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In the news lately we see a lot about the South China Sea. I am not sure where the disagreement will 'end' but the movement of bombers 'to suppress US provocations' is a cause of concern.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1197697.shtml https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/s...05cabd3494a839 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKCN25B065 |
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It's significantly more than a 'disagreement' it's China trying to bully other SE Asian nations and exert power over them in a territorial take over of international waters.
This whole deterioration on the relationship between China and the West has real potential to start a war - 'disagreement' isn't an appropriate term to describe the scenario here. |
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yep Franco, They have been goading SK/Japan for years, more so the last 3-5yrs.
Abusing territorial water boundaries for reactions. It stinks, as much as it would cause pain/loss of life etc sooner or later someone needs to make a stand against them. You wouldn't pick this but USA/Japan/SK aliging to fight on the water vs China.
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Relocating bombers to the reef they illegally occupy is further deterioration of the situation in the region. I recall in another post, you Franco mentioned 'are we heading for war'; there is a steady increase in provocation here. Good there is a push back but seems like it will get bad and China won't simply walk away |
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We need war or regime change with China sooner rather than later.
Militarily China still can’t match the west but it’s catching up, fast. Another 10-15 years, they will be the dominant military super power. Once China has more than 1-2 modern carriers and can keep them at sea for extended times, that’s when stiff gets ugly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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The alliance of late is a positive but China with Russia would be a concern. I don't think it will take them 10 - 15, they develop and build 'things' fast. Last edited by Mr_G6ET; 17-08-2020 at 02:58 PM. Reason: stiff to stuff :) |
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Although carriers would improve their position, China is improving their defence against carriers with hypersonic weapons.
Good read here: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/bu...obsolete-37637 |
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Carrier battle groups aren’t about defence, there all offence. They provide the ability to project their force almost anywhere in the world in sufficient numbers to cause a real problem. Without them their fighters are reliant on in air refueling or using forward airbases. All of which makes them vulnerable. That’s one of the reasons they’re building the islands in the South China Sea, it extends their reach. |
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It’s taken them more than ten years so far, and as I understand they only have one carrier that’s their own build, and another which is actually an Australian ship converted, that was supposed to be scrapped. Happy to be corrected. The other point to remember is that America has been at war almost since it’s inception. There is no more battle hardened (or weary depending on your perspective) major country than them. You can guarantee whatever information we see in the public domain is a mere fraction of what they are working with, and no doubt they have their own versions of the Chinese weapons. China does not have the experience. It has numbers and tech. Time will tell which one matters most. |
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It needs to be remembered that China also like to make stuff up. Their capabilities are so far below what they try to talk up. They are all about making themselves look tough, but the realities are far different.
They claimed to have rail guns ready for shipborne testing, but the reality is one shot would melt/distort the barrels, so it's only good for one shot. The same issues the americans have not been able to solve in decades. If the americans haven't been able to solve that problem, who really believes the chinese could? They need someone else to do it first so they can steal the solution. |
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Good point(s), I didn't consider as much as I should the experience. Cant see the Australian built bit but you are correct. 2 on the way also.
A lot of other craft under construction ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...craft_carriers Last edited by Mr_G6ET; 17-08-2020 at 05:02 PM. Reason: added 'of other craft' |
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Yeah I could have been wrong on the Aussie connection, I’m sure I read it somewhere but certainly can’t find it now. |
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i'm curious what china's end game is... they have a trade surplus of over USD400bn. seems crazy to risk this. any war with the west will almost certainly decimate most of that.
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![]() There are a lot of charts on the Chinese GDP, can't pretend to understand them all but I did see one a while ago where the trends suggested that their GDP will exceed the U.S within 4 - 5 years (accelerated by Covid I suggest) |
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I was implying that U.S will go to China, therefore China's land based defences will play a part. Submarines play a big part, imagine all them planes in the air and cant go back to where they took off from
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It does seem the Chinese submarine fleet could be the great unknown.
Not much information in the public domain at all. Submarine warfare is the cat and mouse game of all time really. It only takes one ballistic missile equipped submarine to get in the right position to potentially end a country. |
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Don't forget that the chinese agression in the south china sea probably wouldn't have happened unless Russia and NK are willing to back China up. I don't think they would risk such aggression with the US and its allies without their own allies.
In saying that, don't forget also that Russia has satellite-killing robots in space and the US is heavily reliant upon satellites, but that will change once Elon Musk gets the ball rolling and starts deploying his satellite network. That will create redundancy sufficient enough for the US military to use Starlink as a backup. Quote:
https://www.space.com/28713-military...-dmsp-f13.html Note also that DMSP 5D-3 19 also failed, in a similar reported manner. https://space.skyrocket.de/doc_sdat/kosmos-2491.htm https://www.digitaltrends.com/news/d...lode-in-space/ What are they using in those things? Lithium iron cobalt cells? hell no. http://russianspaceweb.com/Cosmos-2499.html https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...sed-to-be-four https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...-we-know-about Quote:
Then you have kinetic weapons which can do as much damage as an asteroid hitting the earth. We haven't even begun to cover that yet in this post. https://taskandpurpose.com/gear-tech...t-kep-weaponry No radiation. Plenty of casualties. Plenty of damage. Thankfully its decades away. The biggest threats I see coming from Russia/China/NK are ground forces and space based EMP blasts and attacks on US Military communications infrastructure. So boats with soldiers on them and EMP blasts in space above our heads. Now if you'll excuse me I have shopping to do and Crackling Pork to cook. Last edited by gooseneck; 18-08-2020 at 02:06 PM. |
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Here, I'll say it again, the world needs to stop buying their ****e and watch their economy implode.
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I agree in principle but it would take around 4 years to get manufacturers outside of China to gear up and then we would need to pay more per item...cant see that happening. options are buy from India ![]() Vietnam...controlled by China ?? ??
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Good thing is others are talking about change. Most would agree, we cannot do without them from a manufacturing perspective but we need to do better at the T+C's |
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And here I am paying good dollarydoos for it. *Cancels order* Being slightly more helpful. I'm starting up a home micro-buisness and I"m very sure that plenty of others are too. In my case you don't need to go to Asia to buy Goldfish or mystery snails anymore, just buy them from me. Once I've started breeding 1,000 fish per month. 100% disease free, I actually put the time and effort into medicating them. The neat trick is getting the fish to you in time enough for them to survive being shipped and staying a week in an Auspost depot. Where would I be without medication? flatlined, I nearly lost a breeding pair this week and without buying Erthromycin in bulk a year ago I would've not had the medication to cure them. Turned out to be a combination of blueplanet multicure and erythromycin every day +100% WC that cured them of a nasty case of cottonmouth and the infection spread internally. Cottonmouth aka columnaris. I'm really screwed now though because I have one 50g container of Erythromycin left and the only place you can get it cheaply is from China/HK off eBay or the USA and you pay nearly $500 to get it from the USA. The US brands are Mardel Maracyn & API Erythromycin. https://apifishcare.com/product/e-m-erythromycin So if I get another outbreak I'll have to rely soley on the Blue Planet Multicure. As for the food I'm not 100% sure what the suppliers of Aqua One are but I sure hope that they don't import anything from overseas. As for feeding my snails I need a steady supply of powdered calcium, powdered purple sweet potato, Agar Agar (from India) and a few other ingredients to make Snail Jello (to feed snails, I don't eat snails) Last edited by gooseneck; 18-08-2020 at 06:40 PM. |
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I installed a UV Steriliser in my daughter’s aquarium about 7 years ago after a bout of white spot cleaned out all the fish, and there have been no infections since. They’re worth it.
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I don't think buying local fish food for your boggle eyed goldfish will save us.
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Whats with all the doom and gloom and agro? We are about to get cheap local wine soon!! And hopefully stop getting those bloody tiktok videos being forwarded.
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No. Ranks right up there with afl. |
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I did find some Aus fish food manufacturers: https://www.blackworms.com.au/Search...s.asp?Cat=1477 https://www.windsorfishhatchery.com....h-aussie-food/ https://www.woodvalefishandlilyfarm....cts/fish-food/ Quote:
![]() I can't afford that many UV sterilizers though (too many tanks) and nor would I want them as UV sterilizers are hit or miss on weather or not they will deal with a parasite or bacterial infection and that 7w or 13w per sterilizer adds up really quick. They will sterilize the water passing in to the UV filter but they won't deal with the parasites in the substrate or attached to the bottom of the tank or the parasites attached to the side of the fish. I also know someone with a massive UV sterilizer and it does nothing for the bacteria and parasites in his centralized system. I don't have a parasite problem anyway, aside from the Columnaris outbreak that came from a net which was placed in a quarantine tank I'm 100% disease free. And I've dealt with the net problem by setting up a bucket with some chlorine in it for the nets to soak and I've treated all of the affected tanks with Erythromycin/Multi-Cure. Last edited by gooseneck; 19-08-2020 at 10:29 AM. |
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They will probably fall into a war, because collectively they are too stupid to avoid it. And it will be a massacre. The USA and her allies will sink the entire Chinese "Navy" and bomb their infrastructure back to the stoneage.
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