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Genesis might struggle early, but as an employee of a Hyundai dealership (not that this really qualifies me for much) I know that Hyundai when committed to something act pretty strongly about it. I don't think it will be much different for Genesis.
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The FPV zealots have jumped to mustang and very low klm HSV commodores are still plentiful second hand. Stinger was never going to appeal to the non V8 crowd no matter how good it is ( was ) Stacks of em available on Carsales. Slow movers. Proof is in the sales......
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Biggest hurdle this car has it's a bit pricey for a Hyundai. Anyone agree?
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Looks nice. Hopefully we will see more of these than all the Stingers I don’t see.
Although if I were to get a Genesis I’d probably want the big luxo sedan. G80 I think it is. |
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It's hard to see because they'll be developing a next generation G70 so production and development costs will be shared. Like the i30 N for Hyundai, the model may not necessarily be there for production numbers as a target but the brand value and credibility it can win them is quite large.
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I would challenge people... not to buy a Hyundai, but to spend some time with it and make an unbiased opinion. Drive an early Veloster with it's ****house DCT and then drive the current iteration of the i30 1.6 turbo with DCT. Compare the fit and finish of the vehicles and the drivability and improvement they made on things like said DCT. Drive a 2011-2017 DM series Santa Fe. These cars were very popular, easy to sell. Then drive a MY18+ TM Santa Fe and tell me that you can't see marked improvement on the quality, fit, finish and feel of these cars. Whether you would own it is irrelevant in some way, because people have their own faith in the products they support and there's nothing wrong with that. Having driven several of the first generation Genesis' vehicles and having driven the Kia Stinger a bit I just know that the G70 would be an awesome car. Does it have the 8 cylinders that so many enthusiasts that would be found here want? No.. but that's not to suggest that this car or any 6 cylinder euro or 6 cylinder anything is aimed at that market. I guess my point is, 'for a Hyundai' sucks because they really aren't quite where they used to be. IMHO of course. Apologies for being defensive, I guess I support the brand which isn't terrible for someone tasked with managing people who have to sell them ;)
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It took Toyota over of 2 decades to gain their "bulletproof" image. The same silly comment (for just) can be made about any manufacturer. Do you reckon many said "$169,000 !! for a Holden" when referring to a HSV GTS-R W1. Dr Terry |
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You’re a sales manager for Hyundai and state that you support the brand but going by your signature block don’t own one?? |
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No, in fact a lot of people agree is a lot of car for the money.
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Times have moved on and the Hyundai of today is a million miles from that... The current Santa Fe gets rave reviews (and IMHO look awesome) and the I30N, being Hyundai's first ever real Hot Hatch, is the same way.. The media all love it...THey are selling decent product's in the segments that are popular... If Hyundai/Genesis can market the G70 better than Kia did with the Stinger it might sell a few...
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Possibly a company car supplied?
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Agreed, if he's a new car sales manager he basically gets pick of the lot and turned over every few thousand k's at worst, why would you buy one when they give it to you as part of the deal.
On top of that, buying one wouldn't be supporting his sales staff anyway as it wouldn't go into their monthly target. When I last worked in a Toyota dealership the manager's personal toy which he kept on site was a 2 door HQ Monaro. |
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Regarding my own car, the Jeep in the signature replaced a 2018 i30 N hatch that I bought for my wife back in October last year. I held on to it for 6 months but then we had our second child and while we thought the hatchback would be suitable enough in size, obviously it wasn't.
I don't particularly own non-performance vehicles so there was nothing else I would be interested in purchasing from the Hyundai stable yet, although if the rumoured Tucson N comes along in the next year or so I could consider trading the Jeep for it, maaaaybe. I bloody love the Jeep. I get a company car for personal use which is usually an i30 N, Santa Fe or Tucson Highlander.
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The G70 is going to face a tough challenge like so many competitors in this segment.
The mid-size luxury sedan segment is bursting with excellent products. The problem is, when most people think "Luxury car" they gravitate to the three German brands BMW, Mercedes Benz and Audi. I personally believe that there is excellent value to be had in the mid-size sedan segment outside the 3-Series, C-Class and A4. Spec for spec cars like the Lexus IS, Infinity Q50, Volvo S60, Jaguar XE and Alfa Romeo Giulia are compelling offerings for those who look outside the box. The G70 is another compelling mid size sedan that is going to get lost in the pack. I don't really understand why Hyundai decided to re-launch the Genisis brand with sedans when the market has shifted towards SUV's.
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….. I am really liking these new Genesis vehicles , esp the G70. Yea, I agree they will have a tough time breaking into a tough market segment, but they would be my go to car for sure.
Now our beloved Falcons are no longer available new and so few RWD cars available , it sure sits at the right price for a quality performance car ie the 6T anyway. Thanks to guys like Albert B (30 yr head of BMW Msport) you can be sure these are no longer 'throw away' cars that some people cant let go of ,, from the past 15 years or so. Quality is up near Mazda these days for sure. Plus a 5 year warranty trumps the 3 yr of the German Big 3, plus saving of bout $30k in price for equal type vehicle. Also, the service/ maintenance costs I am sure wouldn't be the mouth watering amounts of those as well. .. Looking good.. !! |
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Actually, quality is better than Mazda if you choose to use the JD Powers quality survey results (which most auto industry professionals use)
Genesis rated at the top in 2018 and 2019 for initial quality in the USA They are following the Lexus business strategy to extract more coin from the purchaser with a higher level of quality and refinement for a little extra cost Last edited by 383hq; 27-06-2019 at 06:57 PM. |
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Today's Hyundais are brilliant in terms of quality/reliability and IMO equal to the Japanese,
I'm sure that's why so many people are return buyers and why others have slipped down the sales pole. The whole buying experience is a joy, especially for women buyers. |
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And I will refer back to my comment on my mates BMW...
http://wwww.fordforums.com.au/showth...50#post6300850 And my 9yo 58" Samsung plasma TV that needed a panel replacement 6 years ago, that came with a blown pixel in the middle of the bloody screen, and my Samsung computer monitor that ONLY DOES 60Hz (living in a 50Hz country). I still find some love for LG though, which usually is good value. (hmmmmmm, BMW.) Last edited by JasonACT; 27-06-2019 at 11:12 PM. |
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I waited for this car. I really wanted to check one out. It was delayed, delayed again, postponed, and the whole sales process is well, unusual. Have had a Stinger GT now for 8 months and it's quite simply a brilliant car.
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