International Olympic Committee considering Transgender athletes to be allowed to compete with other sex - Page 2

marty351 · 06-03-2019, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

Some of the last defenders of Stalingrad when the Germans first approached the city in 1942 were females of the volunteer anti-air batteries. They turned their 37mm flak guns on the approaching German Panzers and fought until the bitter end. This is verifiable fact.

Women have served on the frontlines throughout history. Obviously nowhere near as many as men but there are examples.

....And they drove tanks, and they flew planes... to great effect.
Aunt Flo was the biggest problem.

Junkyard-Dog · 06-03-2019, 07:03 PM

I guess I just find the story of the female Soviet AA crews interesting because the Germans didn't even realise they had been fighting women until they had defeated them and advanced to the Soviet positions to discover the fallen.

There are plenty of Kurdish women fighting Isis right now but this is probably all off topic so I'll stop now.

Adamz Ghia · 06-03-2019, 08:47 PM

I hate the AFL with a passion, the governing body, not the game. But I respect the hell out of them for not allowing Hannah Mouncey to play AFLW. The size of her compared to the other girls was obscene.

Pooka · 06-03-2019, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Adamz Ghia

I hate the AFL with a passion, the governing body, not the game. But I respect the hell out of them for not allowing Hannah Mouncey to play AFLW. The size of her compared to the other girls was obscene.

The "woman" in question.

LOL, love the look on #44's face!

Pretty much sums up what most sane people think about all this gender transition crap.

Junkyard-Dog · 07-03-2019, 01:23 PM

Look at the bone structure... that is ridiculous. The skull on #40 is clearly the skull of an adult male. That's without even mentioning the width of shoulders, etc.

XR6Runner · 16-03-2019, 11:02 AM

They need to have a separate category 'Transgender Olympics', like they have with special olympics. Problem solved

Pis-ton broke · 16-03-2019, 10:30 PM

i don,t agree with allowing trans to compete, its just another way social engineering is weakens our society. but, i did here that testosterone testing might come in.

CoupeKing · 16-03-2019, 11:18 PM

An Alpha male Lion (could be any species)

Dominated the area for ten years, half-blind in one eye, snout and surrounding areas covered in battle scars only to be dethroned by a young-buck that's most likely his great great great great grandson.....limps away and dies within weeks under the shade of a lone tree - he's done his job.

Now imagine a transgender vegan SoyBoy Lion....everything around it gets lazy and becomes weak.

marty351 · 17-03-2019, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CoupeKing

An Alpha male Lion (could be any species)

Dominated the area for ten years, half-blind in one eye, snout and surrounding areas covered in battle scars only to be dethroned by a young-buck that's most likely his great great great great grandson.....limps away and dies within weeks under the shade of a lone tree - he's done his job.

Now imagine a transgender vegan SoyBoy Lion....everything around it gets lazy and becomes weak.

You can't cheat mother nature.

**DJR-351** · 02-05-2019, 09:44 AM

British Olympians slam transgender weightlifter after she breaks four records....

https://wwos.nine.com.au/news/olympi...pic-duo_010519

pottery beige · 03-05-2019, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

British Olympians slam transgender weightlifter after she breaks four records....

https://wwos.nine.com.au/news/olympi...pic-duo_010519

do you lift bro??......

EgoFG · 02-05-2019, 12:33 PM

IMHO: TransGender is a socioemotional situation. (I do not mean this to be dismissive)

Sport should be down to Science, not how the athlete identifies

A test should be developed, and then that rule consistently applied

Whitey-AMG · 02-05-2019, 02:24 PM

Meh...
I dont see an issue. So many other parts of our society are being "equalised" for opportunity so why segregate sport. You wanna compete - go ahead.
Make mixed sports an equal opportunity. Why segregate only when it "suits", and ask for equality when it suits.
Mix it up people ..... and may the best person / man / female / trans / Gender fluid / LGBTQUTRDSETYVWXYZ win !!!

burnz · 02-05-2019, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluey-GT

Meh...
I dont see an issue. So many other parts of our society are being "equalised" for opportunity so why segregate sport. You wanna compete - go ahead.
Make mixed sports an equal opportunity. Why segregate only when it "suits", and ask for equality when it suits.
Mix it up people ..... and may the best person / man / female / trans / Gender fluid / LGBTQUTRDSETYVWXYZ win !!!

so the lady's get equal left's with their right's..

not a fan of this PC crap..

Tickford. · 02-05-2019, 07:45 PM

South African transgender athlete, Caster Semenya, loses right to compete as a female.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/48102479

Hoooray!!!

But this will drag on in the courts until he/she/it/the thing get's it's way.

Work Horse · 02-05-2019, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trickford

South African transgender athlete, Caster Semenya, loses right to compete as a female.

Educate yourself Caster Semenya is not transgender, google intersex!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/you-ca.../LE1817H003S00

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Originally Posted by Trickford

https://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/48102479

Hoooray!!!

But this will drag on in the courts until he/she/it/the thing get's it's way.

Now that you understand intersex and transgender are different things do you understand how offensive your post is, to either group?

b0son · 02-05-2019, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

Now that you understand intersex and transgender are different things do you understand how offensive your post is, to either group?

Can you understand how offensive it must be to a biological female, to have to compete against an intersex or MtF transsexual athlete?

Work Horse · 03-05-2019, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Can you understand how offensive it must be to a biological female, to have to compete against an intersex or MtF transsexual athlete?

No I am not; a biological female, intersex, MtF transsexual(sic) or a snowflake.

Which are you?

Tickford. · 03-05-2019, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

Now that you understand intersex and transgender are different things do you understand how offensive your post is

Sorry, didn't mean to offend you. Which group do you identify yourself as? Transgender or intersex?

Work Horse · 03-05-2019, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Trickford

Sorry, didn't mean to offend you. Which group do you identify yourself as? Transgender or intersex?

Zinger

Tickford. · 03-05-2019, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

Zinger

Guessing by the fact that you didn't answer my question, you don't belong to either groups.

In other words, just another social justice warrior looking for a reason to be offended on behalf of others.

b0son · 03-05-2019, 12:54 AM

Google irony... your reply is dripping in it.

Work Horse · 03-05-2019, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Google irony... your reply is dripping in it.

Google satire.....

I tried logic, pointing out the fact the article in the OP was BS but no one is interested.

So many snowflakes in this thread being triggered by something that; has not happened, they have little understanding of and has zero effect on them.

b0son · 03-05-2019, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

I tried logic

Well, not really. Logic dictates looking at all the available evidence. Even with the IOC further lowering the testosterone limit, 1 year of hormone lowering is insufficient. Research shows significant musculature advantages remain for even 3 years post-hormone lowering treatment.

And the hypocrisy is that when the IAAF first introduced testosterone limits for intersex/trans athletes, the CAS overturned their decision arguing the IAAF had insufficient scientific basis to do so. But the IOC, in allowing intersex/trans athletes, relied on virtually no science, and instead pushed it through on human rights grounds.

AFAIK, competing in sport professionally is not a human right.

Work Horse · 03-05-2019, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by b0son

Well, not really. Logic dictates looking at all the available evidence. Even with the IOC further lowering the testosterone limit, 1 year of hormone lowering is insufficient. Research shows significant musculature advantages remain for even 3 years post-hormone lowering treatment.

And the hypocrisy is that when the IAAF first introduced testosterone limits for intersex/trans athletes, the CAS overturned their decision arguing the IAAF had insufficient scientific basis to do so. But the IOC, in allowing intersex/trans athletes, relied on virtually no science, and instead pushed it through on human rights grounds.

AFAIK, competing in sport professionally is not a human right.

Does your evidence run to the long list of transgender athletes about to descend on the next Olympics and steal all the medals?

Just the top ten maybe?

Can you name one?......

b0son · 03-05-2019, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

Does your evidence run to the long list of transgender athletes about to descend on the next Olympics and steal all the medals?

Why should it? Do you normally wait for something bad to happen before you consider precautions?

five 7 · 15-05-2019, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Work Horse

Does your evidence run to the long list of transgender athletes about to descend on the next Olympics and steal all the medals?

Just the top ten maybe?

Can you name one?......

https://youtu.be/NcjJwha_CMk
Maybe not Olympics but Commonwealth games, must be natures way of
saying no..

Junkyard-Dog · 03-05-2019, 12:43 PM

I notice you don't get too many sheilas "transitioning" into blokes and trying their hand at male sports.

Yellow_Festiva · 03-05-2019, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkyard-Dog

I notice you don't get too many sheilas "transitioning" into blokes and trying their hand at male sports.

Then they would be a natural disadvantage. Oh, hang on a sec....

Tickford. · 28-08-2019, 07:23 PM

In Victoria, you can now be classified as female even though you have full male genitals!!

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Transgender and gender-diverse people in Victoria will be able to change the sex on their birth certificate without having to undergo gender reassignment surgery, after reforms were passed in parliament overnight.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...28-p52leu.html

I think I may change my birth certificate to female, then go into female toilets. Maybe even shower/walk around nude at the local swim centre changerooms.