Chris Gayle v Mel McLaughlin - storm in a teacup? - Page 2

superyob · 06-01-2016, 10:40 AM

We should not rest comrades until all traits of the human character has been sterilised and compressed into a compacted substrata overlaid with slick professionally correct behaviour...

I mean since when did men ever take their chances with attractive females? Where does that ever happen? Mr Gayle is worse than Hitler!!!

superyob · 06-01-2016, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Surely there is a difference between doing this in the workplace (they are both getting paid) and trying to pick up/pass a compliment in a more appropriate situation?

I think I am tiring of this word. It seems to be one of the prevalent jargon words of the 21st century, being used to describe all manner of trivia and minutia...

Syndrome · 06-01-2016, 10:45 AM

“One believes things because one has been conditioned to believe them.”
― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World

If you have not read this book I suggest that you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World

superyob · 06-01-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

Well it certainly wasn't a storm in a 'D' Cup.

Oops, was that a sexist comment

Mr Gas, I am deeply offended by your irreverent attitude to female bosom coverings. You sir, are worse then Herr Schickelgruber...

**GasoLane** · 06-01-2016, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by superyob

'Nothing wrong with the 70's. At least...we weren't overrun and dictated to by politically correct decaf soy latte sipping pansies...'

Agreed, we need more Alf Garnett's

katefactor · 06-01-2016, 10:54 AM

Must admit I do shake my head when someone orders a decaf organic soy latte with an extra shot in a medium cup 3/4 full and no hotter than 60 degrees.

really what ever did go wrong with normal coffee

**Polyal** · 06-01-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by superyob

I think I am tiring of this word. It seems to be one of the prevalent jargon words of the 21st century, being used to describe all manner of trivia and minutia...

Im a little tired of people playing the easy card.

So would any of you, in a professional job, attempt a sleazy pickup line to your boss on national TV (in jest or not)? Or even in a meeting? Id hope not because guess what, its not appropriate.

Thats all I am getting at. I'm all for heterosexual relationships being promoted but in this situation it did not need to be publicized. Shes just trying to do her job.

XBROO · 06-01-2016, 12:25 PM

Yep the difference is the work place, there's a manner in which one should act and that wasn't it. She's a reporter and reports on the big bash, now she might feel uncomfortable when trying to interview this bloke again. Now why should she have to put up with that, there's a time and place for flirting.

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 06-01-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Im a little tired of people playing the easy card.

So would any of you, in a professional job, attempt a sleazy pickup line to your boss on national TV (in jest or not)? Or even in a meeting? Id hope not because guess what, its not appropriate.

Thats all I am getting at. I'm all for heterosexual relationships being promoted but in this situation it did not need to be publicized. Shes just trying to do her job.

I get where you're coming from, but I really don't see why the location (ie working or not) makes any difference. If someone finds something offensive, then it makes no difference whether that be at work or at home. Offensive is offensive irrespective of environment.

So, are you saying that Mel found the comment to be offensive because she was on the job, but would not find it offensive if everything else was the same but she wasn't working? That makes no sense.

And let's be honest here, Mel did not appear to find the incident offensive, until such time as the media jumped on the bandwagon. Embarrassing perhaps, but not offensive.

rst2000 · 06-01-2016, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by XBROO

Yep the difference is the work place, there's a manner in which one should act and that wasn't it. She's a reporter and reports on the big bash, now she might feel uncomfortable when trying to interview this bloke again. Now why should she have to put up with that, there's a time and place for flirting.

Let's hope she doesn't have to interview Rampage Jackson.......World War Three would break out..lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq5zXnDFfJg

BadMax · 06-01-2016, 12:55 PM

Social media has certainly created a bunch of whiney bitches. Just get over it, if YOU are offended, fine, just don't try to convince those that aren't!

**Polyal** · 06-01-2016, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by psychobimbo

I get where you're coming from, but I really don't see why the location (ie working or not) makes any difference. If someone finds something offensive, then it makes no difference whether that be at work or at home. Offensive is offensive irrespective of environment.

So, are you saying that Mel found the comment to be offensive because she was on the job, but would not find it offensive if everything else was the same but she wasn't working? That makes no sense.

And let's be honest here, Mel did not appear to find the incident offensive, until such time as the media jumped on the bandwagon. Embarrassing perhaps, but not offensive.

Im saying that she would not be prepared, nor should she have to deal with, having a pickup line thrown at her while trying to be serious and reporting in a professional manner.

She probably didnt find it offensive, I didnt, but to be subjected to that on national TV and not be prepared for it is unfair for her.

Id be very annoyed if I was doing some public speaking in a professional situation and the people I am talking with deliberately act out of what is to be expected.

I feel for her being put in that situation on TV, I have no issue with blokes trying to pick up chicks...you just dont do it at work and not on national TV...dont understand why thats so hard to grasp.

**Polyal** · 06-01-2016, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BadMax

Social media has certainly created a bunch of whiney bitches. Just get over it, if YOU are offended, fine, just don't try to convince those that aren't!

Im personally not offended, but those who are not offended also need to understand that some are aswell...goes both ways.

This has nothing to do with the act itself, rather than arrogance it was delivered in and the unfairness on her in such a public setting. If he through that line right at the start she would not have been in a state to continue the interview, how could you with a straight face?

BadMax · 06-01-2016, 01:19 PM

@polyal it's all about perception. I think you've got a couple cubic feet of sand in your vag, you probably think I'm insensitive...

Now you're passing judgment on whether or not she would have continued if he had of timed it earlier. Seriously, you're speculating using your own beliefs.

Bossxr8 · 06-01-2016, 01:32 PM

Can't believe no one has posted the Helen Lovejoy "won't someone think of the children" pic

**Polyal** · 06-01-2016, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BadMax

@polyal it's all about perception. I think you've got a couple cubic feet of sand in your vag, you probably think I'm insensitive...

Now you're passing judgment on whether or not she would have continued if he had of timed it earlier. Seriously, you're speculating using your own beliefs.

Speculative? She pretty much did not continue in the same manner she had before it was said, so its hardly a long bow to draw.

Clearly some people who see no issue with this are either self employed (so generally dont give a hoot) or dont hold a position that requires high professionalism.

I certainly dont trust a poll done online to suggest that "71%" (who, what size is the sample etc) that think its was all ok...most people with a brain dont enter online polls anyway.

**MercurySilver** · 06-01-2016, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndrome

“One believes things because one has been conditioned to believe them.”
― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World

If you have not read this book I suggest that you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_New_World

And Huxley knew because he was part of the conditioning agena.
Predictive Programming

In todays world you can barely say anything
He shouldve known this and maybe done it off camera if he wanted to try and get in her pants

wodahs · 06-01-2016, 01:49 PM

sorry but

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Originally Posted by Polyal

Id be very annoyed

isn't being offended

they are two different things

and if I was to say some thing that I don't feel as being offensive but is take in such a way where do I stand , or should I take offence at that you didn't understand where I was coming from

edit I didn't find it offensive , game and stupid may be tho !

wodahs · 06-01-2016, 02:03 PM

and I feel that the people that ......

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Originally Posted by Polyal

I feel for her being put in that situation on TV.

is the reason this storm in a tea cup offended situation arose

XBROO · 06-01-2016, 02:35 PM

Right or wrong, offended or not either way, I think he'll be more tactful next time.

Boosted8 · 06-01-2016, 03:27 PM

I think it's mostly that he called her "baby". That word was out of place and hearing it was the cringiest part for me.

superyob · 06-01-2016, 03:53 PM

Professional reporter??? If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!!!

Or go back to it in this case...

It's not like reporters are shrinking violets wearing 'don't hurt me' badges. They are fair game just like any other section of society, rightly or wrongly subject to any aspect of the human condition...

XBROO · 06-01-2016, 05:13 PM

No matter what occupation you do no one has the right to be little or degrade another human being.

SYZ · 06-01-2016, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by superyob

Professional reporter??? If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!!! Or go back to it in this case...

Oh dear. Sexism at its most blatant. Well done. Not.

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Originally Posted by superyob

It's not like reporters are shrinking violets wearing 'don't hurt me' badges. They are fair game just like any other section of society, rightly or wrongly subject to any aspect of the human condition...

So apparently you're suggesting that someone in a particular workplace—as specified by your good self—should be happily and uncomplainingly subjected to sexual harassment simply based on their profession? Do you believe that waitresses, nurses, cashiers or other females should also accept sleazy come-ons from males who should know better, and whose only manners are dictated by their dicks?

Every individual in their place of work has the right to peer respect, and shouldn't have to worry about coping with sexual innuendo being directed towards them—female or male. As it turns out, Gayle has a past history of harassing females, so he's obviously just treading a well-worn path of arrogance and ignorance.

MITCHAY · 06-01-2016, 05:42 PM

There was nothing wrong with what he said and probably a lot more decent than a lot of other guys could come up with but that was not the time to be saying it. Pretty simple concept.

It's still been made a bigger deal than it should have.

Tonz · 06-01-2016, 05:42 PM

When he was making those comments their was some male giggling in the background, those boys went to ground very quickly when the ****** started to flow.
Why aren't they being sanctioned, they would have to have been CH10 boys/commentators.

b0son · 06-01-2016, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

She shouldnt have to deal with that in the workplace

Journos have no problem humiliating their subjects when it suits them. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

I recall a time when journos were a clever bunch and had the ability and wit to deal with difficult interviewees. Mel gets tongue-tied every time something like this happens, maybe she should stick to presenting.

SYZ · 06-01-2016, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Journos have no problem humiliating their subjects when it suits them...

Could you give us an example of an instance when Mel McLaughlin has resorted to sexual innuendo to embarrass a male interviewee?

superyob · 06-01-2016, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SYZ

Oh dear. Sexism at its most blatant. Well done. Not.

So apparently you're suggesting that someone in a particular workplace—as specified by your good self—should be happily and uncomplainingly subjected to sexual harassment simply based on their profession? Do you believe that waitresses, nurses, cashiers or other females should also accept sleazy come-ons from males who should know better, and whose only manners are dictated by their dicks?

Every individual in their place of work has the right to peer respect, and shouldn't have to worry about coping with sexual innuendo being directed towards them—female or male. As it turns out, Gayle has a past history of harassing females, so he's obviously just treading a well-worn path of arrogance and ignorance.

You 21st century warriors make me laugh. But not because you are funny...

**GasoLane** · 06-01-2016, 07:31 PM

PM for Mr yob