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Votes (FACT 1): Trump - 71,430,825 Biden - 76,327,446 that is a difference of 4,896,621 in favour of Biden (raw votes - NO MSM interference) Litigation (FACT 2) Quote:
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another FACT, there has been proven to be Russian interference in the 2016 election - what say you now? Trump has no evidence of anything untoward this election, all he is doing is turning American against American, he is putting down the very establishment that saw him elected in 2016 Bob Carr made a reference to the similarities to Hitler in the 1920's - he played a similar game to what Trump is doing now and that worked out well for him And answer my question about the ballot papers - why is one result off the ballot paper fraud (against Republicans) but the other result is fine (for Republicans). They use one ballot paper for all voting
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![]() ![]() Go Trev, you can't get me I'm part of the Union.
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Just because you don't agree with Carr or Turnbull doesn't mean their rhetoric is wrong. ![]() Now you are starting to act like an American, you can't disprove my statements so you make a personal slur - well done, you should be proud of yourself and the big Don will be proud of you too and will give you a big thumbs up (on his way out the door), you have joined his rhetoric
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me either, in fact both sides are **** at putting up reasonable candidates. The Republicans hated Trump until it was obvious he might just win in 2016. The Clintons are as dodgy as ****
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That’s the way the media might have made it seem. Sure, some establishment GOP politicians were that way, but Trump gathered support from independents and what are now called “Classic Liberals” and libertarians during the primaries, and gained momentum without the traditional conservatives. Originally I was for Marco Rubio, though I wasn’t against Trump. I thought the GOP was lucky to have many great candidates. The media would have knocked anyone who wasn’t a Democrat, and they did. They even criticized Dr. Ben Carson. The guy is a freaking squeaky clean genius, but they still had to tear into him. Where was all the “anti racism” rhetoric then? People like Glenn Beck and Ben Shapiro didn’t support Trump until after the 2016 election. As the Democrat party shifted further left and became more in support of socialism, classic liberals shifted toward the Republican Party. It sucks having to call them Classic liberals, because leftists have nothing to do with true liberalism, though they have hijacked the label.
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FACT !!!!!!!!!!!! Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito on Friday ordered election officials across Pennsylvania to segregate mail-in ballots received after Election Day.
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![]() I have no care you wins power over there or anywhere else for that matter but here, I care when seeing people like you stand on one side of the fence as if there is no wrong doing but the other. Trump is a goose but thats not to say the other isn't either, whats important is the party or team, blue red black white and its content, most times there is for and against from both sides. Your just like the media going after an idiot who expose's himself with ease, such a easy target shows the intelliegence at hand or more so the same rhetoric behaviour ![]() ![]() By the way, I hardly recall much right from carr/turnball I'll rest there.
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@anto, he subtly distinguished it from “Russian collusion” by using the new term “Russian interference.” The only minor difference is the latter doesn’t implicate Trump’s involvement in any conspiracy. Now they only have to prove that someone In Russia had an opinion, and it’s all Trump’s fault. Meanwhile, Twitter and Facebook and pretty much all of corporate media are allowed to suppress stories about Hunter Biden and kickbacks to his father, even with receipts and the testimonies of the computer store and Hunter’s ex business partner. Nope, nothing to see there folks. Reality is whatever the media tells us it is.
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how long before biden starts another war??? in the middle east..
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Hey Everyone
The election has been held and won by the democrats. The thread topic is actually now done and dusted, however, I understand that people would like to talk about the result. Despite being a political thread, we have let it run as people were being reasonable in their posting styles. It appears though, this has not been the case in the last day or so. Either keep it on topic and be civil to each other or the usual suspects are going to back the moderators into a corner and have to close the thread. |
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It actually hasn’t been won by the democrats, no official final result for the presidential election has been made public. |
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If the thread continues in the same manner as it has in the last day or so, it will be closed before a result is made official. |
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How do you make a Republican angry? Tell them lies
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I do find it amazing, and perhaps a little bit scary, how people in Australia get so worked up about the American electoral process. Care so much about the ego's and what they stand for like it in some way effects them directly and its their own vote that has been put in doubt...
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And then go on like they are experts in the field, oh that and CV19 vaccine molecular composition technicians as well....I see a link between them and fanatical Labour and/or One Nation/Palmer Supporters
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You know, one of the strongest reasons Trump resonates with people is they are are sick of others thinking they are superior and looking down at them as fools. Look it up, its a well described phenomenon. Now look how your posts look....Condescending much? The social issues/politics/cultural wars in the American election are not unique and similar debates occur in Australia. The importance of the USA to Australian security (do you remember that we fall under there nuclear banner?) means that the US election and foreign policy direction is critical to us, not only for security but also trade.
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you could quote both sides of the ocean "we are strategic partners", "we are best friends", "we are part of ANZUS (without NZ)" etc, etc, etc
whether some here like it or not the USA directly impacts on us - did you forget old mate Trumps inclusion of us in his tariffs? We should care in Australia what America does, it directly impacts us, how many US bases and military people are in Australia right now? If you don't think that their election directly impacts on us then you have your head in the sand
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![]() I am not a fan of: * enforced (COVID-19) vaccines (Liberal idea) * Clive Palmer * The Greens * Pauline Hanson I do however lean towards Labor's policies, because I care about ALL Australians not just the top end of town, although I do acknowledge when the Liberals get it right with social policies (which aren't that many, but there are some)
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Healthcare (eg: our Medicare) Unemployment benefits (eg: our Centrelink) Public Housing (eg: Ministry of housing systems) Subsidised Prescription medication. Fair tax for low wage earners. Etc ... This apparently is “Communism” or “Radical Socialism” 😉 Ref: Australia, UK, France, Germany, Canada, etc I say good luck to them, I like our Social systems here in Australia. |
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We need to move on from liberal = business minded and does care about people and Labour = basically a union movement...both extremes are not true. I am not stupid enough to suggest international affairs do not effect us, of course they do, but the level of interest and detail some get into regarding American politics is perplexing when they probably haven't even stepped foot in the country. Their "knowledge" of their systems and beliefs is in some cases (perceived) to be greater than our own at times! Also thankful for what we have, no system is perfect and you need a country to have a couple of healthy parties. But the antics internally of recent years makes it hard to be enthusiastic about domestic politics. Imagine if we have someone with a bit of charisma and brains..what a combo. Unfortunately it seems the system makes a goof out of otherwise intelligent people.
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As I stated I am a member of a US drag racing forum, they are mostly Trump supporters and the language around supporting those less fortunate is extraordinary. There is just no tolerance among them for supporting anyone other than themselves. I can't type here what they actually say as the auto-censor kicks in, but the lack of empathy is extreme
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What makes them goofy is that are forced to follow Party lines, if we followed the true intent of our Constitution then there would be no Parties, that would make a whole lot of difference for sure, people would debate and vote on either what their heart says or what their constituents want Interesting that many, including you call the ALP a "union movement" well I would say the Liberal Party is a "bosses movement" controlled by lobbyists for big business, the Gina's, Twiggy's, AIG, Coal, etc (PS please get the spelling of the Australian Labor Party correct - www.alp.org.au)
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anyway . . . . . . . . back to USA 2020 Election
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