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Old 25-11-2021, 07:46 AM   #1
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Bit disappointed that there’s no mention of the Raptor.

It’s the marquee vehicle of the lineup and not even a glimpse of it.

Patience I suppose
Sometimes you can have too much news, wait another 12 months then drip feed again to keep the name in the headlines.
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Bit disappointed that there’s no mention of the Raptor.

It’s the marquee vehicle of the lineup and not even a glimpse of it.

Patience I suppose
raptor is revealed in February. id say we will get drip feeds for another 6 months
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Old 25-11-2021, 10:03 AM   #3
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Heap of interior shots including the rear

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Heap of interior shots including the rear

Looks like it uses a wheel for the infotainment, if its anything like the BMWs you will forget the need for a touchscreen
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Old 25-11-2021, 10:04 AM   #5
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Did someone alert Franco to the disc brakes all round?
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Old 25-11-2021, 11:20 PM   #6
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Did someone alert Franco to the disc brakes all round?
Good stuff, good to see the Ranger has stepped up into the same league as the LDV T60 in the brakes department
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Electric handbrake across the range or just upper models?

Looks like towbar is better tucked under the back end, either that or the bumper is covering it better.
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Old 25-11-2021, 12:44 PM   #8
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Fords done a great job on this. Love the big ticket items like V6 Engine, Full time 4WD and new modern interior with large display.

But Some of the smaller items are also just key for it going forward.
  • Air vents for rear passengers ( for many the omission is show stopper for families)
  • Space for a dual battery under the bonnet like the current Hiulx. 4WD’ers love this
  • Rear discs great for 4wd’s that regularly get the rear drum brakes wet and submerged.

Some things waiting to hear about.
  • Largest tyre that can be fitted under the new guards. IE 33’s?
  • Size of fuel tank
  • GCM/ GVM
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Old 25-11-2021, 01:24 PM   #9
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I just watched the release video again, but this time I tried it on a VR headset (Oculus Rift).
The video made sense this way, and was much more interactive.

It was a much better experience this way, with only the dogs thinking I looked like a dork.
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Why do i get the feeling the V6 won't be offered in manual form :( Ok ok i know it's not the bread and butter these days, but it's nice to have choice. Not sure offered in the F150 with MT so probably that horse had already bolted. 600 speculative Nm with a manual trans sheesh!!!! But if they've got the 10 speed right not a showstopper I guess. I'm just a hanger on'er for a clutch.

Think i need a Sport V6. Be interested to check out the option wheels before thinking aftermarket. One helluva good looking ute.
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Why do i get the feeling the V6 won't be offered in manual form :( Ok ok i know it's not the bread and butter these days, but it's nice to have choice. Not sure offered in the F150 with MT so probably that horse had already bolted. 600 speculative Nm with a manual trans sheesh!!!! But if they've got the 10 speed right not a showstopper I guess. I'm just a hanger on'er for a clutch.

Think i need a Sport V6. Be interested to check out the option wheels before thinking aftermarket. One helluva good looking ute.
I see the want for a manual in a sportscar, but not for these, and Autos all lock gears now

besides as you say 600NM would require a pretty heavy clutch
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Bit disappointed that there’s no mention of the Raptor.

It’s the marquee vehicle of the lineup and not even a glimpse of it.

Patience I suppose
Raptor is a separate release. February 2022.

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Looks like it uses a wheel for the infotainment, if its anything like the BMWs you will forget the need for a touchscreen
No that's the drive mode select dial. It's a touchscreen. The start up graphics on both the dash and screen are cool.
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Raptor is a separate release. February 2022.



No that's the drive mode select dial. It's a touchscreen. The start up graphics on both the dash and screen are cool.
You should probably be VERY careful
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I see the want for a manual in a sportscar, but not for these, and Autos all lock gears now

besides as you say 600NM would require a pretty heavy clutch
It's all personal preference, my LSA Maloo's clutch I had prior to the Fiesta was livable and not 'that' heavy For me it's engagement with the car, no matter the vehicle, every little thing more the car does for itself lessens that connection while i understand modern auto's are brilliant and have driven a ton of them. But have to accept that they're a near dead breed. Least the manuals are still available in the bi-turbo option. And there is some indication they've finessed the 10 speed auto in the new range, hopefully they've got that smack on now. Won't stop me ordering the V6. Priorities!!!!
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Love the look, engines and features of the new ranger, Looking forward to seeing what the Everest is like.
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looking at the interior shots and it looks to have cup holders that pop out of the dash like the hilux and dmax. its the little things that add up.
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looking at the interior shots and it looks to have cup holders that pop out of the dash like the hilux and dmax. its the little things that add up.
How long until they break and need replacing though?
Maybe I'm just an old fuddy duddy but what's wrong with two cup holes infront of the centre console? No moving parts, no wearing out, no fancy pantsy retractable plastic.
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How long until they break and need replacing though?
Maybe I'm just an old fuddy duddy but what's wrong with two cup holes infront of the centre console? No moving parts, no wearing out, no fancy pantsy retractable plastic.

Yeh they don’t. I’m yet to see one broken in the 16 years the hilux has had them. It’s not a spring loaded part. Pull out and it’s there

Having them there on the dash is way better ergonomics also.

The new bt50 and dmax are nearly identical besides the Mazda not having those cup holders. That would sway my decision


Annnnd. Most tradies use the centre console cup holders as more storage
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Yeh they don’t. I’m yet to see one broken in the 16 years the hilux has had them. It’s not a spring loaded part. Pull out and it’s there

Having them there on the dash is way better ergonomics also.

The new bt50 and dmax are nearly identical besides the Mazda not having those cup holders. That would sway my decision


Annnnd. Most tradies use the centre console cup holders as more storage
I've seen plenty of busted cup holders in Hiluxs.

Here

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/boda...has/1285433750

And here

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/bowr...4x4/1285460470
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Lucky you. Point still stands. Cup holders there are premium cup holders.

One of them has 300000km. At that point a cup holder would be the least broken thing
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I've seen plenty of busted cup holders in Hiluxs.

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That poor ute has had a hard life. How do you even get bowed side steps?!
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I just want to put it out there, that what you've just seen, and what will be revealed over the next few months, is the result of the biggest program that Ford Australia has ever run! In fact, globally for Ford Motor Company this is most likely the biggest most complex program ever. Only transit comes close to the market coverage and body style options of the T6 platform and they don't have anywhere near our powertrain complexity

Just to put it into perspective, this program is the same size as PX1, PX2, PX3 and Everest combined

big up to the Ford Australia team and our global partners who made this happen.
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I just want to put it out there, that what you've just seen, and what will be revealed over the next few months, is the result of the biggest program that Ford Australia has ever run! In fact, globally for Ford Motor Company this is most likely the biggest most complex program ever. Only transit comes close to the market coverage and body style options of the T6 platform and they don't have anywhere near our powertrain complexity

Just to put it into perspective, this program is the same size as PX1, PX2, PX3 and Everest combined

big up to the Ford Australia team and our global partners who made this happen.
Despite that, you will get people fitting aftermarket trans coolers..
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Is this the ute that is the result of an alliance between Ford and VW ?
Amorak is pretty much all Fords work. VW sent some designers to work with the Ford guys at broadmeadows, but all development work on it is by Ford. It will even be built in a Ford factory.
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Despite that, you will get people fitting aftermarket trans coolers..
Nothing wrong with a good trans cooler if your working them hard on the limit frequently. Or you have been shafted by a good old trans milkshake in the past.
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Just to put it into perspective, this program is the same size as PX1, PX2, PX3 and Everest combined
Well, when you only plan to sell one model, you can spend a lot more on it....
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Well, when you only plan to sell one model, you can spend a lot more on it....
let's unpack this a little shall we?

in 2010 for PX1 we launched with 3 body styles, 3 engines, 3 transmissions and 2 emissions levels. We staggered the stg5 launch because the workload was too much

in 2015 for PX2 we freshened the cars and added the SUV body style. We also added stg6 emissions for the Euro markets

in 2018 for PX3 we added the Raptor and the 2.0 Panther engine in single- and bi-turbo forms in both manual and auto. Upgraded the Euro cars to stg6.1 emissions

in 2019 we introduced Ranger into North America with a unique engine, transmission and emissions level. While looking superficially the same as the rest of world model the body and chassis were essentially all new

Let's list out the engineering work we've just completed and are still working on. Without giving anything away. We concurrently engineered:
  • 5 different bodies
  • 7 different engines
  • 5 different transmissions
  • 4 different drivelines
  • 5 different emissions levels
  • over a dozen different trim levels

so yeah, we're only selling one model......
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let's unpack this a little shall we?

in 2010 for PX1 we launched with 3 body styles, 3 engines, 3 transmissions and 2 emissions levels. We staggered the stg5 launch because the workload was too much

in 2015 for PX2 we freshened the cars and added the SUV body style. We also added stg6 emissions for the Euro markets

in 2018 for PX3 we added the Raptor and the 2.0 Panther engine in single- and bi-turbo forms in both manual and auto. Upgraded the Euro cars to stg6.1 emissions

in 2019 we introduced Ranger into North America with a unique engine, transmission and emissions level. While looking superficially the same as the rest of world model the body and chassis were essentially all new

Let's list out the engineering work we've just completed and are still working on. Without giving anything away. We concurrently engineered:
  • 5 different bodies
  • 7 different engines
  • 5 different transmissions
  • 4 different drivelines
  • 5 different emissions levels
  • over a dozen different trim levels

so yeah, we're only selling one model......
Congratulations - you offer the one model in a few body styles, engine combinations and meet your legal obligations on emissions.

His point still stands, regardless from your point of view, from ours its one car that gets all the attention.
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Congratulations - you offer the one model in a few body styles, engine combinations and meet your legal obligations on emissions.

His point still stands, regardless from your point of view, from ours its one car that gets all the attention.
What would you rather? "One car" with a massive amount of research and development thrown at it.... or several and the same amount of r&d has to be shared across all of them?

Are they learning lessons and applying it to the new model or nah? Even if it was just one car, I'd rather just the one if it meant all their focus was on making that one better and reliable.
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Congratulations - you offer the one model in a few body styles, engine combinations and meet your legal obligations on emissions.

His point still stands, regardless from your point of view, from ours its one car that gets all the attention.
FFS some are just grumps of universal proportions, lets not forget Bronco comes off this platform, it's Ford US that has chosen not to go RHD so you have Ranger, Everest and Bronco with varying levels of Australian engineering involved....
I'd hazard a guess between Transit and Ranger these are the two most widely sold models by Ford globally and while the F-150 kills them all for outright sale it isn't offered officially anywhere apart from NA & SA. so it's R&D team didn't have so many competing requirements plus VW wanting their own non-negotiables for Amarok.
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