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They've also upgraded the camera in the intersection next to the Newcastle Football Stadium (two digital camera's) and have put in another one at the intersection of Stewart Ave (old HWY) and Parry Street. Those are just the ones i've noticed. They can be recognised because the sign says "Safety Camera Ahead" instead of "Red Light Camera Ahead". |
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Newcastle has never had a 'safety' camera before. But then the government has realized they are missing out on millions of dollars in revenue, so in the past 2 weeks Newcastle has gone from 0 'safety' cameras to about 6. There is nothing safe about them.
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Don't speed = No fine... I can't believe how such a simple notion escapes some people...
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If we did not question laws then Australia would still have slavery, Aboriginies would be target practice, women would still be second class citizens and sex outside marriage would draw the death penalty. But then again you would be able to "personally attend to" public servants and academics who annoyed you without any fear of legal retribution..... |
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current viewing on quantum, the problem of speed and road kill, just for interest.
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I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: “We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men should travel at whatever speed they think is fit for the condtions.” I have a dream that one day on the red hills of the pilbara the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slaveowners will be able to sit down together at a table of brotherhood and wax lyrical about how fast we went today . I have a dream that one day even the state of Western Australia a desert state, sweltering with the heat of injustice and oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of open speed and burnouts. I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the speed of their car but by the content of their character... ![]() |
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Even the name is similar.
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Or all of those several hundred, maybe even thousands, that have all "magically" been pinged at precisely 108km/h on Eastlink when they have all stated they were doing the limit of 100km/h. This on a road that had "safety cameras" installed even before the road was officially opened, going against their own policy of placing them in known blackspots only.......... Safety my foot!!!!!........
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It's not the courts that have got it wrong. These people weren't speeding, just like you don't, yet they still got fined. It wasn't until enough people took a stand and said they weren't doing what these so called 'safety cameras" told them they were doing, that they finally admitted that the cameras wre faulty and refunded the fines. Meanwhile there was stories of motorists who had lost their jobs due to loosing their licences, when in fact they hadn't done anything wrong at all!!! Fair..........I think not Would you just cop that on the chin?
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As some of the guys have said, yes, it's revenue raising - those who speed are supporting it, those who don't speed, really have nothing to worry about. The government aren't hoodwinking anyone, most people know that they are revenue raisers. The same thing is said every time something like this comes up, it's like a broken record, round and round and round. The same few make the same poor reasoning, which has already been covered, start their character assassinations of those who disagree with them, and the thread gets locked. Am I missing a step here? If there weren't idiots in the world - you would all be taxed to death...
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Revenue raising, NO. Voluntary tax, YES. dont speed and you wont pay any fines, simple logic.
Perth has just adapted speed cameras at traffic lights, where it catches you going through red lights and also speeding through red lights. A bogan called in to a 6PR radio station question and answer radio show and asked "is there any signage so we know the camera is there? as it is obviously revenue raising", and the radio host shut him up with this answer, "Yes there is, theres a pole with 3 lights on it, Red, Orange and Green" Volunatry tax, dont speed, and dont pay it. I would rather the government make money this way, through catching idiots speeding and not obeying road rules then taxing us some other way. We all signed an agreement when we got our licence that we will obey road rules. I have not sped since 2004 after i was sick of getting speeding fines, and guess what, i havent had a speeding fine since! if you cant control the throttle of your car and keep it driving at a constant speed within the speed limits then get off the road, until then im happy for the government to take money from IDIOTS. |
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This. It's simple really.
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anyone who says they don't speed is a liar. a large % of motorists do actually try to stay below the limit but the fact is there will always be times when they slip over by 1 or 2km/h. if this happens where a camera happens to be, there is a good chance you will be nabbed.
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Not just slipped to 1 or 2 over. I have done 10 over before and not realized.
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I'm amazed your not in the morgue with that kinda recklessness!!
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What he said, years ago I got plenty of speeding fines, as I used to speed all the time, got a warning letter send to my house by the RTA saying if you get another fine your license will be suspended. Since I need my license for work, and will not have a job if I lose my license, and I have two kids to feed and a mortgage to pay, I made a conscious decision to not speed any more. Have not had a single speeding ticket since (about six years), even wave to the boys in blue when they have one of their radar traps set up in one of the usual spots on my way to work. By the way I also 100% support a zero alcohol limit for ALL drivers, if you are going to drive a car, there is no need to drink, full stop ![]() Quote:
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Given that you have described having limited awareness of how fast you are really going then there are 4 possible options: check the speedo occasionally(yes we have heard how you are going to crash and burn if your eyes leave the roadway for less than half a sec) enable your speed alert device(yes we have heard how irritating you think they are) travel at a speed where if you do start going 10km/h faster then you are still within the speed limit. hand in your licence. Option 5: every Ben,man and his dog deciding they dont need to contemplate any of the above....no thanks. |
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![]() a competent driver should be able to periodically check their speed and maintain a certain speed in their vehicle without taking too much attention away from the road. the only thing i will say, is the paranoia(sp) created by the govt regarding speed has had an effect with creating drivers who focus far too heavily on trying to stay below or at the magical number on the sign. speed alert devices can't really be used for all speed zones, as our intelligent govt's have decided its a fantastic idea to change the zone, even on the same road, every few km's. still not really an excuse for speeding. as for travelling 10km/h below the limit 'just in case' you may speed. this is one of the biggest issues with traffic flow. you have these kinds of people who live in fear of fines and think they are much safer because they drive slower, and you have the other extreme where drivers still think they can disregard the speed limit (personal views on safe speed don't override the speed sign) and travel 10,15 or 20km/h faster. suddenly you have a large speed discrepancy between motorists on the same stretch of road. this is why i'm against the low tolerances for camera's. people shouldn't be scared to just drive along with the flow of traffic even if that means going over by a couple of km's every now and then. it creates far less issues than a rolling road block/mobile chicane. people who intentionally speed and push the limits will do so regardless of what laws the govt bring in, so its always those who 9 times out of 10 are trying to do the right thing. |
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