Vegemite - A thing of the past? - Page 2

vztrt · 08-01-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SLO-04L

is it just me or are we moving closer to one of those societies in movies where a governing body controls every aspect of out life where we are told what time how often and what we eat when and what we drink? its disgusting im not a mindless zombie, give us the information and let us make an informed decision about how we live our lives!

Pretty much, but it's a slow process. Start to restrict things, increase taxes/fines, slowly move onto banning things. It has to be done slowly or there is a huge backlash.

Probably go Smokes, then booze, fatty foods, high performance cars, huge restrictions to modifying cars, going out at night, TV/Internet/Radio, contact sports......

Jason[98.EL] · 08-01-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by strike

Look at the alcaholic mixer drinks they put extra tax on they have basically proved it didnt work but it is still there. (ha ha) They, win we loose.

i work in the alcohol industry and did ask my manager what the tax on mixer drinks has done if anything to affect sales .. his answer was people just went to buying bottled spirits so in affect all it did was moved people to mix their own

if the large suppliers get taxed more there will be job losses not just in their manufacturing but all other industries that use their product

Jason

irlewy86 · 08-01-2009, 04:12 PM

Thats why I eat Marmite

bloggs24 · 08-01-2009, 04:24 PM

reading all this has gotten me hungry for vegemite in toast, brb...

vztrt · 08-01-2009, 04:33 PM

Some more to the story.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/op...0108-7ciq.html

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Opposition unhappy little Vegemites over 'tax'

January 8, 2009 - 3:18PM

The federal government must rule out a new tax on Vegemite, not just guarantee its continued presence on supermarket shelves, opposition health spokesman Peter Dutton said.

The Australian Food and Grocery Council, and now the federal opposition, have attacked the Rudd government's preventive health taskforce, challenging its credibility over fat taxes and claiming Vegemite could be forced off the shelves because it is too salty.

Speaking in Brisbane on Wednesday, Mr Dutton said a fat tax on Vegemite would be ludicrous.

"We are calling on the Labor government to rule out this absurdity, to make sure that Australian families won't have to pay a tax on Vegemite," he said.

"They don't need to be served up a menu from the Rudd government about what they need to eat and drink three meals a day.

"This is a government which has gone completely out of control in terms of nanny-state government and they need to make sure they rule out this tax on Vegemite."

Mr Dutton said good information about food was a better answer to the nation's obesity problem than taxing Vegemite, jams or cheeses.

"Australians don't want extra pressure on their budgets because of a new Labor tax on Vegemite."

Earlier on Wednesday, Acting Prime Minister Julia Gillard said the iconic spread was here to stay.

"I am a very happy Vegemite eater and there is no way in the world that Vegemite would be banned in this country," Ms Gillard said.

"Vegemite is part of being Australian, part of our history, part of our future and I'll be continuing to wake up in the morning and having it on my toast."

FGII-XR6 · 08-01-2009, 04:38 PM

i've noticed a few here who hate vegimite , thats grounds for deportation ( or excile for citizens)

on the subject of being owned by an american drug dealer ( tobacco company ) yes it is now but vegemite is an aussie icon and banning it would raise heritage concerns as it is part of our history

**DJM83** · 08-01-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

And colesterol in your arteries!!

As does most other things. Here here love vegimite nothing comes even close to it like that marmite and promite junk

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vztrt · 08-01-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 51RTE

As does most other things. Here here love vegimite nothing comes even close to it like that marmite and promite junk

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Just taking the pi$$.

zigzagnt · 08-01-2009, 07:54 PM

This is one reason i REFUSE ON PRINCIPLE to believe ANY scientific theory why on earth these do-gooders can't shut up and let people get on with their own lives i'll never know.

Nikked · 08-01-2009, 07:55 PM

every day, some expert wants something taxed or banned because a few people misuse it, it's discusting.

MITCHAY · 08-01-2009, 08:41 PM

Fugg me there are so many soft people in this country who don't understand the meaning of moderation. I personally hate the stuff and would lose nothing but I aint going to deny anyone else the pleasure.

Seriously in this day and age people have plenty of information to make decisions as to what they should eat or not.

If they ever banned smokes and beer though.. :(

Bucknaked · 08-01-2009, 08:46 PM

Governments come and go, politicians, policies and all the BS that goes with it. Why can't they leave the important things alone. Vegemite has been around for years, I'd like to see it stay. I'd prefer they shut down KFC, Macca's, Hungry Jacks, Dominos and the pizza hut before getting rid of vegemite. Those places cause more health issues than 1 jar of vegemite. Australia wouldn't be Australia without vegemite.

As they said in the Simpsons "Oi Prime Minister, it's a bloody outrage"

Daymoe · 08-01-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Pretty much, but it's a slow process. Start to restrict things, increase taxes/fines, slowly move onto banning things. It has to be done slowly or there is a huge backlash.

Probably go Smokes, then booze, fatty foods, high performance cars, huge restrictions to modifying cars, going out at night, TV/Internet/Radio, contact sports......

Were coming close to that already, its pretty much imminent.

vztrt · 08-01-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Daymoe

Were coming close to that already, its pretty much imminent.

Actually its falling apart at the moment as only one ISP will trial it and only to show that the filter will slow the net down by 70%. Guess the government didn't scream child porn enough.

The only way to stop this is to make the poli's think they will lose a large amount of votes.

Wally · 08-01-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Fugg me there are so many soft people in this country who don't understand the meaning of moderation. ..... :(

true, I was raised in part by my grandmother and she would have vegemite on buttered bread with her cup of tea every other day. She lived to 99 51/52 years until she fell and busted her hip and died shortly after. Cholestrol didn't take her and she had all her marbles.

Rodp · 08-01-2009, 08:57 PM

The insane part is, if you overlook the sodium content in Vegemite (and unless you eat a jar of it a day, it's still frig all in a balanced diet) it contains some very beneficial ingredients (particularly Vitamin B)

Not many mornings I don't spread some vegemite on a slice of toasted wholegrain bread... and when I went to school I almost exclusively ate 2 vegemite sambos for lunch.

**Jastel** · 08-01-2009, 09:01 PM

Vegemite has salt in it????

Who knew that was why it tastes salty?

Probably cost us a million bucks for that gem of info...

They should ban busybody public servant committees/taskforces that come up with rubbish like this.

We will have to move to China to get some democracy soon.

They are only interested in keeping their jobs, so they make controversial findings so their contract has to be extended.

If they don't produce a product or service that is needed by the country there is no point in them having a job. Paying them the dole to stay home would be cheaper and less annoying to the rest of us.

Idea: - force feed them vegemite until they die then we will know the safe level of vegemite intake, that would be a usefull service...as a bonus one less pen pusher as well.

(that was a joke BTW, but you get the point)

Dezza · 08-01-2009, 09:03 PM

Why don't governments just let us live our own lives without constantly interfering. The only people to blame for obesity are not the companies that make the food. It's the obese person themselves, and in the child's cases, their parents. If you don't want to get fat, don't live on fatty foods. Who decided that the government should dictate what we can and can't eat? Any excuse to increase taxes, the government will welcome with open arms.

ps. Vegemite is awesome. Love the stuff.

Captain Falcon · 08-01-2009, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SLO-04L

is it just me or are we moving closer to one of those societies in movies where a governing body controls every aspect of out life where we are told what time how often and what we eat when and what we drink? its disgusting im not a mindless zombie, give us the information and let us make an informed decision about how we live our lives!

Hmmm Smells like Communism to me....

Dodge · 08-01-2009, 09:48 PM

what else can they tax,i thought the fat tax on aircraft was a good laugh...

**Falcon Coupe** · 08-01-2009, 10:33 PM

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A shadow has been cast over the future of the spread as a Federal Government taskforce considers special taxes and other deterrents on the sale of fatty, sugary and salty foods.

Hypocrites, a tax on Vegemite they say. Sure when there are no fat politicians I'll go with along with that.

ieatsports_cars · 09-01-2009, 12:44 AM

now i know why iam so fat, lol ! i eat spoon full of the stuff even with out spreading it on any thing really that what i do, the people who wants to get vegi off the shelves should grow up and get a real life and eat some vegi and they might actullay enjoy it a bit like smelling petrol fume on a v8 as it is going past you 100 miles an hour it gets you addicted lol

rusty 351 · 09-01-2009, 12:49 AM

before they ban it il stock up a few pallets,

will be worth heaps on the black market!

EgoFG · 09-01-2009, 01:13 AM

Vegemite is a condiment.

Check the fat content of traditional salad dressing.
Check the salt content of 'chicken salt'.
Check the sugar content of the chocolate you sprinkle on your latte.

Condiments tend to be bad if you look at them in isolation - but hey - we do not (well most of us) eat vegemite by itself

xbgs351 · 10-01-2009, 10:52 AM

http://www.preventativehealth.org.au/internet/preventativehealth/publishing.nsf/Content/A06C2FCF439ECDA1CA2574DD0081E40C/$File/discussion-28oct.pdf

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Regulate the amount of trans fats, saturated fat,
salt and sugar content in foods

Here is an a to Z of won't be allowed:

Anchovies
Butter
Cream
Donuts
Eggs
Feta
Ghee
Ham
Icy poles
Jam
Kebabs
Lollies
Mutton
Nachos
Palm oil
Quiche
Roasts
Smoked meats
Tacos
Urda
Vegemite
Won tons
Xylophones
Yeeros
Zinger burger

XR8GRL · 10-01-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

Hypocrites, a tax on Vegemite they say. Sure when there are no fat politicians I'll go with along with that.

Agreed.

Jack91 · 10-01-2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by xbgs351

http://www.preventativehealth.org.au/internet/preventativehealth/publishing.nsf/Content/A06C2FCF439ECDA1CA2574DD0081E40C/$File/discussion-28oct.pdf

Here is an a to Z of won't be allowed:

Anchovies
Butter
Cream
Donuts
Eggs
Feta
Ghee
Ham
Icy poles
Jam
Kebabs
Lollies
Mutton
Nachos
Palm oil
Quiche
Roasts
Smoked meats
Tacos
Urda
Vegemite
Won tons
Xylophones
Yeeros
Zinger burger

So but theyre not actually going to ban it, just tax the hell out of it?

**TUF_302** · 10-01-2009, 02:52 PM

Australia is nothing without Vegemite!!!

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xbgs351 · 10-01-2009, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TUF_302

Australia is nothing without Vegemite!!!

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Who the hell knows? The draft paper says "Regulate the amount of trans fats, saturated fat, salt and sugar content in foods". If they were to do this, everything that I listed would have to be withdrawn from sale.

J_Tank · 10-01-2009, 06:58 PM

AFGC is just scare mongering suggesting these products could be banned. This is an industry body set up by the producers of said products. For years the number one product bought in Australian Supermarkets has been Coca cola. Smiths chips and at least 2-3 tobacco brands feature in the top ten. When you walk into a supermarket have a look at what is displayed at the front of the store between the aisles on the front displays. You can almost guarantee that Coca Cola, Smiths chips, Arnotts biscuits and Cadbury chocolate will be there. All of these displays are paid for by the suppliers and the best locations almost always go to products with high fat/sugar content.