It's OFFICIAL:- Walkinshaw $50,000 Holden Cruze is SLOW - Page 2

Ben73 · 03-09-2012, 08:33 PM

Sounds like a terrible car. Even if it can get to 100 on 6.6. Is it really worth 50k. Does it have anything else going for it other then more power.

Pub247 · 03-09-2012, 08:52 PM

I suppose that's what happen when you get HPF to modify your car... you get a dyno queen not a fast car

HULK EF · 03-09-2012, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by malazn mafia

Cruize Walkingslow.

Cruize Walkinfaster...

SteveJH · 03-09-2012, 11:29 PM

The Walkinshaw Cruze isnt make by Walkinshaw, an article I read said it was done by Horsepower Factory in Melbourne.

Neale · 03-09-2012, 11:36 PM

well the car is called a "cruise" not a "fast". At the end of the day its just a $50,000 daewoo

MethodX · 04-09-2012, 12:18 AM

At least they are trying. ok not a great first effort.
And its not a Golf or Renault. Thats a plus.

pottery beige · 04-09-2012, 12:24 AM

make the power.. shift the weight.. its either not making that power or got some serious torque tags holding it back from blowing its gearbag all over the road...

calais · 04-09-2012, 12:36 AM

The devils in the detail.

First things first, most of these so called 'journo's' cant drive worth a damn. Thats been proven over and over. Especially in drive.com.au's case.

Second, even if this cruze is making 180kw, the 80-120 overtaking time will prove it beyond any doubt, wheres that in the test data?

Third, its a holden cruze....... who would pay 50k for a clearly hastily slapped together kit. The motor is only 1.4L to start with, so drivability would always be compromised trying to boost it.

For 50k, I'd be hunting down an RS Focus and blowing the doors of pretenders everywhere.

mik · 04-09-2012, 01:06 AM

i`d rather have a Falcon ECO BOOST !

Terror_Tree · 04-09-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mik

i`d rather have a Falcon ECO BOOST !

at 6.74 seconds 0-100 kmh the "Eco Boost" Falcon is a much better performance car

http://www.caradvice.com.au/169637/f...oboost-review/

bingoTE50 · 04-09-2012, 09:10 AM

They race these things in the BTCC , what set up do they have over in the old dart ?

flappist · 04-09-2012, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by calais

The devils in the detail.

First things first, most of these so called 'journo's' cant drive worth a damn. Thats been proven over and over. Especially in drive.com.au's case.

They can, however, drive far better than almost all of the members of AFF.

Delusions of adequacy in the field of driving capability is not restricted to professional journalists.

This too has been demonstrated many times.......

ELmoim · 04-09-2012, 10:25 AM

I still think the name alone will sell these cars even though there are a lot better cars available on the market for a better price

Windsor220 · 04-09-2012, 10:27 AM

I think I would wait until another is tested. Definitely not right. 3 seconds from its claimed time is huge.

EDManual · 04-09-2012, 11:04 AM

Thats hilarius!

My 2007 Elantra (Manual) does the 100 in the 8's! 2.0 litre NA.

Bossxr8 · 04-09-2012, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveJH

The Walkinshaw Cruze isnt make by Walkinshaw, an article I read said it was done by Horsepower Factory in Melbourne.

Walkinshaw got HPF to develop the upgrades. Its then sold under the Walkinshaw Performance banner.

Bossxr8 · 04-09-2012, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bingoTE50

They race these things in the BTCC , what set up do they have over in the old dart ?

Those engines are naturally aspirated 2 litres aren't they. They definately don't use turbos.

Kesh · 04-09-2012, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Those engines are naturally aspirated 2 litres aren't they. They definately don't use turbos.

Not sure if this is right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Ge...on_Touring_Car

2L Turbocharged with DI

Fiesta_Man69 · 04-09-2012, 07:09 PM

There are turbos and na in the BTCC. Honda and Ford are def turbo, not sure bout the cruze.

Nikked · 04-09-2012, 07:16 PM

Only 2l turbos in the BTCC now, Cruze isn't in the BTCC now...

However, the cruze uses a 1.6 Turbo in the WTCC.

Bossxr8 · 04-09-2012, 07:16 PM

Must have changed in the last few years then, they never used to allow turbos.

Nikked · 04-09-2012, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Must have changed in the last few years then, they never used to allow turbos.

As of 2011 they wen't through a change like the V8 supercars are, with restrictions on body shape and size, catagory engines (unless the manfacturer can build one) etc...

calais · 04-09-2012, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

They can, however, drive far better than almost all of the members of AFF.

Delusions of adequacy in the field of driving capability is not restricted to professional journalists.

This too has been demonstrated many times.......

No argument there...... none at all.

Ezz · 05-09-2012, 12:24 AM

I read about this. But it makes sense really... Holden bet on Holden fans buying it as they wont ask questions or read the fine print.

It's got Wilki all over it so they buy buy buy, that what Holden bet on.

**DFB FGXR6** · 05-09-2012, 09:04 AM

Holden have nothing to do with the car though. Its a aftermarket special.

Wise · 05-09-2012, 09:27 AM

Sad thing is despite all the test info and reviews saying its sloppy people still won't care and go and buy it anyway. Theres always that corner of the market that walk in and say "I'm looking for a car thats fast and I have $X to spend" and will be fed this thing.

Others will get it for the **** factor and others just cuz it has the walki stuff on it.

Despite how much value for money they would get on an 86 and how much better it would be to drive they'll get this thing and think they're special

aussie muscle · 05-09-2012, 09:55 AM

It's a Holden... it's sells itself. adding Walkingshaw badges will only make it more desirable

Vesper Martini · 05-09-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

This smells.

I suspect there may have been a problem with the Cruise.
I would wait until there is another independent test on a different vehicle.

Your right they are really bad figures, not that im a walkinshaw fan but it really hurts thier image so why would they release it?

Quicksand · 05-09-2012, 02:38 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

And yet it will sell twice as many Falcons.

Quicksand · 05-09-2012, 02:45 PM

I dont know why people rely so heavily on times recorded by a professional driver on a professional sticky race track etc.

For me, i want something relevant, so i dont really care whether Drive etc are good drivers or not. They need to delineate the performance an average Joe can get on an average road in average conditions.

Professional drag times have their place, but not in 99% of real world situations. It's definitely good to see what a car can do under 'perfect' situations. However as far as i'm concerned Drivel and the others can continue testing with passengers, no stalling, with standard rubber and on standard road surfaces with average journalist drivers. At least it has some relevance.

I would also like to see 80-120km/h tests to see overtaking capability.