Consonant or Constanant - Page 2

Spitfire 6.2 · 15-07-2009, 09:04 AM

What about the use of such gems as VIN Number and ATM Machine, but thats a whole other thread.

ltd · 15-07-2009, 09:15 AM

Absolutely some of my pet hates include the misuse of punctuation, capitalisation, bad spelling and poor grammar (most idiots think that grammar is the old lady in the front room watching TV).
There is no such word as constanant; although the urban dictionary may refute this.
Your wife is correct it is consonant.

Equally as bad though, is the now common misspelling of loose and lose i.e. people calling others a looser or, "that bolt is lose".
Another example is the confusion surrounding you, your, you're. People constantly get this wrong with phrases such as "your an idiot" instead of the correct "you're an idiot".
Lastly, "there, their, they're seems to incite a lot of stupidity too. The way I remind people of this is simple; there is a place, their can mean they is (hence the I), they're means they are.
Alarmingly enough though, it seems to be the vast majority who get these wrong constantly and from someone I know who is a teacher, it is not difficult to see why. Honestly, we have some of the most illiterate morons going into teaching jobs and it's not difficult to see why our kids are suffering.

RANT OFF

Cobra · 15-07-2009, 10:40 AM

To the thread starter, ask your wife (from South Australia) how she says 'cool'. Unless she actually pronounces it conciously, she will pronounce it with a silent 'L'. It will come out sounding like coow, or something an owl would say with a c in front of it. That's just one exa(r)mple of some of the linguistic idiosycracies I've picked up since moving over from Victoria to SA 4 and a half years ago.

gcg2503 · 15-07-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ltd

Absolutely some of my pet hates include the misuse of punctuation, capitalisation, bad spelling and poor grammar (most idiots think that grammar is the old lady in the front room watching TV).
There is no such word as constanant; although the urban dictionary may refute this.
Your wife is correct it is consonant.

Equally as bad though, is the now common misspelling of loose and lose i.e. people calling others a looser or, "that bolt is lose".
Another example is the confusion surrounding you, your, you're. People constantly get this wrong with phrases such as "your an idiot" instead of the correct "you're an idiot".
Lastly, "there, their, they're seems to incite a lot of stupidity too. The way I remind people of this is simple; there is a place, their can mean they is (hence the I), they're means they are.
Alarmingly enough though, it seems to be the vast majority who get these wrong constantly and from someone I know who is a teacher, it is not difficult to see why. Honestly, we have some of the most illiterate morons going into teaching jobs and it's not difficult to see why our kids are suffering.

RANT OFF

100% Ltd - couldn't agree with you more.

JG66ME · 15-07-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

Absolutely some of my pet hates include the misuse of punctuation, capitalisation, bad spelling and poor grammar (most idiots think that grammar is the old lady in the front room watching TV).
There is no such word as constanant; although the urban dictionary may refute this.
Your wife is correct it is consonant.

Equally as bad though, is the now common misspelling of loose and lose i.e. people calling others a looser or, "that bolt is lose".
Another example is the confusion surrounding you, your, you're. People constantly get this wrong with phrases such as "your an idiot" instead of the correct "you're an idiot".
Lastly, "there, their, they're seems to incite a lot of stupidity too. The way I remind people of this is simple; there is a place, their can mean they is (hence the I), they're means they are.
Alarmingly enough though, it seems to be the vast majority who get these wrong constantly and from someone I know who is a teacher, it is not difficult to see why. Honestly, we have some of the most illiterate morons going into teaching jobs and it's not difficult to see why our kids are suffering.

RANT OFF

Don't turn the rant off, I agree 100%.

And what about double negatives? "I don't know nothing!" or more correctly, i dunt no nothink.

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4Vman · 15-07-2009, 01:02 PM

"yous are stupid" "i don't now anything" "who no's what's wrong"...

ltd · 15-07-2009, 05:01 PM

gcg2503 and JG66ME, I knew there were (notice the lack of an H people; just as there is a place so is where) others like myself whom suffer daily at the degradation of our literary skills.

Not only do a blame teachers, but I also blame the PC intelligentsia for their strong stance against standardised testing, mobile phones for the pseudo language of abbreviations created, the interweb (sic) and other instruments that serve to distract the young from actually picking up a good book and reading.

For the same reason that using a mobile phone whilst driving creates a distraction from the task at hand, our youth should be reminded of the benefits of total concentration for their own development, creativity and perspective.

Now, instead of artists being creative enough to actually produce something beautiful making news headlines; we have artists challenging one another for the most vile, repugnant and offensive material possible - such as taking nude pictures of a 10 year old, or someone urinating on a crucifix. Real progression there.

It's actually part of the reason behind my new signature, to demonstrate to the grammatically challenged how a little literary faux par can corrupt a message.
Suddenly I'm reminded of the perennial blond in the office who left a message on a fax machine alerting others of a jam that said "PEN IS STUCK".

4V, thanks for the laugh mate.

Rodp · 15-07-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

It's actually part of the reason behind my new signature, to demonstrate to the grammatically challenged how a little literary faux par can corrupt a message.

Faux pas.

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TX3VIL · 15-07-2009, 05:38 PM

I blame americans. I dont have a reason for it, i just don't like them.

ltd · 15-07-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

Faux pas.

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Well, I was going to call you a spellcheck nazi but since I have prattled on about spelling and grammar, I've decided it's best for me to ride over to the ladder so as to get off this particularly high horse (not the one I had to help uncle Jack get off). If you need me I'll be the one with the egg on my face, hiding in my little corner.

ltd · 15-07-2009, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TX3VIL

I blame americans. I dont have a reason for it, i just don't like them.

Watch 30 minutes of Jerry Springer and you'll find that reason as did I.

TX3VIL · 15-07-2009, 05:57 PM

I don't think i've ever lasted the entire 30 minutes. Well done.

JG66ME · 15-07-2009, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ltd

Watch 30 minutes of Jerry Springer and you'll find that reason as did I.

He was born in London though, lol. Oops, I mean laugh out loud.

**PHATAL** · 15-07-2009, 08:31 PM

Z = zed or Zee ?

JACK250 · 15-07-2009, 09:01 PM

I hate people pronouncing H as 'haitch'. I have argued this with a lot of well educated people who think it's pronounced like that. The spelling of the word it aitch, so why would you?

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Fled74 · 15-07-2009, 09:21 PM

I'm a spelling and grammar nazi myself - I'm a Filipino who moved to Aus 6 years ago, and I was shocked to find that my spelling and grammar were better than some of my Aussie workmates (I read a lot of books, so that might have had something to do with it).
I had an American accent when I first arrived, but if you hear me talk now you'd think you were talking to a skip.

I still say "Zee" instead of "zed" and "aitch" instead of "haitch", but I'm working on that.

Cobra · 15-07-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PHATAL

Z = zed or Zee ?

It's definitely ZED not ZEE unless you're reffering to the band then it's ZEE x 2 + top.

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Iggypoppin' · 15-07-2009, 09:31 PM

just quickly, who(as in which state) pronounces cool as "kewl". As well what annoys me is people who call me a "looser", as that word doesn't represent what i'm being called. And for the record, I'm an Iphone user, so sometimes I may not put words/punctuation in. My apologies in advance for this, as I type 99% of my posts on here on by iPhone. Cheers!!

XW_GS · 15-07-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cobra

To the thread starter, ask your wife (from South Australia) how she says 'cool'. Unless she actually pronounces it conciously, she will pronounce it with a silent 'L'. It will come out sounding like coow, or something an owl would say with a c in front of it. That's just one exa(r)mple of some of the linguistic idiosycracies I've picked up since moving over from Victoria to SA 4 and a half years ago.

Cobra she has been here for 18 years now but she said cool ok but i found it strange when she said Ball it sounded like Bull as in Bool but you are right i have noticed it more with the younger Adelaidian folk i chuckle when my nieces speak.... also when they throw 3 likes in a 5 word sentence haha!!

Cobra · 16-07-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by NJXR6

just quickly, who(as in which state) pronounces cool as "kewl". As well what annoys me is people who call me a "looser", as that word doesn't represent what i'm being called. And for the record, I'm an Iphone user, so sometimes I may not put words/punctuation in. My apologies in advance for this, as I type 99% of my posts on here on by iPhone. Cheers!!

That would be NSW. Skewl, Pewl, or... this ones a pearler... XR6 Turbos like to Spewl!!! LOL!!! Sorry...

JACK250 · 16-07-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fled74

"aitch" instead of "haitch", but I'm working on that.

No aitch is the correct one ;)

platinumXR · 16-07-2009, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TX3VIL

I blame americans. I dont have a reason for it, i just don't like them.

Like 'jail' instead of 'gaol'?

Rodp · 16-07-2009, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JACK250

No aitch is the correct one ;)

No aitch is the correct one?!?

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falzoony · 16-07-2009, 09:38 PM

Changing the subject from the alphabet to numeric, I get annoyed when people say 'Oh' instead of zero when giving you a phone number. 'Oh' = letter, Zero = number.

xtremerus · 16-07-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by falzoony

Changing the subject from the alphabet to numeric, I get annoyed when people say 'Oh' instead of zero when giving you a phone number. 'Oh' = letter, Zero = number.

I do that, AND I know its wrong

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JG66ME · 16-07-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by falzoony

Changing the subject from the alphabet to numeric, I get annoyed when people say 'Oh' instead of zero when giving you a phone number. 'Oh' = letter, Zero = number.

Yes, me. "Oh" os a letter, zero is a number.

I also hate it when people say "repeat". Should be "Say Again".

You need to have had a bolocking on radio course in the army to understand.

Also hate "double" whatever.

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Seven double five eight oh, AARRRRGGHH

Seven five five eight zero.

Rodp · 16-07-2009, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by falzoony

Changing the subject from the alphabet to numeric, I get annoyed when people say 'Oh' instead of zero when giving you a phone number. 'Oh' = letter, Zero = number.

The emergency services number I've largely heard it being referred to as triple oh (and certainly not oh oh oh or zero zero zero to the post likely just above this one) :P

Work Horse · 16-07-2009, 11:50 PM

My old uncle is a very learned man. He is a specialist doctor, now semi retired. He was complaining to my wife, (Primary School Teacher), about the falling standards in spelling and grammar. He blamed the fact that Latin was no longer taught in our schools, no body understood the history of our language no wonder we couldn't spell.

I remember taking a sight seeing tour around London, our guide was from Stratford-Upon-Avon. He proudly told us he spoken with the same accent as Shakespeare, so when he spoke we were hearing English spoken the way it was supposed to be spoken. It's not such a long bow, it is the English language we speak in Australia after all. The problem with that is I spent eight years in the UK and you only have to move a few kilometers and they all speak the same language differently! I reckon they would pi$$ themselves about a bunch of Australians arguing over their language.

Language is evolving contently, what was correct when I went to school was out of date as soon as I left. I hate text spelling as much as anyone over 21, but I bet it will be taught in schools the more people use it.

JG66ME · 16-07-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodp

The emergency services number I've largely heard it being referred to as triple oh (and certainly not oh oh oh or zero zero zero to the post likely just above this one) :P

zero zero zero, I say again, zero zero zero, over.

montyv8 · 17-07-2009, 01:19 AM

hands up, how many of you checked your spelling before clicking 'submit'?

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Yes, it is sad how standards have fallen over the years. Don't I sound old.. I'm only 33..
I'll happily admit that I occasionally throw a 'tho' or thru' in my posts, but for the most part I try to put a bit of effort in with my spelling and punctuation.
I always have a chuckle when I see a long post with no punctuation whatsoever, I can imagine the user holding his breath whilst typing away...

Things that annoy me to do with this topic? (besides being excessively pedantic about it, not that anyone here has yet), 'govament', envirament', and people typing their whole post normally (ie. no text style words), but using 'u' instead of 'you'.

My phone number has 44 and 99 in it.. I always say double four, double nine.. oh and there's an oh or two in there also :hihi: