What do FPV's have over HSV's? - Page 3

jpd80 · 08-03-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOrangeSpider

Problem here is I'm comparing what HSV has in other divisions rather then power, that FPV doesn't, so it obviously is in that price range.

Check and you'll find that I was replying to dkpioe's post, not yours.....

Something you may want to rememeber is thet Holden/FPV buyers are not necessarily Ford/FPV buyers
and assuming that both needs to counter each other's products is a recipe for disaster.

One variation to that, G6ET does not sufficiently cover the "Calais and Calais V" niche.

anto · 08-03-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Uwish

FPV sell no where near the HSV numbers.
The two are direct competitors, not euro both Aussie performance cars.

So for me HSV has good looks ( well E1 all models and E3 senator only after that. )
Interior; HSV is above and beyond the FPV.
Wheels = hsv
suspension= hsv

But I do like the clean lines of the current FPV range and as I always chase power.........A new GT wins for me currently.

Not havin a go at you but, See.... personal bias aside, I just cant understand how anyone could think that. I looked at one recently out of curiosity and the interior is an absolute monstrosity clad in cheap plastic.

XR6Naranja · 08-03-2012, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Auslandau

Um ..... F6 FG drive away new $59,000. Same as corvette price??? I would suggest you go and find out the cost of these. Also take into consideration the conversation from lh to rh and then will see how many F6's you could have in your garage. Bit of research goes along way

Don't care why you started this thread but only letting it Continue because it is entertaining in a weird sort of way

My pricing was based off car sales, not actually sure why I said 70-80, as car sales basically says 60-65 for 2011 models. or 60-70 for a GT.

As far as the Corvettes, you can grab one for 90,000 already Right hand, so you'd still have one F6 or one GT.

But in all honesty none of this has to do with what I was asking, I realize they are reasonably cheap compared to most, but not giving everything competitors are, which is why I asked the question to find out what the differences are to give me an idea of the differences.

XR6Naranja · 08-03-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jpd80

Check and you'll find that I was replying to dkpioe's post, not yours.....

Something you may want to rememeber is thet Holden/FPV buyers are not necessarily Ford/FPV buyers
and assuming that both needs to counter each other's products is a recipe for disaster.

One variation to that, G6ET does not sufficiently cover the "Calais and Calais V" niche.

Oh apologies, I was attacked at all angles for misunderstandings, so covering my **** in all places as well.

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Not havin a go at you but, See.... personal bias aside, I just cant understand how anyone could think that. I looked at one recently out of curiosity and the interior is an absolute monstrosity clad in cheap plastic.

I'd like to know why Holden could incorporate 3 guages into their interior but the FG F6 couldn't?

Also, no proof to back this up, just brief reading, why is it that Holden has incorporated a lot of live information in their touch screen computer about the car, but Ford hasn't done this, correct me if they have however.

I disagree with Holdens placement of the window switches however, allows for other people to play with them, and seems totally out of the way.

pottery beige · 08-03-2012, 01:52 PM

brandnew corvette.. landed and converted for $90k.. lololol@bs.com...

**DJM83** · 08-03-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eb2monty

If they stayed with the Tickford name, they'd have a similar brand value to HSV.

I do agree but that is for another day.
I may not have been the biggest fan of the falcon much anymore but if money would allow I'd have a new F6 in a heartbeat. It's funny people that put crap on FPV can't afford one.
Long live the GT though.

XR6Naranja · 08-03-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

brandnew corvette.. landed and converted for $90k.. lololol@bs.com...

Yeah actually that's true, I wasn't looking at Australia's prices, realized after posting that.

Closest you'll get is 100k, second hand.

pottery beige · 08-03-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOrangeSpider

Yeah actually that's true, I wasn't looking at Australia's prices, realized after posting that.

Closest you'll get is 100k, second hand.

mayswell throw in a second hand ferrari v FPV while were at it......

its getting deeper.........

TZENU · 08-03-2012, 02:17 PM

There is an 07 Vette on ebay - second hand for 140k.... You may need to rethink the cost of bringing in a 2011 one, especially the cost involved of a RH conversion, plus importation and rego costs.. Hate to think of the cost of the latest ZR1 landed here!

pottery beige · 08-03-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TZENU

There is an 07 Vette on ebay - second hand for 140k.... You may need to rethink the cost of bringing in a 2011 one, especially the cost involved of a RH conversion, plus importation and rego costs.. Hate to think of the cost of the latest ZR1 landed here!

but does it have three gauges.. the FPV only has two......

XR6Naranja · 08-03-2012, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

but does it have three gauges.. the FPV only has two......

I failed to see the two incorporated into the dash cluster, hence my HSV comment.

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Originally Posted by TZENU

There is an 07 Vette on ebay - second hand for 140k.... You may need to rethink the cost of bringing in a 2011 one, especially the cost involved of a RH conversion, plus importation and rego costs.. Hate to think of the cost of the latest ZR1 landed here!

I'm not comparing the ZR1, they are way off that mark, I was originally talking about the Z06, I realize bringing in the Vette is was a bit over the top, point was that the opinions of many people is that they will go across the ocean for their cars if Ford doesn't catch up or if like I said they bring out the cars that I have heard about, but the main topic still stands "What do FPV's have over HSV's?"

**Grunter** · 08-03-2012, 02:44 PM

Wow this place is becoming quite un-fun. Either getting comments bagging Ford/FPV with little backup on facts, or just as sad, the other way bagging other brands with as little backup or facts.

Trolls sprouting crap, or troll busters sprouting crap back at them, and those looking for balanced discussion, trying to put forward their opinions for all makes and models being accused as both trolls and one eyed zealots, from both sides.

So sad.

Rodge · 08-03-2012, 02:51 PM

Question was answered way back.

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Rodge FPV,
Significantly stronger engine, circa 50 rwkw's better than any HSV.
Better wider spread of torque.
Vastly better world class ZF transmission.
Best suspension set-up for average real world driving conditions
8 Inch touchscreen
Wasn't designed by a 14 year old school-kid and doesn't look like a motorised mechano set

If the Op can't understand the advantages of an FPV then there's none so blind as those that will not see. I reckon a mod should close this before the Op digs a hole for himself all the way to China

pottery beige · 08-03-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Grunter

Wow this place is becoming quite un-fun. Either getting comments bagging Ford/FPV with little backup on facts, or just as sad, the other way bagging other brands with as little backup or facts.

Trolls sprouting crap, or troll busters sprouting crap back at them, and those looking for balanced discussion, trying to put forward their opinions for all makes and models being accused as both trolls and one eyed zealots, from both sides.

So sad.

purely your opinion...

meh.. im tired of the run down the product bandwagon that exists around here..

especially by those that have not previously or have no plans whatsoever in the future of purchasing the product.....

anyway..

the internerd is full of experts and i am one of them.....

XR6Naranja · 08-03-2012, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodge

Question was answered way back.

If the Op can't understand the advantages of an FPV then there's none so blind as those that will not see. I reckon a mod should close this before the Op digs a hole for himself all the way to China

Oh I seen it, it just seems as though pottery has felt the need to mock me into being a bad guy for asking such a simple question.

But if I'm not wrong, mockery is a form of imitation, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Black F6 · 08-03-2012, 03:04 PM

I bought my F6 for $58k with leather, cameras, dark argents and mats, i looked at a GTS the cheapest one i could get was $80k, the GTS certainly didnt have $22k of extras over a F6. (Fixed for Rodge

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And the most important thing that HSV is missing is BOOST!!!!!!

XR6Naranja · 08-03-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Black F6

I bought my F6 for $58k with leather, cameras, dark argents and mats, i looked at a GTS the cheapest one i could get was $80k, the GTS certainly did have $22k of extras over a F6.

And the most important thing that HSV is missing is BOOST!!!!!!

Well these were the type of posts I was looking for mate, I hear HSV will be joining the boost department soon, luckily with Fords years of experience HSV hopefully doesn't pull something quicker then what we already have.

Rodge · 08-03-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Black F6

I bought my F6 for $58k with leather, cameras, dark argents and mats, i looked at a GTS the cheapest one i could get was $80k, the GTS certainly did have $22k of extras over a F6.And the most important thing that HSV is missing is BOOST!!!!!!

You're kidding right ???? If not, go on then and humour us seeing this is one of the silliest threads ever.... What has a HSV GTS (that's slower than an F6, yes I've driven both), got that could possibly be worth $22,000 ? I didn't know those silly guages were just over $7,000 each

pottery beige · 08-03-2012, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOrangeSpider

Oh I seen it, it just seems as though pottery has felt the need to mock me into being a bad guy for asking such a simple question.

But if I'm not wrong, mockery is a form of imitation, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

ive heard it all now....

oh and the window switches are in the middle console due to LHD export consideration...

be damned peep b a fiddlin ma switchs.....

contact HSV with your gripe.. seriously do it......

ChrisCE · 08-03-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Wiggum

No...Dig up stupid!

XR6Naranja · 08-03-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

ive heard it all now....

oh and the window switches are in the middle console due to LHD export consideration...

be damned peep b a fiddlin ma switchs.....

contact HSV with your gripe.. seriously do it......

I simply said what I don't like about the HSV's interior in reply to the previous post.

But hey, thanks for trying to contribute ;)

At minimum, my "hole digging" has provided some sort of entertainment for some.

FordACE · 08-03-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodge

You're kidding right ???? If not, go on then and humour us seeing this is one of the silliest threads ever.... What has a HSV GTS (that's slower than an F6, yes I've driven both), got that could possibly be worth $22,000 ? I didn't know those silly guages were just over $7,000 each

I think he missed an "'nt" in that sentence.

Black F6 · 08-03-2012, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodge

You're kidding right ???? If not, go on then and humour us seeing this is one of the silliest threads ever.... What has a HSV GTS (that's slower than an F6, yes I've driven both), got that could possibly be worth $22,000 ? I didn't know those silly guages were just over $7,000 each

Bahaahhahahahahah i missed the not

XR6Naranja · 08-03-2012, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodge

You're kidding right ???? If not, go on then and humour us seeing this is one of the silliest threads ever.... What has a HSV GTS (that's slower than an F6, yes I've driven both), got that could possibly be worth $22,000 ? I didn't know those silly guages were just over $7,000 each

Over all, since you have driven both, father owns a GTS, only drove it once, haven't driven an F6 yet, over all GTS had nothing over the F6?, was the GTS Supercharged?

Considering everything here,
Technology,
Comfort,
Handling?

Falcman0o7 · 08-03-2012, 03:39 PM

FPV SC GT!
It's a ford, it's supercharged, goes hard, sounds mint and has an engine that is not based on a 60 year old design that still cost the same.

PS, How come the 5.4 had to go due to it not meeting tough new pollution rules yet the dino 6.0-7.0 pushrod donks over at GM continue on??

ChrisCE · 08-03-2012, 03:45 PM

Seriously Orange, instead of feeding the ever growing Troll,

Once your over the restrictions, go to the dealers and test drive them for yourself, even if Fords marketting isn't the loudest, an FPV saleseman will certainly go above & beyond to explain all the features & optoins,

You will never get an unbiased oppinion that is perfectly neutral as ALL people have different tastes in absolutely everything,
once you realise that then you also realise that your own oppinion is the only one worth anything to you.

Black F6 · 08-03-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOrangeSpider

Over all, since you have driven both, father owns a GTS, only drove it once, haven't driven an F6 yet, over all GTS had nothing over the F6?, was the GTS Supercharged?

Considering everything here,
Technology,
Comfort,
Handling?

I raced a SC GTS at WSID, stock for stock, i ran 12.3 he ran 12.4, he wasnt happy when i told him mine was stock

Seeing that he paid $130k for his and i paid $58k

XR6Naranja · 08-03-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Black F6

I raced a SC GTS at WSID, stock for stock, i ran 12.3 he ran 12.4, he wasnt happy when i told him mine was stock

Seeing that he paid $130k for his and i paid $58k

mate that's fair enough.

Nice work too, puts to rest the ever growing which one would win.

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Originally Posted by ChrisCE

Seriously Orange, instead of feeding the ever growing Troll,

Once your over the restrictions, go to the dealers and test drive them for yourself, even if Fords marketting isn't the loudest, an FPV saleseman will certainly go above & beyond to explain all the features & optoins,

You will never get an unbiased oppinion that is perfectly neutral as ALL people have different tastes in absolutely everything,
once you realise that then you also realise that your own oppinion is the only one worth anything to you.

Yeah seems Trolls have no age restriction, cheers for the info, I just like the question my judgement before making a move, often when it comes to buying things that's all.

SLVR GT · 08-03-2012, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pottery beige

GT badge nuff said......

pottery beige · 08-03-2012, 04:44 PM

trollollolloolllooo.........

you come on a ford forum and bag the product........

great effort..