Turbo or V8 into XY?

[gozza]

Thats a fair point - I agree lol (about rotaries being in XY's)

[Falcon Coupe]

Originally Posted by SPK-250

6 cyl's make that at the wheels on near on dead stock internals. I fella i know has just got one together in a TE and it made just over 300rwkw and 1017nm atw.

Correct me if i'm wrong but 300rwkw's converts to just over 500hp at the engine, all with a stock 250 with a turbo grind cam.

Sure the turbo, computer, injectors etc will cost a bit, but no more than 5 g's for quality gear.

My best mate has a clevo in his XE and it makes around 450 engine hp. He had to spend the best part of around $15,000 to get there.

When my 250 gets running in a few weeks it will make 350+rwkw's and around 1400nm at the wheels. Total outlay so far, around $3200.



It's not as expensive as most people assume.

$3200 is nothing more than a hand grenade.
Is that including engineers and full insurance ?
351 is legal, Turbo = engineers.
Cutting corners is fine for a paddock bomb, not a street car.

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by gozza

rotaries are ricers? your mums a ricer - plenty of Rotaries street registered that would pass you like you were standing still -

Rice - I think not

Nothing like jumping the gun hey....


Besides, rice is rice, (i.e rotary or T6 in an XY) weather it will cover the 1/4 in 8 seconds or 18 seconds... ITS STILL RICE.

[gozza]

Just having a harmless dig - Its easy to see why i had drawn the conclusion i did


haha Bam - love the edit

why is it Rice?

if a car was powered by bumblebees and did an 8 sec 1/4 i would still respect the bumblebees

[4Vman]

Originally Posted by gozza

Just having a harmless dig - Its easy to see why i had drawn the conclusion i did


haha Bam - love the edit

why is it Rice?

if a car was powered by bumblebees and did an 8 sec 1/4 i would still respect the bumblebees

the term "rice" refers to a look and combination of mis matched parts...!!

[gozza]

Ok - if thats how you define rice then i guess its rice -

Rice to me is something that looks fast but it isn't

If something gos fast i can see its inner beauty hehe

[scoupedy]

If you want to be different go the turbo 6 BUT the Clevo should give you less trouble be cheaper overall and retain some resale price. If you want a turbo six get a half cut Nissan GTR twin turbo job from japan should be cheaper

[Falcon Coupe]

Apart from Japanese cars, the term means:

Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements.

[sly_ba]

I own a modded BA XR6T. The motors in them are good, however, I would only have a hot 351 (or other big cube V8), toploader and 9inch in an XW-XY. I am only in my early 20's but I still think that these cars are classics and should stay relatively traditional in their power plants and drivetrain. A hot 351 would have ample power for the street, more than you could legally use and it would make all the right noises.

You need to keep in mind that, at the end of the day, what everybody else says is not worth a pinch of ****. It is your car mate, you need to make up your own mind. Only you know what will make you happy in the end.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by gozza

Ok - if thats how you define rice then i guess its rice -

Rice to me is something that looks fast but it isn't

If something gos fast i can see its inner beauty hehe

LOL..but there are limits. And then you get the issue of what is fast? a 14sec is not super quick, but its certainly not "slow" either.

Ah its all to much; T6 in a XY thats being restored = no no.

[cuz]

Originally Posted by TZENU

Tom have you thought about what something like this will actually cost??? I hope you are not into women, or going out with mates.
Maybe setting yourself up with a more realistic goal will allow you to be cruising by the time your 18 not 28!

Yes, well said.
I've been in some very quick street cars and really, unless they are set up to race or drag then I don't really see the need for massive amounts of power. For a street car, once you can easily spin you tyres, why do you need more power?

Tom, I'm just wondering if you've been in a 10sec street car or a 500 hp XY. If you haven't, then maybe ask someone for a ride in one so you can gauge for yourself how much power you need. One of my mates has a 600+ hp, 460 big block in a XB sedan, it will break traction and fry tyres effortlessly at 110 km/hr. I've seen it done.
If you've tried it and thats what you want, then good luck which ever way you choose to go, but I hope you have deep pockets.

[TomXY]

no i havent been in a 500hp car, but the 250 2v isnt doing it for me at the moment. I just want something to scare myself, thats why i was thinking of a turbo 6, as if i built it cheaply while i was still on my P's within 2 years id have it ready, only expecting to spend 5k or so to begin with, and i know it wont make 500hp.

i would just love the feeling of hitting boost in an XY.

The turbo idea was just abbout cheap power, and being unique.

[Abacus]

Tom,

You might want to read through this thread in the AU section, regarding a less-expensive I6 s/c option:

Default Bargain Supercharger Kit Coming

[Daniel351]

The XY were built for V8s and V8s only IMHO The Shaker was what made the XYs and they can NOT be fitted to a 6 Cylinder Turbo and regain the look and sound...

A 6 Cylinder is fine for a daily driver, but if you want power why waste your time and money on an engine with 2 cylinders less then what the car was truely made for?

As for the VLs running 8 and 9 second quarters, look what that is doing to the young p plate drivers (as seen in this thread), more people are buying cars and turboing them to be *fully hecktic bro* and using them in the street and smashing them and writing them off and killing them and there mates and possibly other people they have never met,

Overall

XY = V8

PS: TomXY and TEaaron, why dont you both sell off your perfectly fine cars and go buy something japanese or maybe a VL? turbo charge it big 20z bro? and dress up in all your Wu Tang bullshit outfits, they would suit you both to a T : and then why your at it fitt a few thousand gauges in your car? seems to be more your style...

[Steffo]

Originally Posted by 4Vman

If you're even considering anything other than a cleveland or windsor in an XY : than you might as well go the whole "ricer" route and include a Rotary in your equation...
oh.. and some Kenwood stickers too... :Reverend:

You're not necessarily ricer if you don't go Clevo or Windsor.

Modular V8, 460BB, 429, 428, 427, 390 etc. Lots of other Ford V8 good stuff.

[FORD3V]

Originally Posted by Daniel351

The XY were built for V8s and V8s only IMHO The Shaker was what made the XYs and they can NOT be fitted to a 6 Cylinder Turbo and regain the look and sound...

A 6 Cylinder is fine for a daily driver, but if you want power why waste your time and money on an engine with 2 cylinders less then what the car was truely made for?

As for the VLs running 8 and 9 second quarters, look what that is doing to the young p plate drivers (as seen in this thread), more people are buying cars and turboing them to be *fully hecktic bro* and using them in the street and smashing them and writing them off and killing them and there mates and possibly other people they have never met,

Overall

XY = V8

PS: TomXY and TEaaron, why dont you both sell off your perfectly fine cars and go buy something japanese or maybe a VL? turbo charge it big 20z bro? and dress up in all your Wu Tang bullshit outfits, they would suit you both to a T : and then why your at it fitt a few thousand gauges in your car? seems to be more your style...

Agree 100% with all of the above.

[Mongoose]

Personally id save up a ton of money, and have the baddest XY out there. Save up for a 460 big block and a supercharger kit (and mabye a new gearbox and diff while your at it)

[cuz]

Originally Posted by TomXY

no i havent been in a 500hp car, but the 250 2v isnt doing it for me at the moment. I just want something to scare myself, thats why i was thinking of a turbo 6, as if i built it cheaply while i was still on my P's within 2 years id have it ready, only expecting to spend 5k or so to begin with, and i know it wont make 500hp.

i would just love the feeling of hitting boost in an XY.

The turbo idea was just abbout cheap power, and being unique.

Tom, at the end of the day, its your car. You are the one whos going to drive it and you are the one who is going to have to stand next to it and take the compilments and/or criticism for it. Whatever you decide to do, do it properly and don't try to cut corners to save on money. It doesn't work. POWER = MONEY

To tell you the truth, I voted for a V8 and a clevo at that. To me thats the only option, But its been done ( maybe overdone?) and if you want to think outside the square and go a turbo 6 or whatever then good on you. I'm sure there are a lot of people out the on these forums ready and willing to help.

[Daniel351]

Tom...i dont expect you to listen to me, you can go be different or whatever with a car that hasnt got so much class, why not a XD/XE/XF?

Tom your calling me a ****er? your the one that has made this thread yet again just to sir up everyone? this is exacttly what happened in your thread, do you get off on this or something? or dont your parents love you enought and you get that bored?

TEaaron just wasted god know how much on his Cortina to put a 6 cylinder in it, and hes not 100% happy with it so he wants to turbo it? why not just fit a small block V8 into it and put a decent exhaust on it to dim it down a bit? would have been alot less for a better result,

i wasnt calling you a show off, the 302 is 36 years old what the hell you expect? a top fuel door slammer? id like to see this 6 cylinder turbo in 36 years untouched still be powerful? let alone still kicking along running prefectly,

[TomXY]

fully sick uleh!

[Jock260]

Originally Posted by Daniel351

The XY were built for V8s and V8s only IMHO The Shaker was what made the XYs and they can NOT be fitted to a 6 Cylinder Turbo and regain the look and sound...

A 6 Cylinder is fine for a daily driver, but if you want power why waste your time and money on an engine with 2 cylinders less then what the car was truely made for?

As for the VLs running 8 and 9 second quarters, look what that is doing to the young p plate drivers (as seen in this thread), more people are buying cars and turboing them to be *fully hecktic bro* and using them in the street and smashing them and writing them off and killing them and there mates and possibly other people they have never met,

Overall

XY = V8

PS: TomXY and TEaaron, why dont you both sell off your perfectly fine cars and go buy something japanese or maybe a VL? turbo charge it big 20z bro? and dress up in all your Wu Tang bullshit outfits, they would suit you both to a T : and then why your at it fitt a few thousand gauges in your car? seems to be more your style...

Agree with you 100% Dan, if your going to ruin a good car Tom, at least don't ruin a classic.

Another quality thread Tom :thebirds:

[Daniel351]

Originally Posted by TomXY

fully sick uleh!

The Conversion is already starting! ammazing how quickly it works, give him an hour? or more before he puts the XY up forsale or might put it up for swaps for a Commondore...

[Jock260]

VN or VL...decisions decisions...

[Daniel351]

maybe he will do something unquie? maybe a turbod VB Bro?

[ZA-289]

Its your car buddy, are you building it for you or everyone else? these "opinion" threads are always asking for trouble.

I also believe that an XY NEEDS a V8. 95% of the people out there would hate your car with a 6T.

But maybe you want to be THAT different.??

V8 would probably be cheaper + more reliable.

i agree 100% with Daniel351

[MITCHAY]

I'd go a turbo. Who cares what anyone else thinks unless they're forking out for the build?

Good luck with it all ;)

[Van D]

I think anyone can put anything they want with their car, especially if it's something different or creative, makes people think. If people were stuck on "omg, it's aussie muscle and has to have a V8" then we wouldn't get far in developing new ideas.

As Einstein once said "Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."

And as for turbo's sounding crap.. How many people on here have driven a good import and enjoyed the experience, even to say it sounded sweet when the turbo spooled?

I mean, gimme a break.. Trucks makes the best noise of anything on the road :P

[TEaaron]

Daniel, my "6cylender" will blow the doors off your sh!t heap 302 wannabe gt that daddy bought for you, As for the wasted money comment it's not wasted money because I enjoy my "6cylender" so call it what ever the **** you want,

And I'll never be 100% satisfied with my car or with any car because I'm always thinking of ways to improve.


One day you'l learn that building a project car is more than installing a type-s sound system.

I built my car N/A because of the new P plate laws with the intention of going turbo 6 at a later stage.


So run off to your msn bum buddy XCSEDAN and toss over how you imagine your rust buckets will be like in 40 years from now and have a little B|tch and giggle behind my back because I like to explore different options other than a "351"

I'll be looking forward to your next attack on me "daniel351" with the worn out 302 so I can laugh at the effort to insult me.

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Van D

I think anyone can put anything they want with their car, especially if it's something different or creative, makes people think. If people were stuck on "omg, it's aussie muscle and has to have a V8" then we wouldn't get far in developing new ideas.

As Einstein once said "Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."

And as for turbo's sounding crap.. How many people on here have driven a good import and enjoyed the experience, even to say it sounded sweet when the turbo spooled?

I mean, gimme a break.. Trucks makes the best noise of anything on the road :P

I love hearing my turbo spool