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It would make sense for ford and holden to place both their local assembly operations under the same shell company for the next few years. Fords part will still be entitled to the same government contributions (as combined they will be over 30,000 cars), and they could split the extra contributions that ford will still be entitled to. For a few million dollars to put it all together, the potential payoff would be circa $60 million per year.
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Xtrail has been round since 2007 basically unchanged.
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The only one of those cars comparable to a Territory (being a volume selling family soft roader) is the X trail which had its 3rd gen model revealed last year, so it was a ~6 year model cycle which is the industry average. Territory is 10 this year and by the time they put it to rest in 2016 it will have been in service for 12 years.
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Territory is the one model that Ford butchered. Falcon was always going to die, the large sedan market just can't support it. But with Territory Ford owned that market from before the start, I remember they sold over 1000 of them a month before they officially went on sale. They let that model wither and eventually everything else caught up to it. If they had have looked after it a bit better we might be sitting here discussing a very different topic...
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30,000 cars has obviously been abandoned, but what that means for Ford I don't know. Ford would have done the sums and they would know what it will cost them, but in reality it's not like the government is going to help them in any way, shape or form anyway with Tony Abbott up on his high horse.
It might only effect them for next year anyway, and they will probably use it an an excuse to pull the plug sometime in 2015. I'd bet my life savings that Ford will not make it to 2016. |
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The fall was so much faster than anyone could have imagined.
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I don't think Tezza is that bad...just specification needs improving..
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The original Cherokee that we got had equally as bad reputation yet they seem to be selling quite well today.
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According to who? Territory uses Ford's current global design theme for SUV's, Explorer does not.
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Tis true. The last generation Explorer sold here didn't seem to create many friendships...
The front end is the SZ Territory's best but the side-profile, in particular, is looking dated. OK, but dated. |
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![]() The SZ is (and looks like) a 2004 car with a 2013 "current global design theme" front end. Don't get me wrong, the high-end SZ front ends look great but there's no hiding the car's age when you look at that side profile, and that rear end isn't exactly fresh. Last edited by Focused; 10-02-2014 at 12:33 AM. |
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It might not be using the newest design language but the Exploder does have a much more modern body. The Territory does well considering its age. I remember when the original Territory came out and made North America's new Ford Freestyle look stupid. The Freestyle came out during the same year as the original Territory, yet it finished up production way back in '09.
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As much as I like the Territory (and always have) it doesn't compare with the Explorer.
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Still have people telling me who would buy a new falcon, they do head gaskets all the time, even though this was fixed in the au (about 15 years ago)
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Territory is a better car then the Explorer. You cant even get the Explorer in diesel... It would not sell in this country as everyone in the SUV market is diesel happy.
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Whats that, the base model explorer only has plastic hubcaps?
Yeah 270 kw gas guzzler.
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The Buick motors in the VN-VY were known to do the gaskets on the heads and inlet manifolds .
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