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Old 20-11-2006, 08:23 PM   #31
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I dont have pics of my ute but this is pics of another members ute (hope you dont mind champ im too lazy to go take a photo). Mine is pretty much 100% the same as this. Both are EGAS

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Old 20-11-2006, 09:00 PM   #32
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those pacemakers will deffinately fit, that gas converter is the same as the egas modles just a few different hoses coming off them.. i have an egas model and im telling you now that they will fit.

oh yeah,. and those pictures that kenz posted.... they are of my ute!!
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Old 20-11-2006, 09:47 PM   #33
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those pacemakers will deffinately fit, that gas converter is the same as the egas modles just a few different hoses coming off them.. i have an egas model and im telling you now that they will fit.

oh yeah,. and those pictures that kenz posted.... they are of my ute!!
Are both pics of the same vehicle. The top of the extractors are blue, the bottom are black! Is that correct, or am I just 3 of the 10 men who are colour blind? LOL!

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Old 20-11-2006, 09:49 PM   #34
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guys!! WHO fitted them then? I need to pay them a visit...
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Old 20-11-2006, 09:50 PM   #35
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Also...

Being that close to the gas gear, even with the sheild, wouldnt heat be a big problem ??
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Old 20-11-2006, 09:53 PM   #36
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Hi All,

Bought some pacemakers for my AU2, turns out they wont fit because of the gas gear! Real bugger...

Anyway, they obviously havent been used, ao as new. Asking $350, I am in Melbourne.

Any takers?
You need to alter the converter position a little and it shouldn't cost much as its only a few inches . ( you might need to move the water bottle a little as well.
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Are both pics of the same vehicle. The top of the extractors are blue, the bottom are black! Is that correct, or am I just 3 of the 10 men who are colour blind? LOL!

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Yes they are both pics from Baboon_AU's ute I was too lazy to go take a pic of mine :hihi: I got mine installed last month and mine are still all blue its probably just the lighting GK

Auuteage have you tried a specialist exhaust centre rather than Midas cause im sure they would be able to do it, your pics look like there is the same amount of room as the EGAS. The heat wont affect the converter and the heatshield was moulded over the paccies to protect the few wires in that area from melting
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Old 20-11-2006, 11:26 PM   #38
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man,i have never realy paid much attention to the gas set ups before .but my mechanic runs a ef fairmont on gas. i know ef and au are different cars but the convertor he runs on his would be half the size of the one in the pics above. being they are all 4l's do they all run the same gas convertors?
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Old 21-11-2006, 08:31 AM   #39
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I dont have pics of my ute but this is pics of another members ute (hope you dont mind champ im too lazy to go take a photo). Mine is pretty much 100% the same as this. Both are EGAS


Mine looks exactly like that ... I thought mine wouldn't fit ... but once you take the shield and headers off and put the new ones on ... they fit nicely. I think i have slightly more room that the pic above .... but not much.

As long as the shield is in place (and modified to suit) .... it's all good.

And if you fee like relocating your converter ... get a bracket made up to move it towards the front of the car by a couple of inches ... that's enough to clear the pipe coming out from number 3 exhaust port.
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man,i have never realy paid much attention to the gas set ups before .but my mechanic runs a ef fairmont on gas. i know ef and au are different cars but the convertor he runs on his would be half the size of the one in the pics above. being they are all 4l's do they all run the same gas convertors?

Depends if his converter is an aftermarket one ... I am sure all the Ford kits use Vialle units (complex converter I think it is) ... that's from the E-series onwards.

I have seen Impco/Airod ad other units that are much smaller ... but have a larger mixer included in the kit.
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well in the interests of comparison here are ph4499's on mine which it a straight petrol model
just to give a rough idea of how far they stick out

**edit: looking at that i don't think they are gonna have any hope of fitting...

If you look at this pic .. you can see the mounting points on the strut tower where the bracket is mounted .... the converter sits just in front of where No.3 pipe comes out ... it's hard to show in this picture, but the No. 3 pipe angles back slightly ... it doesn't come straight out from the engine.

Hope this helps ... I need to take some decent pics ... but I just haven't had time to.
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Old 21-11-2006, 09:55 PM   #42
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hey GK, after time your extractors loose their colour because of heat. once you first put them on, at the traffic lights, smoke comes out from under the bonnet and wheel arches and people look and point at your funny but its just the paint burning off.

AND.... heat is not a problem to the gas gear.. your gas converter works off your HOT coolant to change your the liquid to a gas so extractors will actually help your gas converter if anything.
sometimes i leave my heatsheild off but now i mostly leave it on because its painted black now.

hope this solves some issues
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^^lol, well when i put mine on i never got any smoke coming out...it did stink like anything tho, which is probably also contributed to by the stickers on the rest of the exhaust
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Old 22-11-2006, 12:40 AM   #44
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hey GK, after time your extractors loose their colour because of heat. once you first put them on, at the traffic lights, smoke comes out from under the bonnet and wheel arches and people look and point at your funny but its just the paint burning off.

hope this solves some issues
I'm still as curious, check the pics, the top of the headers is blue the bottom black. See what I mean? LOL!

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Can anyone recommend who would be good at fitting the pacemakers while maybe shifting the converter a coupla inches ??
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You need to get a metal PCV (Pollution Control Valve), it's the plastic bit that's in the rocker cover, directly to the right of the oil filler cap.

In a backfire, the bottom of these plastic bits can be blown into the valve gear of cylinder #2.

Replace it with a metal one, $10 from Ford, less than 1 minute to replace, great and cheap insurance IMO!

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Actually its called a PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) Valve :, and agreed $10 at Ford is good insurance for dual fuel cars, with a higher risk of backfire
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Old 22-11-2006, 03:30 PM   #47
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Still for sale $350, if any takers out there in Melbourne.....


Making them fit , after ringing around, is not going to be worth the hassle....
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Actually its called a PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) Valve :, and agreed $10 at Ford is good insurance for dual fuel cars, with a higher risk of backfire
No worries, thanks for that correction.

Maybe I'll just stick to calling it the PCV valve! LOL!

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Old 22-11-2006, 03:54 PM   #49
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I got the 4480's to fit with dual fuel...
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how ?? The 4499s just wont fit, and the whole converter moving thing sends gas places running. Anyway, think Ill sell em, too much trouble :0)
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I told the gas mob I use to move it forward and down.

They asked why and I said to them that I was getting aftermarket headers put on and that the number 3&4 pipes would hit the converter and that it had to be done before I took it to the exhaust shop (which was that weekend).

Initially they were going to say no until I told them I had already booked the exhaust in for that weekend. They moved it and told me to bring it back to them so they could check it out once the exhaust was on and put the old heatshield back over the converter.
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Auuteage mate,, dont sell them.. trust me.. they will fit fine. dont worry about moving the converter there is no need. just go to a performance exhuast shop not midas and get them fitted.

oh yeah and GK.. they are a little faded but not black.... its mainly just the lighting.. they are pretty much the same as the top. and those photos were taken the week i got them.

and bodesh. i got the smoke coming out because the first time it was started after fitting the headers was when i jumped in it to drive home.. the smoke lasted about 10 k's
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Auuteage mate,, dont sell them.. trust me.. they will fit fine. dont worry about moving the converter there is no need. just go to a performance exhuast shop not midas and get them fitted.

oh yeah and GK.. they are a little faded but not black.... its mainly just the lighting.. they are pretty much the same as the top. and those photos were taken the week i got them.

and bodesh. i got the smoke coming out because the first time it was started after fitting the headers was when i jumped in it to drive home.. the smoke lasted about 10 k's
yeah i know what you meant, i got that after i put the cat back on, and a bit off the extractors but only once i got home, mainly cause i didn't have any traffic lights between where i got it done and home...had to take it to an exhaust shop to get the cat put on cause i didn't have enough pipe
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Ok, Ill check out some exhaust places tomorrow to make sure. Mine isnt a EGAS set up though, so probably different to yours hence the no fit. Did you see the photos of my engine bay earlier in the thread baboon ??
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^^yeah he would have...the actual convertors look exactly the same, although yours seems to have it's own heat shield attached to the front of it...if you remove that, as long as it's ok to be removed, they will fit
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^^yeah he would have...the actual convertors look exactly the same, although yours seems to have it's own heat shield attached to the front of it...if you remove that, as long as it's ok to be removed, they will fit
Thanks bodes-sh. But the heat shield wouldnt be there if it didnt need to be would it ? Hmmm, sounds frought with danger :0)

I just dont know. Cant decide if I should do it or not. I need more punchy acceleration carrying such heavy loads in my ute. Id hate to go to the trouble and get very little difference. Even though Im not expecting miracles !
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EGAS Falcons didn't come with a heatshield on the converter (min didn't) ... but you could get them from Boral if you needed.
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Looked into a bit further today, just not worth the extra $$ to move the converter. And there arent many willing to do it either.

So, who wants em? $350.....
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EGAS Falcons didn't come with a heatshield on the converter (min didn't) ... but you could get them from Boral if you needed.
My converter doesnt have a heat sheild either...
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Looked into a bit further today, just not worth the extra $$ to move the converter. And there arent many willing to do it either.

So, who wants em? $350.....
Do you have these in the sales section as they will fit E-series aswell as AU
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