyond what the law allows, and then act surprised when they get pulled over and defected...

Originally Posted by au11futura

and yes if a officer tells me my light guards are not allowed i will take them off i have no probs with that.

One of the NSW ones I found was on light guards/covers.
You are allowed to have them in NSW, providing you can remove them without tools.
My answer to that, was Velcro dots

And I ended up with this.

[russellw]

That's 20 minutes of my life wasted.

This thread either settles down or it will get locked.

Let me remind everyone that discussion is to be conducted without personal insults regardless of how polarising an opinion may be.

Russ

[au11futura]

ill be the first to say sorry guys, just passionate......

[au11futura]

Originally Posted by AC

One of the NSW ones I found was on light guards/covers.
You are allowed to have them in NSW, providing you can remove them without tools.
My answer to that, was Velcro dots

And I ended up with this.

image

nice mate... good alternative....

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by bluovl

I'm not disagreeing with you Ratter as I too reckon that is the current law.
But I could never understand quite why. In all my years of being involved with modified cars I have never seen anybody injured or killed due to a hole cut and some bonnet bracing removed. I know of cars that still retain their cut bonnets and after 25 + years haven't suffered because of it.

If they regard the bonnet bracing as structural steel then technically as soon as you cut it it becomes unroadworthy. Technically the same thing applies to people who cut their parcel shelves to fit bigger speakers. But i'm not sure if it would be considered structural, maybe not?

Originally Posted by au11futura

its alot more leagal than cop cars are..

I'd love to see a cop car get pulled over by another cop car and canaried.

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by Nikked

You can have tachos in your car, no one said you can't.

I think the operative words there are: "IN your car"

For some reason some people seem to think you need your instruments on display out on the bonnet...

Beautiful looking XC by the way! And your solution is what I was talking about...some people would get up in arms and all indignant and complain after the words "not allowed", without reading further to where it says "as long as they can be removed easily without tools"...which in effect means no, you can't have them...however, if you do it right, you can...

[Nikked]

Originally Posted by 2011G6E

For some reason some people seem to think you need your instruments on display out on the bonnet...

You can legally have gauges on the outside of the car...aslong as they don't reflect, have sharp edges and dont obstruct the drivers view.

Some people want mechanical gauges because they feel they are more accurate, but having oil/fuel/water lines into the cabin is mostly a no no...

[LTDHO]

'Engineered' or "Engineers report" are two words I have seen in this thread whare they have been used incorrectly.

You do realise that an engineered car can still get defected right?

[bad moon rising]

Originally Posted by LTDHO

'Engineered' or "Engineers report" are two words I have seen in this thread whare they have been used incorrectly.

You do realise that an engineered car can still get defected right?

this is true, i suppose you could for example get your exhaust engineered and if the police or rta suspected you have changed it to something different than whats on the report you can be defected but im sure in most cases if they see you have a engineers report you would have a lot more of a chance not getting defected.

back to the topic, if the guy in the xy didnt have illegal mods and did have an engineers report for all mods than he could of said that on aca and it would of made the police/rta look bad, but he didnt.
he had an illegally modified car and he got done for it. it was hes fault and he cant blame anyone but himself.it just sux that he said what he did (even though it would of been taken out of context im sure)

he should of just said, i should have looked up the rules and modified my car within the law, the cops are just doing there job,my bad.